Is it safe to buy a used video card? This guy has to be buzzing ...

Krenum

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What this man doesn't know is, he takes a risk every time he eats a bowl of soup.


I've bought MANY used video cards some 20+ years old. Never had a problem. The magical trick is to know what you are buying to begin with.
 

nEo717

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I sell mine to sellgpu unless its a friend - its the other way around for me (my opinion) in that times in the past you bump into buyers who get your card, overclock the crap out it, buddy tells them don't buy it - and they want a return or try charge-back (with my job, often end up with many top cards (Ti's, Titan's, etc...) that have seen zero overclocking and only few hours of use in the lab). You may be able to find places like (and including) sellgpu where you can buy used gpu's with some sort of company backing if person to person seems to risky for you.

Example all my Radeon VII's, in last month couple went to friend, sold rest (make room for new top AMD cards in lab) - next up will be 2080's and then Ti's (soon), followed by RTX Titan's - sellgpu I know the price, zero returns, no end tech support needed and no one ticked off or buyers remorse to deal with.
 

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Man that was hard to watch. No data or statistics. The guy was giving tech advice based on a hunch.
 

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I sell mine to sellgpu unless its a friend - its the other way around for me (my opinion) in that times in the past you bump into buyers who get your card, overclock the crap out it, buddy tells them don't buy it - and they want a return or try charge-back (with my job, often end up with many top cards (Ti's, Titan's, etc...) that have seen zero overclocking and only few hours of use in the lab). You may be able to find places like (and including) sellgpu where you can buy used gpu's with some sort of company backing if person to person seems to risky for you.

Example all my Radeon VII's, in last month couple went to friend, sold rest (make room for new top AMD cards in lab) - next up will be 2080's and then Ti's (soon), followed by RTX Titan's - sellgpu I know the price, zero returns, no end tech support needed and no one ticked off or buyers remorse to deal with.
Any estimate what they pay for 1080s and 1070ti's?
im sitting on a bunch
 

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Any estimate what they pay for 1080s and 1070ti's?
im sitting on a bunch
Normally if I have few cards, I email them and they will work with you - While as pointed out, its not always a better price than private sale may bring, however, they provide the shipping label for you, even the box if you wish, and once they get the card, its fast payment and you never need worry about them doing a charge back or over- clocking the card(s) and wanting a refund after they screw them up (or say your selling junk, lol). My first sale to them I was (as sure most are) pretty hesitate - they have been great though - I've sold some of CPU's, memory, and ssd's from my lab as well.

Here's few others
1080 $162.00
Radeon 64 $202.00
1080 Ti $252.00
2080 $302.00
Intel 6950X $182.00
 

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Normally if I have few cards, I email them and they will work with you - While as pointed out, its not always a better price than private sale may bring, however, they provide the shipping label for you, even the box if you wish, and once they get the card, its fast payment and you never need worry about them doing a charge back or over- clocking the card(s) and wanting a refund after they screw them up (or say your selling junk, lol). My first sale to them I was (as sure most are) pretty hesitate - they have been great though - I've sold some of CPU's, memory, and ssd's from my lab as well.

Here's few others
1080 $162.00
Radeon 64 $202.00
1080 Ti $252.00
2080 $302.00
Intel 6950X $182.00
cool thanks sir!
 

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So lots of moving parts and you can over clock the snot out of them. Seems rational enough.


Wait a minute. No it doesn't. The only moving part is the fan, and 99% of people who over clock gpus don't overvolt the cards. So it's hardly different than buying a higher end model that's pre over clocked by the vendor. What the fuck? Oh wait pc world. All makes sense now.
 

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I've got a few cards here, one has no moving parts and my 1080ti has 3 moving parts. Not sure what his deal is, feels like I am watching a video by The Verge.
 

