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Is 290 better than GTX 780?

cubsfan-budman said:
When you're right you're right. Idk what I was looking at. My bad.
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Maybe you meant to say Unigine benchmarks. That would tell a whole different story. :)

At any rate, I don't give a rat's-ass which card is faster when they're so close performance wise. It's like saying NY style pizza is better than Chicago style deep-dish pizza. Comes down to personal preference / features imo.
 
The moral of the story is pick which ever one you can get a better deal on...they are really close and hopefully you get a good clocker, my 290X is doing 1200/6400, got it for $450 brand new. Had the 780Ti been close to that price I probably would have bought that. Find what works best for your wallet
 
Once everyone started saying to use 3dmark and heaven/valley to show max oc vs max oc...well the thread went downhill.

How about we play some real games and test it? Or how about you test with your wallet?

Best bang for the buck is the 290. specially if you plan to game in 4k. 2 290's will beat 2 780's in SLI.

Hell Nvidia can't even run proper 4k with the new samsung 4k monitor....

Just my 0.02c
 
DASHlT said:
Once everyone started saying to use 3dmark and heaven/valley to show max oc vs max oc...well the thread went downhill.

How about we play some real games and test it? Or how about you test with your wallet?

Best bang for the buck is the 290. specially if you plan to game in 4k. 2 290's will beat 2 780's in SLI.

Hell Nvidia can't even run proper 4k with the new samsung 4k monitor....

Just my 0.02c
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Spot on. Taking a single metric, any single metric, and trying to sell one's opinion based on that metric is misleading at best. That's why I decided to get both a 290 and a 780 and see for myself which suits my actual real world applications best. The 780 took it by both performance and refinement.

But that is at 1080p and single GPU. If I was looking for a GPU solution for 4K, there would be only one choice: 290 CF.
 
wonderfield said:
No, that's just a correct statement. They're sometimes or in some ways indicative of real-world (read: gaming) performance, but they don't necessarily reflect real-world performance.
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Thanks, wonderfield, I did choose my words very carefully. :D
 
My friend and I spent the last 2 nights benchmarking my system with a clean OS Install and drivers for both the Asus 780 Ti and the XFX 290x I have and we both think the gaming performance, basically everything, the entire experience is better on the 290x. The very high price point of the Nvidia card was also a deciding factor but we realize that some of you won't mind spending several hundred more dollars. We higher average frames per second in nearly all the games we played.
 
Resolution and what games are we talking about? Pretty blanket statement considering the 780 Ti is generally regarded as the faster card. Then again, not the point of the thread.
 
gerardfraser said:
Ditched my 780Ti SLI for R9 290 crossfire,worked out great for me.
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if you don't mind me asking, where is the logic when switching from 780ti sli (290x might be a more fitting equivalent) to 290 cf?
 
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VonGriffin said:
if you don't mind me asking, where is the logic when switching from 780ti sli (290x might be a more fitting equivalent) to 290 cf?
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probably price?

Sell 2 780TI cards for a premium, pick up 2 used 290s for the price of 1 780TI and enjoy almost the same performance!
 
Rangerjr1 said:
Better scaling
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Yepper for most games.

VonGriffin said:
if you don't mind me asking, where is the logic when switching from 780ti sli (290x might be a more fitting equivalent) to 290 cf?
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In my gaming machine I switched from 680SLI to R9 290 cards and was blown away with the speed.

Here's the answer to your question,I believed the Nvidia hype that 780Ti SLI would be better,so I bought a couple cards.

To my disappointment the cards did not overclock very well and was no different than my R9 290 crossfire.Even was slower in a lot of benchmarks I tried.

So thought it was just silicone lottery and bought more 780TI cards and even non-reference cards. Wow still no improvement over my R9 290 cards.

So I got sucked into the Nvidia hype only to find out its all bullshit,sold all my 780Ti cards.Also bought R9 290x cards no real difference from R9 290 cards also.

Crossfire for me in the same machine is just a better experience overall.Smooth game play and never had any problems.

One last thing you can buy 2 R9 290 cards for less than the price of one 780Ti card and for me that's just amazing.
 
gerardfraser said:
In my gaming machine I switched from 680SLI to R9 290 cards and was blown away with the speed.

Here's the answer to your question,I believed the Nvidia hype that 780Ti SLI would be better,so I bought a couple cards.

To my disappointment the cards did not overclock very well and was no different than my R9 290 crossfire.Even was slower in a lot of benchmarks I tried.

So thought it was just silicone lottery and bought more 780TI cards and even non-reference cards. Wow still no improvement over my R9 290 cards.

So I got sucked into the Nvidia hype only to find out its all bullshit,sold all my 780Ti cards.Also bought R9 290x cards no real difference from R9 290 cards also.

