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It's Official - AMD RX 9070 Starting @ $549 and 9070 XT @ $599

StoleMyOwnCar said:
I'm seeing at least a few hundred XT's in stock at the local Microcenter at $600. I'm honestly not sure if I want to go for it or not. I'm sort of tempted, just to have a GPU purely dedicated to gaming, that I won't want to use for AI stuff at all.

But it's definitely just a luxury.
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Where at? I just checked the Chicago store and they have nothing in stock.
 
rinaldo00 said:
Where at? I just checked the Chicago store and they have nothing in stock.
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My profile has my state. Both of the ones near me have at least 100 or so in stock at MSRP it looks like.

Fuck it, I think I might pick one up. With Microcenter, returning is easy anyway. I'm sick of gaming on a 2080 while my 3080 Ti and 4090 are just chugging at AI stuff.
 
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Furious_Styles said:
Wish retailers would give 1 week free returns and beyond that you get slapped with a decent restocking fee.
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This is infuriating, Best Buy sold out before 9:01 am EST, Newegg kept giving checkout errors for a 9070xt . I managed to get a Powercolor 9070 through the checkout process only for it to get cancelled within 20 minutes
 
StoleMyOwnCar said:
My profile has my state. Both of the ones near me have at least 100 or so in stock at MSRP it looks like.

Fuck it, I think I might pick one up. With Microcenter, returning is easy anyway. I'm sick of gaming on a 2080 while my 3080 Ti and 4090 are just chugging at AI stuff.
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I'll be damned, I just checked and you are correct, plenty in stock.

What is going on down there, or should I say NOT going on ;)
 
rinaldo00 said:
I'll be damned, I just checked and you are correct, plenty in stock.

What is going on down there, or should I say NOT going on ;)
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The problem is who knows how accurate this shit is. Even if it's only ~30 mins to one of them, I don't want to waste an hour just to get jack shit, or go over there and find out there's a massive fucking line... which there probably is.

The fact that people are immediately scalping this is just pathetic, too.

I'm trying to see if I can get ahold of anyone on live chat, but no luck.
 
Prince Valiant said:
I was going to make a joke about raiding Microcenter and marking them up for you guys but it's limited to one and you have to go in store :eek:.
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Im surprised at how much were still in stock at the Westbury MC but it's not online reserve and in store pickup. I wouldn't waste a 45+ minute trip each way to risk getting there and leave empty handed tho.
 
StoleMyOwnCar said:
The problem is who knows how accurate this shit is. Even if it's only ~30 mins to one of them, I don't want to waste an hour just to get jack shit, or go over there and find out there's a massive fucking line... which there probably is.

The fact that people are immediately scalping this is just pathetic, too.

I'm trying to see if I can get ahold of anyone on live chat, but no luck.
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Can you call the store and find out what the situation is? Maybe personnel are too busy to answer the phones.
 
We regret to inform you that your order(s): xxxx was voided due to insufficient stock.

If your account was charged, please allow 3-5 business days for the funds to be refunded to your original form of payment.

If you still want the item(s), check the product page for options to backorder the item or Auto-Notify you when back in stock. If available, the checkout button will be replaced with these options.

We appreciate your understanding.

Newegg Customer Service Team
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Don't take orders then cancel them. That just wastes my time and screws me out of other opertunities !!!
 
F'ers... Fake availability... taking the $50 rebate... but faking stock..then they'll jack the price up after the rebate period is over from AMD... then we'll get a glut of "resupply"
 
rinaldo00 said:
Can you call the store and find out what the situation is? Maybe personnel are too busy to answer the phones.
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I drove by the Sharonville OH Micro Center at 10AM and the line is wrapped around the building an hour after the store opened. They show a lot of stock but based on the couple hundred at least in line… it won’t last.
 
rinaldo00 said:
Can you call the store and find out what the situation is? Maybe personnel are too busy to answer the phones.
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There isn't really any phone to call, they don't give out their number. I could probably find it trying to google it down... but... oh well.
 
Line at MC Fairfax, VA is about 100 people deep... Apparently they only have 30-40 msrp cards left.
 
Anything available online seem to have sold out fast in Canada, but in store location even not that far from $600 USD seem to still have some left, if there website inventory are updated close enough to realtime. Impressive. Memory express even still accept pre-order 9070xt (backorder coming soon)
 
arthur_tuxedo said:
I just keep going back to the question of why they launched any consumer Blackwell card other the 5090. They could have just kept cranking out Lovelace cards, which were long past the break-even point. Price drop right before AMD’s embargo date to spoil their launch, tout DLSS Transformer to the moon, and release the other Blackwell cards when 3 GB modules are available and the production issues are sorted out. I’m just a nerd who follows tech news; if that strategy is obvious to me, how could NV’s highly-paid marketing and management people have missed it?
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GDDR 6x is in painfully short supply, as is HBM3e. There isn’t enough of it out there to keep up with demand not by a long shot. Samsung really F’ed up the memory supply chain by F’ing their nodes up like they did.

