Japanese Man Marries a Hologram

Time for me to re-read William Gibson's Idoru. Scary how prescient a lot of his work was.
 
Oldmodder said:
I am 52 and to be honest i would prefer a girl in the mid - late 20ties, if that make me a kinky old bastard so be it.
And to be even more honest my brain still think it is in the mid 20ties, though some times my aching bones and joints do make it think otherwise, but just for a few minutes then it revert back to its "normal " age.
But i will have to pass on a boot-able or inflatable girlfriend :ROFLMAO:

I miss the adrenaline / dopamine rushes of stunting my quad bike 8 years ago, gotta win me some lotto money and get a house & motorcycle this time and get stunting,,,,,, i bet most +50 YO people don't think like that.
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Name checks out.

Heh. I figure I grew up until I was about 27. Then ...I'm still 27. With the scars of someone a bit older.

Young people. I mean, to be totally honest - real talk here - I don't understand the older fellows that prefer young (like, early 20s) women. What do you have to talk about? They haven't ...lived... Yet.

Not the assertion you made, I know. Just commenting.
 
Laowai said:
Keep China in check?
You mean like...preventing them from claiming rocks in the sea as Chinese territory and building islands and military infrastructure on them and claiming all natural resources?
I guess we've been asleep at the wheel.
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It could be worse.
In fact, I read some news articles about how some USA ex-military officials claim a real possibility of a showdown happening within 15years
 
Hehe i know, would probably have to be one wise of her age.
Then on the other hand, me trying to discuss / talk about pretty much anything with people of my own age or even a lot younger too, well that's no success at all as i am rarely on the same page as most Danes seem to be on.
Besides when i tell about my experiences, not least all of my wrong decisions i have made, people tend to be a bit apprehensive or scared of my honesty,,,,,,, but you have to be really messed up to lie about how big a idiot you have been, and i am just regular messed up.
 
Oldmodder said:
I am 52 and to be honest i would prefer a girl in the mid - late 20ties, if that make me a kinky old bastard so be it.
And to be even more honest my brain still think it is in the mid 20ties, though some times my aching bones and joints do make it think otherwise, but just for a few minutes then it revert back to its "normal " age.
But i will have to pass on a boot-able or inflatable girlfriend :ROFLMAO:

I miss the adrenaline / dopamine rushes of stunting my quad bike 8 years ago, gotta win me some lotto money and get a house & motorcycle this time and get stunting,,,,,, i bet most +50 YO people don't think like that.

EDIT: with my 6 foot 3 i had no problems seeing out ahead on the busy Japanese streets.

Funny: i don't like to be around 50 or more Danes, but in any other country i have no issue at all being within stone throw distance of a million people.
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Don't wait to win the lottery to do what you enjoy. Life is short. Tomorrow never comes and yesterday is too late.
 
collegeboy69us said:
As a 6'1 "big american" I always though it would be fun to go to Japan
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don't expect to be a novelty unless you go to a village an hour away from big cities... not sure about japan but in thailand/vietnam many girls don't like big guys, it's more about the color of your skin or status or "westerners are more gentle/romantic than these rude asian guys"
 
This is something that shouldn't be taken lightly.

May be just a matter of time before his pedophiliac tendencies get the best of him and he decides underage girl cartoon character holograms and pillow friction burns just aren't satiating his mental illness any more...
 
Joust said:
Name checks out.

Heh. I figure I grew up until I was about 27. Then ...I'm still 27. With the scars of someone a bit older.

Young people. I mean, to be totally honest - real talk here - I don't understand the older fellows that prefer young (like, early 20s) women. What do you have to talk about? They haven't ...lived... Yet.

Not the assertion you made, I know. Just commenting.
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YMMV with any human being who has "lived". Better off finding someone who knows how to live, and some folks are born with the talent. I think Japan is just a little ahead of the curve on a problem most first world nations have, in that social interaction is evolving in a way that isn't natural or healthy.
 
DejaWiz said:
May be just a matter of time before his pedophiliac tendencies get the best of him
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^ isn't that kinda like saying shooting people in video games is cause for concern because eventually they'll wanna shoot people in real life?

don't you think acting out fantasies in a non-harming way can help relieve the desire to do so in real life?

...and if dude doesn't want a real GF or marriage/babies (which is fine IMO, we don't all have to adhere to those goals), what's wrong with him taking on certain aspects of that if that's what fulfills him?
 
DejaWiz said:
This is something that shouldn't be taken lightly.

