Just a Reminder...

Discussion in '[H]ard|OCP Front Page News' started by Kyle_Bennett, Nov 16, 2018.

  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    HardOCP is almost 100% supported by ad revenue. When any of our editors write a review, ad revenue pays for them to do that. When we pay for hardware to review, ad revenue buys that. When we buy testing equipment, ad revenue pays for that. When you see an editor write a news post, ad revenue pays for that. When you view any of our pages on the web, ad revenue pays for that. When you use the HardForum, ad revenue pays for that. HardOCP has been my full time job for for 18 years and is one of the few 100% independent hardware sites left in the world that devotes all our content to enthusiast computer hardware for gaming. Ad revenue supports me and my family and allows me the ability to operate HardOCP and bring you 100% free content. All we ask in exchange is that you do not run an ad blocker. That's all we ask.

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  2. Aireoth

    Aireoth [H]ard|Gawd

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    The ads on this site are not intrusive, so do as the man says.
     
  3. katanaD

    katanaD [H]ard|Gawd

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    I am actually surprised you have been so relax on this. as someone who allows ads, and is a patreon, i fully support this site and the hard work done here!
     
  4. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Do you have metrics for what browsers are being used? Does the increase in ad blocking correlate with the numbers of certain browsers or versions of certain browsers?

    I do use an ad-blocker but have Hardocp.com whitelisted.
     
  5. TheHig

    TheHig Limp Gawd

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    Whitelisted on my phone since I do a ton of my [H] on mobile.

    Disable on the PC at home too.

    Keep doing what you do best guys! Your work is appreciated.
     
  6. ButtonPuncher

    ButtonPuncher [H]Lite

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    Thanks Kyle and [H] for all that you do.

    Today when I came to the site, it was almost black. I found that the Privacy Badger plugin was blocking your ads. I just disabled it for your site.

    I also run flashblock pro just because I have a white hot hatred of flash based ads. I routinely have a couple hundred tabs open and Flash can completely eat up all of the CPU.

    BP
     
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  7. Axehandler

    Axehandler Gawd

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    This is one of the few sites I've allowed to run ads on.

    NEVER seen a malicious Ad on here.
    And if I did.. I honestly believe KYLE Would yank it down in a instant!

    Axe
     
  8. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    What does it really matter? I really do not care to discuss the minutia behind it. I would like to stay focused on the topic.
     
  9. DogsofJune

    DogsofJune [H]ard|Gawd

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    I pay patreon, no adblock, lifetime subscriber. Dunno how to tell you I love you more....



    I need that IPA now.....
     
  10. Sicario

    Sicario [H]Lite

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    Unblocked. Thanks for the reminder.
     
  11. mcravenufo

    mcravenufo Ravenufo's Macs

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    I hope you see results after posting this news article. I would be interested in seeing them.
     
  12. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Because Chrome now has an ad-blocker built in. If certain browsers are blocking ads, the users of those browsers may have no idea.

    It seems highly suspicious that the ad-blocking increased so much in just a few days.
     
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  13. YeuEmMaiMai

    YeuEmMaiMai Death Incarnate

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    paid for life time, do not use ad blocker at all, does not mean I love you :p but I do find you entertaining and even handed :)
     
  14. TroubleMagnet

    TroubleMagnet Gawd

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    My ad blockers are dialed down for the main site, but not off completely.I see the ads on either side of the main page. Ad blocking is off for the forums, but privacy badger is still on. It's kind of an ad blocker but more focused on anti-tracking than blocking ads from being displayed.

    I'm also doing $3/mo on Patron so I assume that more than offsets the income I would have generated on the main site with no ad blocking.
     
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  15. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    HardOCP is a product. When you load our page, you are taking our product for free. No, you are not stealing it when you block our ads, because we freely give it away. We work with the honor system. Hey, we will give you all the HardOCP we can make, we just ask that you load our ads. Sound like a good deal? All we ask is that you work inside that honor system.
     
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  16. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Patreon was specifically set up for people that want to block ads. Patreon pulls in about $1100 a month now.


    HardOCP and HardForum users have been asking for a way to help offset our revenue losses due to ad blocking and many have specifically asked for us to set up a Patreon account, so here it is!
     
  17. GoodBoy

    GoodBoy [H]ard|Gawd

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    Guys make it look like this :)
     
  18. Darunion

    Darunion Chin Poon Specialist

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    Oops I had forgotten to whitelist here after my last install. All better now :)
     
  19. Armenius

    Armenius [H]ardForum Junkie

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    People who are not regulars and don't visit our forums. A lot of reviews for high-profile releases went up in the past couple weeks.
     
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  20. DrBorg

    DrBorg Gawd

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    I have this site whitelisted in Adblock, but noscript I can't disable just for this site; settings follow everywhere.

