KWh charges, national survey?

wurmy

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i started folding again to do home heating and I looked at my electric bill and the breakdown of my KWh costs needs to take place when I'm sober.

Out of curiousity, what are members KWh costs aside from tacked on fees?

Since I live in Honolulu but don't have PV, my electric bill and weather affects my ability to fold. :(
 

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Welcome back to folding. There are also BOINC projects that you can also participate.

I live in SillyCon Belly and this is my electricity rate as of this year. I do have solar but limited capacity. If I run more than 2 rigs (CPU only), I'm barely break even but I do have more than 2 rigs and some GPUs lying around. BTW, what's your rate like?

We have crunchers in Texas and other states with much lower rates, something like $0.06 to $0.10 per KWhr, excluding any other fees, iirc.

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My electric co-op here in South Texas charges $0.09 per KWhr.
 
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Mine is $.06 but then there is the delivery fees which bring it closer to $.10. I'm in IL.
 
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wurmy

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Welcome back to folding. There are also BOINC projects that you can also participate.

I live in SillyCon Belly and this is my electricity rate as of this year. I do have solar but limited capacity. If I run more than 2 rigs (CPU only), I'm barely break even but I do have more than 2 rigs and some GPUs lying around. BTW, what's your rate like?

We have crunchers in Texas and other states with much lower rates, something like $0.06 to $0.10 per KWhr, excluding any other fees, iirc.

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Just using bill total/k2h, it's about 32 cents per kwh by eyeball. There are some surcharges but it's around there. Honolulu is all fuel oil (vs. coal).

For now, I'm fine with using my rig to provide home heat, but like the aussie team, I might drop out for a bit during the summer months.
 

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How well does solar fare in HI? I would assume pretty well. Probably well worth the investment.
 
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I'm in the DC area and I'm at 17 cents per KWh. I've also got about 9KW of PV panels on my roof which are covering all my household needs as well as about 1KW worth of computers that are running folding and / or boinc (rosetta). I was originally going to let my panels pay me for net metering until they had paid themselves off, but then along came covid and I decided that it would be better to take that excess energy to DC.

My systems are ancient, however, so now I'm looking at updating a bunch of stuff, as well as checking out just how much work I can do with Raspberry Pis - The rosetta benchmark page says that a Pi 4 4GB should come in about half the performance of my Core 2 Quad 9650, but only using 7W of power. If that's the case, I'm going to have to compare what 10 Pi 4s would generate vs something like a Ryzen 3700X.
 

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I have Coserv here on the north side of Dallas, TX. I have a time of use plan with a different rate during "peak hours". My rigs have the BOINC schedule setup to only run between 20:00 and 15:00. So they do run during the 6am - 8am time frame for part of the year at the peak rate but for the most part they only run during off peak times at the lower rate. The time of use plan this year has cost be $3 - $5 more per month from Nov - Apr now that I have been tracking but saves me $40 - $80 per month from May - Oct when that AC is running.

Peak Times: May - October = 3pm - 8pm and then November - April = 6am - 8pm & 3pm - 8pm
Rates: Peak = $0.150/kWh & Off-Peak =$0.057/kWh
 

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12 cents per KWh here in MN, 13 in the summer months.
Between my folding rigs and the Tesla, it usually costs me around $130 per month.
 
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mine is 6.1 cents per kWh up to 750 then 8.9 cents up to 2500kWh and i think 11 cents after that. due to us using hydro here cost is super regulated especially after avista sold out to a canadian company the city has rejected every attempt to raise prices. natural gas on the other hand is super expensive(relative to what i was use to paying in california) here.
 

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How well does solar fare in HI? I would assume pretty well. Probably well worth the investment.
Early PV adopters got Net Energy Metering where excess power from your panels were fed into the local grid and the utility would pay you back if your PV system exported to the local grid. The payback from the grid and changes to the tax benefits for installation costs have made it difficult to amortize the investment. Solar water heating is still a great plus, especially if you have to tanks.

Depending on how the financial numbers work out, I may start a PV project that includes a home Tesla pack.
 

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Early PV adopters got Net Energy Metering where excess power from your panels were fed into the local grid and the utility would pay you back if your PV system exported to the local grid. The payback from the grid and changes to the tax benefits for installation costs have made it difficult to amortize the investment. Solar water heating is still a great plus, especially if you have to tanks.

Depending on how the financial numbers work out, I may start a PV project that includes a home Tesla pack.
Interesting - net metering doesn’t apply to all solar installations in HI? Between the Federal and state tax rebates, net metering, solar energy credits, and not paying my power bills, my system will pay for itself surprisingly quickly.

We couldn’t justify the Tesla power packs though - they are quite expensive!
 