May be just a matter of time before his pedophiliac tendencies get the best of him and he decides underage girl cartoon character holograms and pillow friction burns just aren't satiating his mental illness any more...
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This is the same braindead shenanigans that news outlets use.

"This school shooter played a lot of violent shooter games, ergo shooter games are bad"
Yeah, well how about the billions of other people who play violent shooter games and don't shoot up their school?
 
MrDeaf said:
This is the same braindead shenanigans that news outlets use.

"This school shooter played a lot of violent shooter games, ergo shooter games are bad"
Yeah, well how about the billions of other people who play violent shooter games and don't shoot up their school?
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I guess squirt gun fights as kids is probably out too then huh? You really could link almost any activity to a violent activity if you do enough mental gymnastics to get there.

IMO we shouldn't be attacking someone that isn't harming anyone. Once we go down that road, it would be like you said with video games and we could go for music, movies, art, books etc.

If he wants to marry a hologram, good for him. Probably last longer than a bunch of the failed marriages ive seen among friends where they married fellow humans lol.
 
As long as there are no children that were harmed, i don't care what he faps with. I couldnt care less about anime girl's rights. Protection laws are there to protect.
 
Damn.. that crazy bastard did it! Krieger-san got his wish!

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Darunion said:
Life is short
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By the day. :( i swear after i passed 30 it seem like time got cut in half if not more, in retro perspective the past 25 years feel line the 9.5 years of school that back then felt like forever.

I also do, but really being on early retirement even in the worlds best little country, well that don't leave room for much.
I will have to save hard until i am 60 to be able to buy a suitable Motard or street bike to stunt, and pray nothing unexpected happen as that would just push things even further back.
My new computer are also largely build with the banks money :oops:

Some times i talk with my 1 year older friend and go "remember 7 years ago when we did so and so" only to realize those 7 years ago are more like 20 years ago. :wtf:
 
Youn said:
^ isn't that kinda like saying shooting people in video games is cause for concern because eventually they'll wanna shoot people in real life?

don't you think acting out fantasies in a non-harming way can help relieve the desire to do so in real life?

...and if dude doesn't want a real GF or marriage/babies (which is fine IMO, we don't all have to adhere to those goals), what's wrong with him taking on certain aspects of that if that's what fulfills him?
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MrDeaf said:
This is the same braindead shenanigans that news outlets use.

"This school shooter played a lot of violent shooter games, ergo shooter games are bad"
Yeah, well how about the billions of other people who play violent shooter games and don't shoot up their school?
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Did you both purposely skip over the "mental illness" part of my comment, in order to spew out a false dichotomy?

Mass shooters suffer from some sort of mental illness, same as pedophiles...whether they are inflicting their damaging desires upon cartoon characters or other human beings.

The fact that mass shootings are not carried out by a much, much larger percentage of the almost 8 billion humans on Earth, tells us that video games are not the cause, since there are predominantly more video gamers than those with access/ownership to firearms.

The fact that this grown man purposely sought out to purchase a hologram and pillows of a 16 YEAR OLD CHILD AND WILLINGLY MARRIED IT should be evidence enough that he suffers from a mental illness.

FFS...
 
But it *can* cheat, lie, and die. In fact, a lot easier than a person could.

The grin on his face tells another story.
 
DejaWiz said:
Did you both purposely skip over the "mental illness" part of my comment, in order to spew out a false dichotomy?
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I was merely asking you questions, ya know, so to understand your viewpoint more...

so how much different is this compared to people who collect video games and build a room in their basement, posting posters and statues of their idols, and basically live life happily there, basking in the fantasies of heroism or whatever, not enjoying life much outside of that?

again, I'm genuinely interested where you draw the line. not saying you are wrong or that I disagree with you in general or anything... I'm very concerned about mental illness too, but just wanna be careful to label folks with that based on one person's vice, especially as I'm not a clinical psychologist
 
I'm not going to argue the arbitrary numbers we apply to age of consent and age differences and what is creepy or not. That's all going to vary from person to person. There's no right number.

It's not a system that gives equal power to the female as the male. That's all the discussion needs to be when it comes to real humans.

As far as relationships with non-humans. there are certain things in human behavior you can't legislate out of existing. If we're making laws because we're afraid of a slippery slope (which is the case for non-human depictions of what would otherwise be children), then we should be aware that we're not actually addressing that slippery slope by having that law. We're just making a different slope that's even more slippery because now everything related to that person's desires is illegal. So step 1 puts them in the same boat they'd be in if they took step 3. That's a bad slippery slope. Society would have been better off if #1 was legal because it didn't involve actual humans, while step 3 could till be illegal because it does. Then the slippery slope is far less slippery since the person has at least step 1 to resort to while the cost of going further is much higher.
 