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Normally if I have few cards, I email them and they will work with you - While as pointed out, its not always a better price than private sale may bring, however, they provide the shipping label for you, even the box if you wish, and once they get the card, its fast payment and you never need worry about them doing a charge back or over- clocking the card(s) and wanting a refund after they screw them up (or say your selling junk, lol). My first sale to them I was (as sure most are) pretty hesitate - they have been great though - I've sold some of CPU's, memory, and ssd's from my lab as well.

Here's few others
1080 $162.00
Radeon 64 $202.00
1080 Ti $252.00
2080 $302.00
Intel 6950X $182.00
I am assume they are a reseller, where to do they sell these used cards?
 

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I am assume they are a reseller, where to do they sell these used cards?
I wouldn't be surprised if it was ebay. They basically have 100% margin to work with so even after fees and other stuff they probably net 75-80% profit. Not a bad business.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was ebay. They basically have 100% margin to work with so even after fees and other stuff they probably net 75-80% profit. Not a bad business.
No kidding. I'd rather take my chances on ebay than just give the cards away like they expect people to do.
 

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Listening to the guy and hearing it in context I don’t think you guys are treating what he said fairly.
I don’t think he believes that video cards have moving parts, I think he just means there is a lot that can go wrong. He’s being idiomatic and also couldn’t think of another adjective to describe what he means.
 

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Any estimate what they pay for 1080s and 1070ti's?
im sitting on a bunch
go to the website and fill out the info in the box on the right and you will see the "offer" (just close out the page and whooosh ... you're done - no selling or obligations unless you accept their offer )

for my MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G I emailed them and they said it's treated the same as any other GTX970 LOL and they offered me a whopping $30

the MSI GTX 970 Gaming 4G still easily sells on eBay for $100 so after expenses I'd have $60 so IMO their offer doesn't cut it

I am assume they are a reseller, where to do they sell these used cards?
my guess is; "dun da da dun" ... eBay
 
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Armenius

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Listening to the guy and hearing it in context I don’t think you guys are treating what he said fairly.
I don’t think he believes that video cards have moving parts, I think he just means there is a lot that can go wrong. He’s being idiomatic and also couldn’t think of another adjective to describe what he means.
He says it more than once. Even says that he would buy a used CPU over a video card due to all the "moving parts" it has compared to a CPU.

Regardless, his arguments are nonsensical and offers nothing to back them up.
 

UnknownSouljer

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He says it more than once. Even says that he would buy a used CPU over a video card due to all the "moving parts" it has compared to a CPU.

Regardless, his arguments are nonsensical and offers nothing to back them up.
I listened to the whole thing. Your argument should also include at least that "he thinks CPU's also have moving parts". Which, I don't think is his position either. But then in addition to that, you should also argue that both of them think this because there was no correction given therefore what's-his-face is complicit.

In short, to reiterate, all he's trying to say is that (in his opinion) GPU's can get abused more and have more that go wrong than CPU's. Whether you believe that is an entirely different topic. But here on this forum we're pedantic enough to argue semantic phrases. Which, sure, I have semantic arguments that I take all the time. As an example: I hate the fact that people around me say "literally" all the time and clearly do not know the definition of literally. But it doesn't deter me from at least understanding what people are trying to say, despite using wrong diction.

Honestly in its current form this thread belongs in GenMay.
 
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Armenius

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I listened to the whole thing. Your argument should also include at least that "he thinks CPU's also have moving parts". Which, I don't think is his position either. But then in addition to that, you should also argue that both of them think this because there was no correction given therefore what's-his-face is complicit.

In short, to reiterate, all he's trying to say is that (in his opinion) GPU's can get abused more and have more that go wrong than CPU's. Whether you believe that is an entirely different topic. But here on this forum we're pedantic enough to argue semantic phrases. Which, sure, I have semantic arguments that I take all the time. As an example: I hate the fact that people around me say "literally" all the time and clearly do not know the definition of literally. But it doesn't deter me from at least understanding what people are trying to say, despite using wrong diction.

Honestly in its current form this thread belongs in GenMay.
Language is important. The senior and executive editor of a major publication should understand this. If anything, the lack of preparation and editing of the script for this video tells me these two are incompetent and should not be in their respective positions for this magazine. It gives me doubt that anything else published by them is intelligible or trustworthy.
 