I mean TSMC isn’t even the choke point for Blackwell, memory supply is, Nvidia has more chips than they can put memory on.
 
Lakados said:
GDDR 6x is in painfully short supply, as is HBM3e. There isn’t enough of it out there to keep up with demand not by a long shot. Samsung really F’ed up the memory supply chain by F’ing their nodes up like they did.

I mean TSMC isn’t even the choke point for Blackwell, memory supply is, Nvidia has more chips than they can put memory on.
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He asked that given the supply issues why not JUST make 5090s seeing that they have the best margin and sold out at all prices.
 
Honestly, WTF is going on? Why do so many people need brand new video cards these days?

I remember my old cards: 8800GT, GTX260, GTX970, 1080ti.... They were all so easy to get from all partners at any time, even on launch day and the days after. What is driving this insanity?
 
LightsOut41 said:
Honestly, WTF is going on? Why do so many people need brand new video cards these days?

I remember my old cards: 8800GT, GTX260, GTX970, 1080ti.... They were all so easy to get from all partners at any time, even on launch day and the days after. What is driving this insanity?
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Greed.
 
LightsOut41 said:
Honestly, WTF is going on? Why do so many people need brand new video cards these days?

I remember my old cards: 8800GT, GTX260, GTX970, 1080ti.... They were all so easy to get from all partners at any time, even on launch day and the days after. What is driving this insanity?
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I'm inclined to say that the biggest issue is that the biggest demand for GPUs is no longer gamers; it's AI. I don't have stats though.

Edit: a quick google search says that Nvidia made about 500% more from datacenter sales vs gaming GPU sales a year ago, so yeah, that's where their production output is going. Granted they are probably marking up prices for data centers like crazy. More so than even for gaming GPUs. Still though, if there is basically unlimited demand for your most profitable products, why bother with gaming at all?

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LukeTbk said:
And even bigger ratio from AMD:
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Gaming desktop Gpu are a smaller portion of AMD gaming revenues I think (depending on the relative switch-laptop vs ps5-xbox-deck adn so on) and it was a bit over 7 to 1 the last 2 quarter
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The one caveat to that is AMD is primarily a CPU maker, so data centers were always a big part of their business because of servers. That chart doesn't differentiate between CPU and GPU sales. A lot of their data center growth has been due to kicking Intel's ass for the last few years and eating into their share of the server market.

In other words, each additional data center sale isn't necessarily the sale of a chip that could have gone to a GPU for a gamer instead.
 
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I lined up at my local Microcenter earlier today (6am) and got a Powercolor Reaper RX 9070 XT @ MSRP ... everyone who got on the (physical) line before the 9am store opening was able to get a 9070 XT -- from the various subreddits and the local MC Discord for local stores in my area, it looks like they all got in the low hundreds of XT cards per store (Tustin, CA got 1000 and Dallas, TX got 900). Not a paper launch by any means, IMHO.

My mini write-up (complete with photo proof) here (post #25)

Edit: just hit up my local MC discord again, and it looks like (some) folks were still leaving with MSRP XT cards as of 11am -- the higher cost, custom AIB models are still available in many MCs (physical line).
 
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Who cares. Now that Nvidia and AMD have both launched I can give it another week then start looking for stock. I didn't get up early to play a game of "pointless frustration.". Not anymore. Been through it too many times now. I'll get a card... When I can get a card at MSRP at will.
 
Gorilla said:
The one caveat to that is AMD is primarily a CPU maker, so data centers were always a big part of their business because of servers. That chart doesn't differentiate between CPU and GPU sales. A lot of their data center growth has been due to kicking Intel's ass for the last few years and eating into their share of the server market.

In other words, each additional data center sale isn't necessarily the sale of a chip that could have gone to a GPU for a gamer instead.
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TSMC order is TSMC orders at the end of the day it can be less direct and more different division could fight it more, gpu or cpu, not much of those datacenter Nvidia revenues are from gpus that could have gone to a gamer instead either, a lot of those are networking, H100-200, etc... (B100 now), they probably put detached L40s-RTX 6000 in there, but it will be marginal vs the big H100s system orders that use different HBM memory than gaming card. The more key difference is the explosion was more expected and less big, so they probably less in a sell all we can make for datacenter scenarios, there is less of a if we make X gpus that mean y less sales, they also have more nodes diversity in their product stack.

Advil said:
When I can get a card at MSRP at will.
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According to many retailers MSRP was only for today:
https://videocardz.com/newz/retaile...o-first-shipments-price-set-to-increase-later
 
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tungt88 said:
I lined up at my local Microcenter earlier today (6am) and got a Powercolor Reaper RX 9070 XT @ MSRP ... everyone who got on the (physical) line before the 9am store opening was able to get a 9070 XT -- from the various subreddits and the local MC Discord for local stores in my area, it looks like they all got in the low hundreds of XT cards per store (Tustin, CA got 1000 and Dallas, TX got 900). Not a paper launch by any means, IMHO.