DejaWiz said:
Did you both purposely skip over the "mental illness" part of my comment, in order to spew out a false dichotomy?

Mass shooters suffer from some sort of mental illness, same as pedophiles...whether they are inflicting their damaging desires upon cartoon characters or other human beings.

The fact that mass shootings are not carried out by a much, much larger percentage of the almost 8 billion humans on Earth, tells us that video games are not the cause, since there are predominantly more video gamers than those with access/ownership to firearms.

The fact that this grown man purposely sought out to purchase a hologram and pillows of a 16 YEAR OLD CHILD AND WILLINGLY MARRIED IT should be evidence enough that he suffers from a mental illness.

FFS...
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It actually doesn't though. In japan 16 year old women are legally allowed to marry and I believe do not require parent permission. You are imposing your own beliefs onto someone else and holding them to a different set of rules to say he has a mental illness. That type of assessment usually requires a doctor evaluation, not reading an article that someone wrote about someone else.

I don't really think of an 18 year old woman to be an adult at this point in my life either, she still seems like a child. But I live where society and laws state that 18 year old 'women' are considered an adult and can marry. The same thing is in japan, except society and laws puts that age at 16.

Not sure where I remember seeing it but there was a country or two that put the age of marriage at 19 and 20. So from their standpoint it could stand to reason that american men marrying 18 year old women, are pedophiles in that country's eyes.

We really can't just go after people that have a habit or fantasy that the mass think is wrong and treat them as if they are about to commit a crime. Ever watch porn? Thought about having sex with that woman? She never gave you consent to do so, so maybe you are on the edge of rape because you fantasize about
women who have never given you consent.

I love the oceans movies, should I be put in for therapy because I fantasize about being a master criminal when the most I would actually do is round down on my internet purchases? lol

EDIT: looks like anyone under 20 needs parent permission.
 
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MrDeaf said:
Most of Japan's social problems are related to absolutely awful income of the younger working generation (20'~30's).
They have no money for domestic vacations, let alone money for children.
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Sounds like the problems millennial are facing in the US as well.
 
Darunion said:
It actually doesn't though. In japan 16 year old women are legally allowed to marry and I believe do not require parent permission. You are imposing your own beliefs onto someone else and holding them to a different set of rules to say he has a mental illness. That type of assessment usually requires a doctor evaluation, not reading an article that someone wrote about someone else.

I don't really think of an 18 year old woman to be an adult at this point in my life either, she still seems like a child. But I live where society and laws state that 18 year old 'women' are considered an adult and can marry. The same thing is in japan, except society and laws puts that age at 16.

Not sure where I remember seeing it but there was a country or two that put the age of marriage at 19 and 20. So from their standpoint it could stand to reason that american men marrying 18 year old women, are pedophiles in that country's eyes.

We really can't just go after people that have a habit or fantasy that the mass think is wrong and treat them as if they are about to commit a crime. Ever watch porn? Thought about having sex with that woman? She never gave you consent to do so, so maybe you are on the edge of rape because you fantasize about
women who have never given you consent.

I love the oceans movies, should I be put in for therapy because I fantasize about being a master criminal when the most I would actually do is round down on my internet purchases? lol

EDIT: looks like anyone under 20 needs parent permission.
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More false dichotomies.

Fantasizing *in your brain* about knocking off a casino vault or screwing a porn star is not the same thing as possessing a physical cartoon character object of a 16 year old child - and marrying it!
 
Don't forget guys, personal attacks against this guy (for being a pedophile / weird / etc ) are unwarranted. He's not raping underaged girls and hasn't broken any laws, so let him be. Degrading someone based on your personal beliefs (instead of actual facts), just makes you an SJW. And no intelligent person wants to be a SJW :)

How his situation relates to the overall problem of people not having kids in Japan is a little more interesting, though is still not his fault. A similar thing is happening in the U.S. Hard-working intelligent individuals simply don't have as many kids these days. The problem will eventually solve itself, although there will be some societal changes that go along with it (along with a population reduction in places like Japan).
 
Kogan said:
Don't forget guys, personal attacks against this guy (for being a pedophile / weird / etc ) are unwarranted. He's not raping underaged girls and hasn't broken any laws, so let him be. Degrading someone based on your personal beliefs (instead of actual facts), just makes you an SJW. And no intelligent person wants to be a SJW :)

How his situation relates to the overall problem of people not having kids in Japan is a little more interesting, though is still not his fault. A similar thing is happening in the U.S. Hard-working intelligent individuals simply don't have as many kids these days. The problem will eventually solve itself, although there will be some societal changes that go along with it (along with a population reduction in places like Japan).
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From my point of view: anyone defending this guy's actions of marrying and having a physical relationship with an underage girl hologram (and pillows) is a SJW.
 