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Endgame, no that ended in 2015.
Also Hawaiian Electric is irritating.

The Island of Kauai has an energy coop and is the only island not controlled by that monopoly, and they have 55% renewable power.

Whereas HECO still buys power from a plant that burns coal, then has the gall to say that they want to raise our rates, in order to fund their own renewable energy initiative, along with blocking a lot of permits for solar installs for years.

We really should be burning more trash here, the way the Japanese do, and not fill up our growing landfill, since there isnt a lot of space to make another one.
 
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wurmy

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Interesting - net metering doesn’t apply to all solar installations in HI? Between the Federal and state tax rebates, net metering, solar energy credits, and not paying my power bills, my system will pay for itself surprisingly quickly.

We couldn’t justify the Tesla power packs though - they are quite expensive!

Early adopters got a better NEM rate, and depending on the density of your neighborhood, what you now get back on a new installation is pennies on the dollar or the local utility won't allow it(?). Some folks with large roofs maxed out the tax benefits by doing their final installation in stages and do AC+water+pHEV and just pay basic grid costs, i think < $20/mo.

Thanks for all the responses. For now, I'm just doing home heating but it's heartening to see some old names being active!

Take care y'all!
 

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Mine is free, because solar. So long as I keep everything under 8 kWh I'm generally good so long as there is sun at least every three days. I recommend everyone invest in solar if able, even a small offset is better than nothing.
 
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Early PV adopters got Net Energy Metering where excess power from your panels were fed into the local grid and the utility would pay you back if your PV system exported to the local grid. The payback from the grid and changes to the tax benefits for installation costs have made it difficult to amortize the investment. Solar water heating is still a great plus, especially if you have to tanks.

Depending on how the financial numbers work out, I may start a PV project that includes a home Tesla pack.
That isn't necessarily true and depends on local laws and rules. For instance, in some states, you have to specifically sign-up to be a power generation station in order to sell back power at the going rate, otherwise you give the power company your excess for a very minuscule fee. And setting up as a power generation station (not the permit to generate power, but something entirely different), is complex and expensive. So you have to check local laws.
 
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Mine is 12 cents per kWh (PECO). I'm in SE PA (Philly suburbs).
 
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Here in BC Canada there is a 22 cents per day nominal charge, then you get the first 22 KWh per day at around 9.3 cents per KWH and then anything over that is 14 cents / kwh
Yay for abundant Hydro electric power!
 
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wurmy

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That isn't necessarily true and depends on local laws and rules. For instance, in some states, you have to specifically sign-up to be a power generation station in order to sell back power at the going rate, otherwise you give the power company your excess for a very minuscule fee. And setting up as a power generation station (not the permit to generate power, but something entirely different), is complex and expensive. So you have to check local laws.

Yup, I was just speaking about the island of Oahu in Hawaii.
 

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Combined rate of $0.14 KWH. Its like .09 for the electric. .05 generation and distribution.

-No clue how much my folding rig runs. I know over the spring it didn't seem to be too much. From March to April. Rig in the sig.
-May shut down the rig until September again due to keep the bill in check. Talk is cheap LoL
-The A/Cs take most of the bill in the summer as normal.
-Noticed a drop in the bill when we ditched cable TV. The boxes were energy hogs. I want to say I dropped about $10-15 a month for the 2 boxes on the electric bill. I could tell due to how much heat they radiated.
 

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Combined rate of $0.085/Kwh (3 year term) ~ This was the cheapest I could get in a choose your own company area.
0.036/Kwh Delivery/distribution charge
0.049/Kwh Energy cost

- My two unraid/plex servers run 24/7 each with a dozen drives and single Xeon v3/supermicro boards use about 350w (this is idle non-folding) ~ about 250kwh/month
- Main gaming computer is about 90 Kwh/mo and stays on 24/7 too
- During the summers when temps are 95+ avg I use about 2,250-2,500Kwh per month, winter is about 1000-1250 (I do have a 2nd fridge in the hot garage)
- Single A/C unit with dual zones, 2700sq ft, and generally kept at 75F.

Edit: I messed up my calculations its alot less than that its 8.4778 cents/kWh total,. not just for the energy charge.
 
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I'm at 9.36c/Kwh, but they charge a freaking $30 monthly fee. So dumb. Omaha, NE here.

Our power could have been even cheaper, I feel. They shut down our nuclear power plant a few years back, and prices remained the same... Tells you something, doesn't it?

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Tulsa, OK it is $ 0.048 kW/h on-peak for the first 1,350 kWh and then $0.062 kW/H afterwards, off-peak season we are 0.043 kW/H worst case (Novemeber through to May)
 
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