DejaWiz
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People also need to chill the fuck out , playing CyberPunk on a 2XXX card will still be pretty great.
You could always get a 2060/2070 at a decent price, and with holiday return season coming up, aren't even tied to keep it...Not all of us have a 2xxx card.
it's not about the demand, it's about the bots buying up all the cards...there has to be a way of stopping this...
If there's no demand, there's no market for bots and scalpers.
I scored a Hybrid 2080 for $300, I think I’ll be good for a while. You can probably still enjoy Cyberpunk with a 1080 though. Worst case you can come back later with a new card for a second play through and enjoy more eye candy then.Not all of us have a 2xxx card. If I can pick up a card by November that would be ideal, but who knows at this point.
That's a good deal. If I can get an in warranty 2080 ti for 500 or less I'll probably buy that again instead (still glad to be rid of the out of warranty Zotac for 7xx).I scored a Hybrid 2080 for $300, I think I’ll be good for a while. You can probably still enjoy Cyberpunk with a 1080 though. Worst case you can come back later with a new card for a second play through and enjoy more eye candy then.
it's not about the demand, it's about the bots buying up all the cards...there has to be a way of stopping this...
Not sure I understand that logic, what do you think the bot do with those card, keep them in stock waiting for price to rise ? Maybe, but I suspect they are trying and reselling them as fast as possible and they will stop the moment it get even just a little bit hard to resell them with a decent margin, having nearly 0 impact in the quantity going into people hands.
Undoubtedly the fewest cards in inventory at a launch in at least a decade that was not a literal paper launch. I think there have been less than 10K cards sold in North America to date.They don't want to sell you cheap cards. They want to sell you expensive 20 GB ones and they aren't ready yet.
They don't want to sell you cheap cards. They want to sell you expensive 20 GB ones and they aren't ready yet.
I think they are counting on $900 to $1000 20GB cards to be largely sold so that they can make bigger margins, as expected by their shareholders, on all those ASICs.Smells a lot like the wafer yields are way below what they expected but said ef it, we'll launch anyway...
Great chance for AMD here. If they have a competitive product and can meet demand a lot of people will buy. Even I would now that I have a Freesync monitor. Excellent opportunity.
Might have more ASICs lined up for Q4 than you think.AMD can't meet the demand. There's no doubt about this. They have to supply their CPU/APU/Console stuff before they supply GPUs. If NV really failed then everyone is going to be sucking it up for GPUs this year.
I remember back in the early 2000s having less than 50,000 units at launch was considered a paper launch. To say the Ampere launch is "not a paper launch" when at best there are low 4 digits in the wild after 2 and half weeks..."not a supply issue" is an excessively generous diagnosis.
Might have more ASICs lined up for Q4 than you think.
That is not what you said above. You seemed to be speaking from a standpoint of having actual knowledge.Dunno. Let's see how it goes. I hope they do. Would give NV a kick in the nads and make them start to care again.
I think they're have been less than possibly 8000 sold in NA, but 10K is a much safer number. So he is not to far of from the truth.No one of any repute is saying low 4 digits in the wild.
Nah, just saying they have a number of wafers that have to go to many products. Just making a guess that GPUs aren't as important as their cash cows at the moment.That is not what you said above. You seemed to be speaking from a standpoint of having actual knowledge.
I would suggest your guess is misplaced.Nah, just saying they have a number of wafers that have to go to many products. Just making a guess that GPUs aren't as important as their cash cows at the moment.
I would suggest your guess is misplaced.
So if you can only buy a $1000 20GB 3080, where does it need to fall then?I'm good with that. I don't own AMD or NV stock. As long as I get my GPU power I'm all good. If AMD gives me something better than the 3080 I have coming in then I'll jump on that.
So if you can only buy a $1000 20GB 3080, where does it need to fall then?
Nice way to dodge the actual question.I'm not worried about VRAM. I think 10GB will do well for me until next gen since I game at 3440x1440. If they can deliver 3090 performance at $1000 then I'd upgrade.
Nice way to dodge the actual question.