DejaWiz said:
More false dichotomies.

Fantasizing *in your brain* about knocking off a casino vault or screwing a porn star is not the same thing as possessing a physical cartoon character object of a 16 year old child - and marrying it!
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So please enlighten us where YOU draw the lines in fantasies that make one okay and the other require doctor help. You are right it isn't the same thing, but i don't see the issue here that he should need a doctor. He doesn't appear to be dangerous. Or we just don't agree on this and that is fine as well. But please back yourself up instead of just saying people are wrong and attacking an opposing opinion.
 
As AI systems become more robust and sensors shrink, the ability to have a "personal assistant" that is more in tune with us that an external person ever can be is not far fetched. Shit..it might actually be possibly to tell the difference when your spouse says "i'm fine" or "i'm fine". =P
 
Darunion said:
So please enlighten us where YOU draw the lines in fantasies that make one okay and the other require doctor help. You are right it isn't the same thing, but i don't see the issue here that he should need a doctor. He doesn't appear to be dangerous. Or we just don't agree on this and that is fine as well. But please back yourself up instead of just saying people are wrong and attacking an opposing opinion.
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So, we're all supposed to rally for social justice towards anyone wanting to enter into marriage with PHYSICAL OBJECTS by saying "Oh, it's normal for this particular person. Pay no attention to it"? Especially those that wish to marry (and do other things with) effigies of children? C'mon, now...
 
DejaWiz said:
From my point of view: anyone defending this guy's actions of marrying and having a physical relationship with an underage girl hologram (and pillows) is a SJW.
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So, we have a standoff - where SJW is being pointed in BOTH directions of the same argument.
 
Joust said:
So, we have a standoff - where SJW is being pointed in BOTH directions of the same argument.
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The question now becomes: Will defenders of this guy come to realize that engaging in a relationship with children and/or physical objects is NOT normal human behavior, even down to a primal/instinctual level?
 
oh, I think most here would agree it's not normal, the issue is at which point does abnormal behavior become an issue worth condemning people on

but maybe you were one of those old guys back in the 80s that feared the nerd phenomenon... the worst to come of that was maybe the downfall of the star wars franchise

and yea, we agree pedophilia is bad...

but our definitions of what that is exactly might be slightly different
 
DejaWiz said:
So, we're all supposed to rally for social justice towards anyone wanting to enter into marriage with PHYSICAL OBJECTS by saying "Oh, it's normal for this particular person. Pay no attention to it"? Especially those that wish to marry (and do other things with) effigies of children? C'mon, now...
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No of course not, but trying to help you think beyond binary of good or bad. You are creeping on wanting to act against people for thoughts. It isn't social justice, stop using the name calling routine to try to assert you are right and everyone else that doesn't agree with you is wrong.

I can start to understand how one could go down this road though. Look how fast society is wanting to lock someone up or commit them to having mental disorders.


Maybe people marrying dolls will cut down on divorces and abusive marriages?

Also he didn't actually marry it. Live action role play at best
 
I do not really see an issue with this, I mean the man is happy... Maybe people should stop pushing their beliefs on others and/or trying to make it out like it really is going to impact the way you live your life. But what would I expect from people who barely travel or are only able to view a country/culture from a single external view.

Also on the grounds that he is moving on to real children next, yeah... Most of us would have stomped every turtle out of existence by now, or all be violent shooters across the world, hell maybe all the bronies would have successfully impregnated a pony by now.

Also all the time and effort to save the 3 year old electronic device/16 year old holo image from the 50 year old could be directed towards I don't know... stopping assaults against real children?
 
DejaWiz said:
The question now becomes: Will defenders of this guy come to realize that engaging in a relationship with children and/or physical objects is NOT normal human behavior, even down to a primal/instinctual level?
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Actually, if you want to bring normal human behavior into consideration...
In older times, it was perfectly normal human behavior for women to marry at 12 to 15yrs of age.
The catch was, the average peasant in that time only live to about 25~30 years of age, so they are marrying at half their life expectancy.
Royalty lived considerably longer, because better nutrition.

Now that life expectancy is longer, more or less, if we lived according to those same standards, women shouldn't even be touched by 30yrs of age, let alone marriage until 45.
 
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