IVY-E!!

fcuk

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I'll wait till it's out and tested before passing judgement, but will blame AMD if it's nothing special. Maybe if Intel felt like they had competition, they would give us something to get excited about.
 

Shogon

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Wouldn't mind having proper PCI Express 3.0 on my RE-IV, kind of annoyed I need to use a registry hack.
 

R3MF

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i did hear a rumour that ivy-e would arrive with a revised chipset which i imagine would address the issue, does anyone reckon there's any truth in it?
 

drescherjm

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I'll wait till it's out and tested before passing judgement, but will blame AMD if it's nothing special. Maybe if Intel felt like they had competition, they would give us something to get excited about.

I am getting worried that the 3 billion dollar investment in 22nm tri gate has turned out to be great for low power however not good at all for increasing performance. So far it looks like the 22nm transistors are only a little better than the 32nm they replaced in terms of performance.
 

ccityinstaller

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I am getting worried that the 3 billion dollar investment in 22nm tri gate has turned out to be great for low power however not good at all for increasing performance. So far it looks like the 22nm transistors are only a little better than the 32nm they replaced in terms of performance.

Honestly, I agree with you..What I can't figure out is how Intel took a step backward with Haswell in terms of clock speed...Ivy was the first 22nm, and it clocks wonderfully, some at insanely low voltages (see my oc in sig) ala the i7 920 D0s...

Haswell comes along, and is supposed to be a refinement of the 22nm process..Yes they did a slight IPC bump, but honestly that is offset by the fact that they don't clock for shit on a whole..

Sure there are golden ones out there as always, but even those require an insane amount of voltage to get there..It's almost as if Haswell and Ivy should be flip-flopped, with Ivy being the refined, higher clocking samples...

I honestly think the problem was the move of the FIVR on package..Sure it was a good idea for a mobile/power perspective, but just crushed our dreams of solid 5Ghz+ daily o/c's without extreme cooling..
 

Pinski

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i did hear a rumour that ivy-e would arrive with a revised chipset which i imagine would address the issue, does anyone reckon there's any truth in it?

The issue is that SB-E doesn't officially support PCI-E 3.0, which is why they force you to use the registry hack. IB-E fixes that by adding full official support for it.
 

octoberasian

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i did hear a rumour that ivy-e would arrive with a revised chipset which i imagine would address the issue, does anyone reckon there's any truth in it?

Yeah, supposedly there will be a revision of the current X79 chipset to support PCI-E 3.0, more SATA and more native USB 3.0 ports. Unfortunately, it's nothing but rumors at the moment.

Current boards should be compatible once manufacturers release BIOS updates but if my experience with AMD boards are the same, some boards will not get updated BIOS software from their manufacturers unless they're relatively new within the last year.
 

Boggins

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Yeah, supposedly there will be a revision of the current X79 chipset to support PCI-E 3.0, more SATA and more native USB 3.0 ports. Unfortunately, it's nothing but rumors at the moment.

That is way more features than I would expect from Intel. X79 already had disappointing features when it was released 2 years ago. I'd be very surprised if a revised chipset will pack in all those rumours.
 

aphexcoil

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There doesn't seem to be much overlap between the enthusiast sector and the server sector. If you want 8 cores, you go XEON and spend $1,000 on a CPU, $400 on a motherboard, $$$ for ECC RAM, etc. In fact, it makes no sense to spend all that additional money for two more cores. If you're going to go that route, you might as well spend the extra cash for a dual CPU server motherboard and buy two XEON's for $2,000+ just for the CPUs and then you'll have 10 more cores instead of only 2 more from your 6 core enthusiast sector.

I do extremely intensive DB stuff, so I need SSD and lots of RAM, but 4 cores is plenty for me. I'm sure there are situations where someone would need more cores for things such as rendering.

Intel isn't stupid -- in fact, I think we really hate them because they have no incentive to give a shit about us due to a lack of competition. That, and they know very well how to get every penny possible from the masses.

We as a group here on Hard Forum may be wise to their methods, but I guarantee you that 95+% of their target demographic has not a clue about all of this. In the end, one has to ask "how much am I paying per gigaflop, gigabyte, IOS, etc." I always get a kick when I look on Newegg and read about the super-rich kid who gave intel 3 times more money for 15% more CPU power. Unless that kid is making profitable Pixar movies in his basement, he's just pissing money away to Intel's giant golden coffers.
 
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Really hope their will be a revised X79 chipset refresh because the current X79 boards are disappointing, really dislike third party USB 3.0 controllers because most of them are trash, buggy and unreliable and I would like to see native USB 3.0 support for X79 and more native SATA 3.0 ports would be nice.
 

RVWinkle

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Really hope their will be a revised X79 chipset refresh because the current X79 boards are disappointing, really dislike third party USB 3.0 controllers because most of them are trash, buggy and unreliable and I would like to see native USB 3.0 support for X79 and more native SATA 3.0 ports would be nice.

Motherboards are always leaked 6 months in advance. If something new was being designed in China then there would already be photos on the internet.
 
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I'm sorry is there something wrong with my 2600k? 5 less watts and 5% more IPC in exchange for lower clocks? Dang I'm missing out.

ya, I'm on a 2500k, and its hard to rationalize an upgrade when a full 16x 2.0 lane is fine and I only have 1 SSD. I still want to though lol.
 
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