My mini write-up (complete with photo proof) here (post #25)

Edit: just hit up my local MC discord again, and it looks like (some) folks were still leaving with MSRP XT cards as of 11am -- the higher cost, custom AIB models are still available in many MCs (physical line).
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Yeah I don't think it's a paper launch, demand is just through the roof and AMD is the only company making cards at volume now. Since Deepseek became a thing 7900 XTX's have doubled in price. I sold mine for 700 5-6 months ago, I see them going for well over 1000 used regularly.
 
rinaldo00 said:
And you never miss an opportunity to find something, anything, to dump on AMD.
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And you are mad at me for pointing out their unscrupulous behavior? They literally baited and switched the MSRP. At least Nvidia has the decency not change the price on the MSRP models even if they never come back in stock.

And much like the mods like to tell me when reporting trolling by members here, I'll use the ignore feature.
 
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I sold my reference AMD 7900 XTX 6 months ago to wait for a 9070 XT Asus OC, and in return, I got roughly the same performance. :D I'll take the warranty and owning a new card for once, basically paid 60 bucks for FSR 4 and a warranty. I almost always buy used off of here (don't worry folks, I'm sure i'll be buying your used GPUs again some day).
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG6vYnr2Iwk
 
ZeroBarrier said:
And you are mad at me for pointing out their unscrupulous behavior? They literally baited and switched the MSRP. At least Nvidia has the decency not hange the price on the MSRP models even if they never come back in stocks.

And much like the mods like to tell me when reporting trolling by members here, I'll use the ignore feature.
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AMD had a lot more stock at MSRP than Nvidia did.
 
TheMadHatterXxX said:
Im surprised at how much were still in stock at the Westbury MC but it's not online reserve and in store pickup. I wouldn't waste a 45+ minute trip each way to risk getting there and leave empty handed tho.
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That's how it was at the nearest one to me, guessing every location is. Looked like they might've had enough stock but I wasn't waiting in a line when I couldn't get a direct answer on whether or not they had $600 models remaining. Modest amounts of stock on the marked up variants but I think most people would rather wait than bite on that.
 
rinaldo00 said:
AMD had a lot more stock at MSRP than Nvidia did.

It is just that you are so one note. If that is all it takes to get on your ignore list you must be pretty thin skinned. I will now stop before the ban happens .
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I don't know about stock at MSRP, but they certainly had more stock; that's for sure.
I am very interested to see where the prices go on the 9070 (non-XT) because at MSRP, they are too close to make sense, but given the minimal selection of vanilla MSRP cards, I expect the price gap between them to widen to a place that makes more sense with actual availability pricing.
 
Looks like AMD or AIBs sent nearly their entire stock to MicroCenter, probably to alleviate bots a little bit. Smart move, but it sucks for everybody else.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Looks like AMD or AIBs sent nearly their entire stock to MicroCenter, probably to alleviate bots a little bit. Smart move, but it sucks for everybody else.
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Newegg had a decent amount of cards, everyone just tried to buy the 599 cards right away. the 700+ ones lasted 15 minutes lol. I checked out at 9:06 AM and my card version of the card was sold out at 9:15 (Asus Prime). A decent amount of people also had their confirmations overturned by newegg because they oversold the card. Still holding out hope mine gets shipped I'm slightly nervous.

Edit: For the record, my card was NOT MSRP, it is a 3 8-pin card and an oc model, extra 120 dollars (17 percent markup). I don't mind the card seems really well built and has Honeywell PTM7950.
 
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Lakados said:
I don't know about stock at MSRP
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For many retailer, probably, some seem to say about a good 20% of card being MSRP and that they had more 9070-9007xt for day 1 than all Blackwell combined since they launched. Maybe not the amazon-walmart-newegg-bestbuy-costco, but the type of store that talk about their stock and take picture of it and make promo on social media....
 
Marees said:
MSRP only for first batch of cards. If you plan to buy, then act immediately

https://videocardz.com/newz/retaile...o-first-shipments-price-set-to-increase-later
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And just like that, AMD's victory with the 9070 XT may be wiped away. If it is out of AMD's control I understand but if these are going for $150+ MSRP the value is largely gone. I suppose it will still be cheaper than a 5070ti, though the 5070ti is a bit better in ray tracing and DLSS is a bit better. If you're already spending $700, I suppose people will just go ahead and pay another $100 more for a 5070ti as there are a few models around $800.

Really will depend where the retail prices settle, but seems like a decent upper mid range GPU is going to be $700+ for the foreseeable future.
 
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