    Which scripts are the ads, and I'll try. :)
     
  21. Everlast

    Everlast n00bie

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    Crap, this was me! I had Ublock on my work PC without turning off for [H]. I'm sorry. Issue fixed. Love, [H] and am happy to get ads here knowing that it supports you!
     
  22. mjz_5

    mjz_5 2[H]4U

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    Agreed

    I never use an ad blocker
     
  23. phatbx133

    phatbx133 Gawd

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    Thanks for the reminder, It's done.
     
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  24. 1_rick

    1_rick Limp Gawd

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    I have Ublock set to whitelist this site but for some reason the ads still don't show. (Oh, wait, they don't show only in FF--they do in Edge. FF recently started blocking trackers. You can disable it by clicking on the information icon in the address bar.)
     
  25. Krenum

    Krenum [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Does using Mozilla Firefox block ads for Hardforum?
     
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  26. sean.b

    sean.b Limp Gawd

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    Unblocked just now, but wont lie.. if you'd offer a $10/year subscription, I'd rather do that.
     
  27. mkk

    mkk n00bie

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    I'm a low end patron, but if the mobile browser that I use could whitelist then I would do that as well. I began chipping in at Patreon for the journalism after all.
     
  28. WayneJetSki

    WayneJetSki n00bie

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    I do not use a separate add blocker extension but I am using the latest version of Firefox 63.0.3 and by default it was blocking all of the adds with the "Content Blocking" shield. I have turned that off.... sorry about that.
     
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  29. Messy

    Messy Limp Gawd

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    i hate to be dense, but where is the Patreon link. i let first party domains run scripts, so if ads are served from there i should see them. YOU are whitelisted, but...
     
  30. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

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    At work, in both Chrome and IE, only the ads in the middle and on the top show up... no ad blocker installed.

    And in Edge, almost no ads show up.. again, no ad blocker installed.

    Even tried with our completely open guest wireless and the same thing is happening. The only difference is that Edge now loads the same ads that IE and Chrome are loading.

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  31. PeaKr

    PeaKr Gawd

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    I'll probably be scorned till the end of eternity for this but can you please setup some crypto donation addresses. I like to donate LTC or BCH. I need to figure out some kind of whitelist for my pi-hole, not sure it can even be done.
     
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  32. kju1

    kju1 2[H]4U

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    Default settings maybe? I have noticed that sometimes the ads just do not load on my work PC (where 75% of my [H] time is done). See screenshot below for a good example. This browser has no ad blocker installed (dont ask why work wont install them...Ive tried).

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    Looks like a CORS issue: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/CORS

    My home PC has this site whitelisted...
     
  33. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    I absolutely hate ads of all kinds. I still want to support the site though, which is why I am a Patreon donor.

    I have no visibility as to what level of patreon donation can help make up for not viewing ads. Any suggestions here?

    I guess I just have no idea what value the ads hitting my eyeballs actually have.

    (it should be close to zero, if not negative, IMHO, because seeing ads for a brand just pisses me off, and makes me less likely to buy their products)
     
  34. Setiri

    Setiri n00bie

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    Kyle, thanks for the reminder! I've been reading this site for over a decade and honestly the ads have never bothered me as they're non-intrusive to the content.

    Just a quick heads-up, I use uBlock Origin as I'm sure many do and I've turned it off on your site in the past. Which is what confused me when I saw the reminder you posted and realized there were no ad's on either side of the page. I think somehow it recently got auto-enabled during a windows update or something, but I know I didn't specifically turn it back on. Perhaps that's partially to blame for the recent drop? Either way, feel free to post a reminder like once a month or so... it's perfectly valid for such a well designed news site that's independent and thorough. Keep up the great work.
     
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  35. aduljr

    aduljr n00bie

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    That would be something I bet more than a few would buy, [H]ard IPA.
     
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  36. Betaboy1983

    Betaboy1983 [H]ard|Gawd

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    No worries!
    It used to be that my morning routine was HardOCP, Shugashack (later Shacknews and it's not the same place that it used to be) and Bluesnews is still legit. Now my routine is HardOCP and coffee. If [H] went down, I'd be pissed!
    I fell out of Bluesnews awhile back.. too damn busy! - I do pop by from time to time though.
     
  37. Nolan7689

    Nolan7689 Gawd

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    I almost exclusively browse on my phone and don’t have an ad blocker. So I see them on the main page, but the mobile version of the forums doesn’t appear to have ad space. Not sure how that affects the metrics.
     
  38. NickJames

    NickJames Viagra Required

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    Damn it's gotten that bad? I know my office has a built in adblocker for security reasons but I still get the safe ones like Mulland etc.. I'll have to throw some extra cash into patreon.
     
  39. cyclone3d

    cyclone3d [H]ardForum Junkie

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    At home.. just checked:
    IE, Edge, Chrome, Firefox.

    No ad blocking set up... still not getting any ads on either side.
     
  40. DooLocsta

    DooLocsta [H]ard|Gawd

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