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I understood him to mean "multiple points of failure" when saying "moving parts". In that regard, he's dead right.

Personally I'd never buy a 2nd hand gcard. Just never. I've watched my own brand new, cared for, only been under water GPUs die horribly, so fuck knows the condition of some other bozo's bullshit.
 

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it does not matter what i buy, it does not ever seem to be within 'warranty'. seeing warranty as an advertised feature rates right next to seeing a rebate offered. so i strictly buy the lowest priced object i need so when it does not work i can just toss it in the bin. it has worked for me. used cards seem to have the same DOA rate as new, and if it is a well handled used card then that is better because someone else made sure it was not a DOA new card.

brands i will NOT buy new or used because they have the worst rate of suck include but not limited too: ASUS, PowerColor, Dell, probably others if i thought about it.
 

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I never buy a new card. I buy used. I've never had any used card die on me. With prices for high end new cards, I will continue to buy them used from users who chase the latest and greatest. I purposely buy last Gen highest level card.
 
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i bought both a gtx 1060 6gb and a gtx1070 off of ebay and both showed up in perfect condition
both were evga brand
 

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Language is important. The senior and executive editor of a major publication should understand this. If anything, the lack of preparation and editing of the script for this video tells me these two are incompetent and should not be in their respective positions for this magazine.
Words matter a lot, I agree. However, two things:
1) People brain fart. He's in a public speaking situation and is speaking off the cuff. I've had plenty of times even in casual conversation where I couldn't think of the exact words I was looking for.
2) People are at different levels of expertise and they design their language and skill level for that audience. MaximumPC is for people who have an interest in computers but are clearly amateurs and are still at a very basic level. Getting upset about this is like getting upset at an amateur astronomy magazine (with telescopes and such) for not using scientific language at the level of NASA. The point is, this was supposed to be digestible for people that don't know a lot. The average person on the [H]ardforum would never even ask in the first place whether they should buy a used video card or not. They have their own points of reference. The question was for newbies and the response was also for newbies. Some newbie buying something off of eBay not knowing what they're doing is going to have a lot more headaches than someone from here, they may not even be able to diagnose problems properly as an example.

It gives me doubt that anything else published by them is intelligible or trustworthy.
Cool. Like I just mentioned, these guys aren't for you. And they don't have to be either. You're not their audience. That's okay. But that doesn't mean it's not useful or beneficial for someone else despite not being perfect.
If you expect that every piece of information is delivered to you with perfect diction, perfect understanding, perfect preparation, perfect clarity, and is concise, then you're going to be disappointed a lot. Because I haven't found that anywhere.
What we're really discussing is "at what level is this a problem" and really our lines are just in the sand. And what you find to be unacceptable isn't unacceptable to other people in the same way that "ability in cooking food" has different levels of acceptability. Despite both being about levels of competence. I don't expect a fine dining experience when I get fast food (Most people flipping burgers don't even know what the Maillard Reaction is, and if they trained someone else to flip a burger, I wouldn't expect them to perfectly describe these processes either). I don't expect the highest echelons of information on a website designed for newbies.
 
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These guys are Maximum PC editors or former writers.
Gordo is pretty good on cpu stuff. Certainly fun to watch at times, especially when he's talking with Steve at Gamer's Nexus.

As for all those moving parts. Electrons man. Electrons. They be flowin, same as that dude's rhododendron like beard.
 

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While unscrewing the shroud and sink to replace a fan and fully dust off a card is a minor pain that is probably the main risk other than an abused card (overvolted and overclocked). I’d take a trusted forum members word that this was not the case and take my chances on a used card. There’s a small risk no doubt, similar to buying refurb or open box but if you do your homework with regards to the card, mfg. warranty and the seller you greatly reduce that. If you can’t take the chance financially (your only gpu, no funds or fallback if it fails) then you shouldn’t.
 
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