Kaby Lake Mini ITX 4k HTPC

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  1. Nevalite

    Nevalite Limp Gawd

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    Hey everyone,

    Planning to make a Kaby Lake Mini ITX HTPC in January or whenever the desktop Kaby Lake i3 gets released. Looking to spend around $500 and the goal is to make this 4k @ 60Hz capable

    CPU: Intel Core i3 7100 (~120$ @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock ASRock Fatal1ty Gaming Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac ($144.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial 8GB ($44.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 550W G Series SSR-650RM ($64.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: SAMSUNG 250GB 960 EVO MZ-V6E250BW ($129.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Fractal Design FD-CA-CORE-500-BK 500 ($56.67 @ Amazon)
    Total: $561.63

    The ASRock mobo is currently the only Mini ITX mono which has HDMI 2.0 (uses the MegaChips MCDP2800 LSPCON) to convert DP to HDMI 2.0. If there is an H270 option with HDMI 2.0 released early next year I would switch to that board.

    Any thoughts/critiques of the build?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Zangmonkey

    Zangmonkey [H]ardness Supreme

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    When kaby launches you should also get 200 series chipsets shortly after, and HDMI 2 can be natively supported. Don't wait for kaby without waiting for Union point.
     
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    The mobo is good, but just like you said, it's a bit silly if you buy the Z170 with the 200 series just around the corner..
     
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    I am curious about the 200 series feature set. Looking into a mini itx board for an htpc in one of [H]ard forums custom made SFF chassis.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not sure if the Netflix 4k validation of Kaby Lake includes third-party HDMI 2.0 chips. I'd stick to native 200-series boards, which will make use of the native HDMI outputs provided by the onboard graphics.
     
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    This was one of my main concerns.

    I am just waiting for a Mini ITX H270 with HDMI 2.0 then I will be on my way!
     
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    The kaby NUCs are due soon and they will offer native HDMI 2.0

    We've deployed nearly 30 Skylake NUCs and they've been awesome.
     
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    This is probably the first release for Intel, where the chipset would have somewhat better enhancements than the actual CPU itself.

    In other words, kaby lake aka rebranded 6th gen. Literally all reviews points that out. So Intel's new 'tick-tock i.e. 'PAO, Kaby being the 'O': optimization improvements is bare none, except for a default higher boost clock, what am I missing?

    What a waste of good motherboards.
     
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    Sorry for being off-topic, but chx link says it all. After all that hype, surely am disappointed.

    You can always get a cheap i3 system in the market, not necessarily the latest 7th gen, since these last few haven't made a huge difference, and add a 1050 SC to it. Couldn't be better for an HTPC.
     
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    The i3 7350k is the big deal this generation -- as it's 60W and unlocked it'll be a great CPU for gaming when overclocked. As I posted elsewhere I would expect 5GHz out of them easily.
     
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    Yes it is only because of HT, and the fact that it's the bigger brother of the 3258. However, OC potential would depend on the chip.
     
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    Are you open to other cases? Just wondering since the Core 500 has a 5.25" optical drive bay, but I don't see an optical drive in your specs, which is kinda wasted space. Gonna plug the Cougar QBX here if you don't need the optical drive bay.
     
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    I don't think so.
     
  24. chx

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    Yes they do. They have been doing that in Skylake too.

    That's not an NCASE M1 knockoff. No way :p
     
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    Skylake definitely doesn't support hdmi2. None of the Skylake NUCs do.
     
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    So do we know if the NUC or the Asrock boards will have Playready 3.0? Trying to figure out if I will be able to play 4k Netflix content with this setup or not...
     
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    So it looks like none of the Mini ITX H270 boards which were released at CES have HDMI 2.0 :(

    Also for the Z270 boards looks like the Asrock Gaming ITX is again the only one to do it, probably with the same conversion chip as last time.

    I must say I am extremely disappointed with the 270 boards...not really sure what route to take. I am leaning towards simply getting a cheap H270, slapping in a GTX 1050 and being done with all this non-sense.
     
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    Why wouldn't you get a NUC?
     
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    That is the alternative, looking more and more like a good one at that. I like the idea that I could upgrade the HTPC in a build your own style setup but these new ITX boards flat out suck...

    Do we have any pricing estimate on the NUC7i3BNK / NUC7i3BNH?
     
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    I assume it will be in line with last gen Skylake. Consider the proportional price jump from i3 to i5 , then assume the same increase from i5 to i7.

    The base NUC units have been fantastic for me. For an HTPC you can't do much better.... Small, silent, cool, consumer IR header built in, HDMI2.... Thunderbolt, all Intel!

    Want to ungrade later? Everything but the CPU is easily transferable.

    I recommend them to anybody who isn't building a high end gaming rig.
     
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