LG 38" 24:10 (NOT 21:9) 3840x1600 Ultrawide impressions

Discussion in 'Displays' started by jfreund, Sep 12, 2018.

  1. jfreund

    jfreund Gawd

    Messages:
    891
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    Brief recap of prior post: I've been trying to find an upgrade for my triple 30" 2560x1600 monitor setup for months. What I really want won't exist for several years (if ever), but I think I found an acceptable compromise in a 38" LG ultrawide with 3840x1600 resolution. I bought the 38BC99-W (business version of 38UC99-W). It uses the same panel as the Dell and Acer 38" ultrawides. It's also the same panel as the newer LG 38WK95C-W, the difference being that the newer WK95 supports HDR. All the 38" ultrawides support Freesync (not Freesync 2.0) up to 75Hz.

    It's here and setup is complete.

    Here's the input section on the back.
    https://imgur.com/zCgLCgG

    Installed on monitor stand and connected.
    https://imgur.com/8A6QSev

    That's a wide window!
    https://imgur.com/GaAto72

    Portrait-landscape-portrait in Windows with 2 of the existing 30" screens.
    https://imgur.com/WkVqgxr

    PLP in MX Linux with Nvidia driver 390.
    https://imgur.com/5XRTGXH

    It's pretty much what I expected. I'd say backlight bleed from the IPS panel is minimal - I see a little bit in the upper right corner. Backlight bleed is definitely less than I notice with the Monoprice screens. Colors look great, and with the brightness set at 30 the screen is plenty bright without burning my retinas. Black levels can get very dark without washing out detail. A movie displayed in 21:9 has small (about 1/2" wide) black bars on the sides. I've already gotten used to the curve of the screen.
    https://imgur.com/y2WYzBB

    I'd read that the monitor would skip frames when set to 75Hz on an Nvidia card, and it does. I verified with the frameskip test on testufo.com.
    https://imgur.com/RAok6WP
    A properly displayed image without skipped frames will show contiguous white rectangles with gray coming in or out on the ends. The black rectangle breaking up the flow indicates a skipped frame.

    I'm looking forward to gaming on this.
    https://imgur.com/wzCdkLT

    LG's included Onscreen Control software lets you select preset templates to fit multiple windows on the ultrawide screen. There is an option to display 3 windows across the screen, which I was hoping to see.
    https://imgur.com/47KhC6i

    This monitor is a keeper for me. It definitely satisfies the urge to upgrade my displays and should last me 3+ years. I will miss having a remote control to switch inputs like the Monoprice monitors have. It's certainly less convenient to have to reach under the LG monitor for the tiny "joystick" to navigate menus to switch to my Linux system. Hopefully in the next year AMD will make a card that's faster than the 1080Ti and I can check out Freesync.
     
  2. sparks

    sparks 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    3,161
    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    they have a new card before christmas...of course we may never see one in the wild.
    Hope its a real upgrade they need it.
     
  3. Greyson

    Greyson n00bie

    Messages:
    11
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2012
    That pincushion effect looks really distracting, i'm guessing it's less noticeable in person?
     
  4. jfreund

    jfreund Gawd

    Messages:
    891
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    The phone camera definitely exaggerates the curve. Sitting in front of the monitor, it just blends in.

    I did wonder how a curved screen would look on my desk, but to me it's a non-issue.
     
  5. UnknownSouljer

    UnknownSouljer [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    5,581
    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2001
    I'm interested in the size and resolution as well as the fact that it checks a lot of the boxes (higher than 60Hz refresh, HDR, IPS, hopefully 95%+ P3), but I'm definitely not interested in having a curved display. I'll keep waiting for that perfect one to (never) appear.
     
  6. Aluminum

    Aluminum Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    495
    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Trialed one of the 38" Dells at work, the dual input side-by-side with nearly square screens is actually really good for certain workflows. Can do the same from the OS/program standpoint but some don't support this gracefully which makes the hardware option nice.

    Curves on personal monitors are usually great, seriously don't knock it before you try it. On TVs they usually don't make any sense, especially for whole room viewing.
     
    jfreund likes this.
  7. ors

    ors Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    135
    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2016
    That's actually the only thing where ultrawides shine as far as I am concerned. Everything else a 32" 4-5k 16:9 monitor is a better choice.

    How much does the curve help with the IPS glow?
     
    Last edited: Sep 14, 2018
  8. jfreund

    jfreund Gawd

    Messages:
    891
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    The curve definitely reduces IPS glow by providing less variation in viewing angle from the center of the screen to the edge.

    With side monitors, Windows doesn't "snap" a window to the left or right of the center screen - the window just moves to the other monitor. Having the Onscreen Control to easily arrange multiple windows on the ultrawide is very handy. When I saw the option to put 3 windows across the ultrawide I briefly considered ditching the other 2 monitors. Then I realized with a fullscreen game up, I still use the side screens. Outside of gaming, though, I see myself using those side monitors less already.
     
  9. sparks

    sparks 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    3,161
    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    hate going to lg site and looking at technical specifications. HDMI-yes Display Port-yes
    UH WHAT ARE THE SPECS....or do they put that on the very technical specifications page.

    nope its right there....hdmi 2.0 and displayport 1.2

    how do they get all that bandwidth thru there..oh not Freesync 2.0

    I am NOT saying this is a bad monitor but I am beginning to wonder why LG is using some weird things like new micro dot screens with old nvidia controllers ( I assume they are chasing a price point)
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2018
  10. DanNeely

    DanNeely 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    3,400
    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2005
    Does NVIdia have a newer version of the 4k60 controller that they could use, or is their only new gsync controller the 4k144 + HDR one that needs a cooling fan (and which uses an FPGA that's several times larger/more expensive than the old one).
     
  11. jfreund

    jfreund Gawd

    Messages:
    891
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2006
    The only Freesync 2.0 monitors I'm aware of are made by Samsung. I did find it odd that the only difference between the older and newer LG 38" monitors is HDR, but the newer monitors don't use Freesync 2.0 for Freesync + HDR.

    To reiterate from my prior thread, I haven't found HDR in Windows to be with a damn. I put Windows 10 1803 on a test box and connected it to my LG OLED TV, and all HDR does is crank up the brightness and make the desktop completely washed out. In Mankind Divided (the only HDR game I have), HDR made no difference. That's why I ordered the older, non-HDR version of the monitor.
     
  12. sparks

    sparks 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    3,161
    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Windows has never been about video. DX has been a joke ever since they discovered xbox money. You don't game on a pc.

    now its Microsoft's Ray Tracing API windows won't have it (working) until oct 15...and even then I bet they half ass it.
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2018
  13. x3sphere

    x3sphere 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    2,567
    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2007
    Yes, it's a great monitor. I've had one since release, almost 2 years now, been very happy with it. The 75 Hz is a very noticeable improvement over 60, enough that I didn't mind going from a 100 Hz monitor to this. For me the screen size is just perfect also, I find the 40" 16:9 monitors too tall and this is just the right height.

    In terms of color accuracy and blacklight bleed it's also the best monitor I've had in that regard. I was disappointed in a lot of the gaming oriented monitors, tried a few of the 27" 144-165Hz options and could not get one without tons of blacklight bleed or color issues.

    I find with Vega 64 I can drive most games to 60+ as long as I drop down some settings here and there. I don't care as much about maxing things out anymore these days. I'm sure AMD will have something else out when I do feel I need more performance.

    Still don't see anything worth upgrading to, I thought we would have seen an OLED monitor by now but there was only that (now discontinued) Dell one.
     
    jfreund likes this.