Kryonaut grizzly paste 10c + higher whats wrong?? bait and switch ?

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  1. zoobaka

    zoobaka n00bie

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    ste-2000 v Kryonaut [amazon]
    over 10 c higher with grizzly paste.
    Ive cleaned and swapped back and forth pastes, a few times to verify.
    What is happening?



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  2. DTN107

    DTN107 [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm not trying to be a jerk today but do you honestly type like that?

    It wouldn't hurt to proof-read for a minute and post up thumbnail embedded links.
     
  3. doubletake

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    Did you buy it straight from Amazon or from a third party vendor? Kryonaut is top tier stuff, so getting terrible performance like that means that you either got an inexplicably bad batch from the factory (unlikely), or you got swindled by a seller who bought cheap-ass, garbage-tier paste in bulk and filled Kryonaut syringes with it to resell for a profit.
     
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  4. Ocellaris

    Ocellaris Ginger @le, an alcoholic's best friend.

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    You used too much paste. And you maybe got fake Thermal Grizzly.

    Aside from that there isn’t enough information here to diagnose anything.
     
  5. doubletake

    doubletake Limp Gawd

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    Definitely, but from my limited experience with it, that stuff conducts heat well enough that even a bad OEM-style application like that still wouldn't butcher thermal performance to like what OP's getting. Unless it's actually so much that OP's inadvertently failing to apply proper mount pressure on the cooler because of the huge gap left between the IHS and coldplate.
     
  6. zoobaka

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    If you look i used same amount residu on the ihs for both paste. i will try to get a replacement. must been swindled.
     
  7. guitarslingerchris

    guitarslingerchris Failure is just success rounded down

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    Definitely not this.
    Probably this.
     
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  8. Krenum

    Krenum [H]ardForum Junkie

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    First of all, you can't get bad temps by using too much paste, but yes you did use too much, it shouldn't be spilling over the sides of your Processor into the socket housing.

    Just buy some Noctual NT-H1 Paste or some IC Diamond & be done. Both IC Diamond & Noctua are very well established brands, for good reason. No need to buy the "exotic" stuff, it doesn't do a better job, but their marketing will tell you otherwise.

    Also, what are your real world temps?
     
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  9. zoobaka

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    so amazon will refund the money.. but i still have a fake grizzly mostly full crap paste..
     
  10. Ocellaris

    Ocellaris Ginger @le, an alcoholic's best friend.

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    Throw it out.
     
  11. Putz

    Putz I have a custom title

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    am i the only one who still uses AS5 in the giant ass 12g tube from like 5 years ago? couldn't count how many cpus and video cards ive used the same tube on and still half a tube left, all these new fancy ones don't see to be any better. all with margin of error

    while i dont think too much paste is causing you problem since excess gets pushed out, you have enough paste on that cpu for 6 applications :)
     
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  12. guitarslingerchris

    guitarslingerchris Failure is just success rounded down

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    Arctic Silver 5 is and likely will always be my paste of choice until we get a clearly better option.

    https://www.hwcooling.net/en/the-test-of-27-thermal-compounds-part-1-en/2/
     
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  13. Putz

    Putz I have a custom title

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    shoudlnt need 1.35v for that speed either, unless i got lucky

    1.3v 51x100 on mine but that voltage drop will dump alot of your heat
     
  14. zoobaka

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    Update:
    An Indian Guy after a few mins of chatting said he would process a refund 3-5 days.. I called 2 days later again and it was never processed. The new guy sounds Philippine[ always somebody with an accent and hard to understand] Said the same thing he will process a instant refund this takes 3-5 days to receive.
    But it will be refunded before I send the grizzly back to amazon. I guess Normally they need to receive the stuffs first.
    Im not holding my breath. I WILL NOLONGER use Amazon. I am also waiting for resolution if there is any to Blow up feedback to that company with all the juicy details.
     
  15. Ocellaris

    Ocellaris Ginger @le, an alcoholic's best friend.

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    So basically you didn’t look at who the seller was before buying the item and it’s Amazon’s fault? And apparently you dont know you can just request a refund online and get a RMA label sent to you?
     
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  18. zoobaka

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    amazons guy didnt do what he said he would do.. so yeah.
    the company 99% positive But they never returned my email about it either.
     
  19. rgMekanic

    rgMekanic [H]ard|News Staff Member

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    Definitely a bad/fake batch here. I'm running Hydronaut on my personal rig (ordered from Performance PCs) and it has been flawless.

    We use Prolimatech PK-3 on the [H] cooler test platform. It is some damn fine paste as well, albeit with a bit of a learning curve to get a good application.
     
  20. zoobaka

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    This stuff is what i used to get those lower temps in the pic

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  21. Gman1979

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    You used too much even if it's legit TG. On my 6600k, I got the best results with barely more than enough to cover the heat spreader in a "haze" of TIM. I could still read the info on the cpu through it.
     
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  22. zoobaka

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    it sqeeezes out . if you look at bothe die pics both same amount of paste maybe to much buut the cheap stuff like 15c cooler
     
  23. zoobaka

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    I got my money....chaching.. I never use amazon so the process was a bugger.
     
  24. Upgrayedd

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    I just put some on my GPU but noticed it isn't getting even mounting pressure at first and my temps were higher as well. I reapplied a few times and tried to push on the back of my card and finally got the temps to drop a few C for me, nothing extreme 2-3C, I blame mounting pressure really in my case though.
    It also does look like you used a bit too much. I also bought mine from amazon but may buy some more from a more PC centered source to actually test myself for counterfeit.
     
  25. zoobaka

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    well i tried again using d-15s and 82c was highest in prime 95. i just put sinth thermal elixer 2 from frys on [again] and guess what 68c so either fake or bad batch
     
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