Crossfire for me in the same machine is just a better experience overall.Smooth game play and never had any problems.

One last thing you can buy 2 R9 290 cards for less than the price of one 780Ti card and for me that's just amazing.
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Wow, how many cards did you buy and return? That's pretty crazy! ;)

Quite possibly something wrong with your testing methodology, driver versions used, etc., but very glad you feel you are happy with your decisions! :)
 
Starrbuck said:
Wow, how many cards did you buy and return? That's pretty crazy! ;)

Quite possibly something wrong with your testing methodology, driver versions used, etc., but very glad you feel you are happy with your decisions! :)
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or maybe for the resolution he plays at there is no discernible difference between the setups?
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
or maybe for the resolution he plays at there is no discernible difference between the setups?
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Yepper this would be the best explanation.Just running 144Hz screen and 60in hooked up for 3d gaming.
I would never use 3 screens might buy a 4k screen though someday.

@starrbuck
So you really believe someone who runs at 1080P screen has no input on video cards and is flawed in there testing,
(Wow) can you suggest what resolution I should be running in your opinion that would be acceptable.Except the higher resolution from the reviews on this board seem to favor AMD cards.

Also let me say I am not like other people that buy video cards and return them,I just would not feel good about that.
 
gerardfraser said:
@starrbuck
So you really believe someone who runs at 1080P screen has no input on video cards and is flawed in there testing,
(Wow) can you suggest what resolution I should be running in your opinion that would be acceptable.
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I never said that. Someone else brought up the resolution issue. I simply stated resolution would be one thing to be considered.

gerardfraser said:
Also let me say I am not like other people that buy video cards and return them,I just would not feel good about that.
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I'm sorry, I do see now in your post you said you sold them all. My bad.
 
LOL its all good.Well there just video cards IMO both sides are good and I just happen to like AMD side for now,that may change again in the future.
 
gerardfraser said:
LOL its all good.Well there just video cards IMO both sides are good and I just happen to like AMD side for now,that may change again in the future.
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Honestly ,if mining was out of the question, I would have picked up a GTX 780, instead at the time I went for a 290 and an aftermarket heatsink, now that AIBs have their custom cooled cards, I would have to ponder for some time my next year of gaming before buying a card.
 
striker444 said:
I have a 290x Lightning and a 780 GTX ACX , when we are talking about speeds with max overclocks, my 290x was about 15% slower (benchmarks and gaming, depends on what though, some were less than 15%) as it couldn't clock as high. I would imagine a 290 would be around 20% slower when fully overclocked.
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Ironic that many professional reviews are showing it as anywhere from a butt hair slower than a titan to substantially faster (depending on game) 20% slower is straight up malarkey. Coming from someone who has owned 4 780s, 4 titans, 3 290s, and now 3 290xs.

If your looking to buy and those are your options, get the 290. Between price and extra frame buffer it seems to be a no brainer. Plus if you plan on doing any surround gaming, nvidia has major issues with windows 8.1 and certain games. (For example in ffxiv I get 25fps with the rig in my sig)
 
Starrbuck said:
The 290 is definitely slower. The 290x vs 780 might be a tossup, depending on the overclock and the game, but I'm out on anything AMD due to the driver situation.
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The 290 and 780 are basically neck/neck. I think people are Interchangeably using 780/780ti and 290/290x

To the OP - the reviews are all over the net. Most of these people are paid to be objective. What do u expect to find here that exceeds that?

Truth be told. Single display gaming... They all perform within 10fps of each other in the most extreme situations and all comfortably play the newest games maxed. Pick your poison or look for a sale, let that be your deciding factor.
 
gerardfraser said:
I agree
I have owned both 780Ti SLI and R9 290 crossfire.They trade blows,AMD is a great deal.
You can actually buy 2 R9 290x for the same price of one 780TI.
AMD all the way.A couple purchase by me in the last little bit.

AMD is just as good and just as fast at half the price.
Gigabyte GV-R929XOC-4GD-R9 290X - 408 Canadian or 372 US

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Zotac 780Ti Amp Edition Feb 14 2014 for 824 Canadian or 743 USA dollars
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Here. Perfect example. He's asking 780 and 290 not 780ti and 290. So if the 290 is holding it's own against the superior 780ti at nearly twice the cost. You have your answer.

Besides it's no secret with nvidia you pay a premium for nothing more than a name. Build quality is the same and software/support is arguably worse for 100s more .
 
Question is popping up, the 780s can be had for $520-550, while the R9 290 (non x) can be had for $400-440.. go with the R9 290?
 
Driver and power usage arguments are so fucking pathetic and just downright retarded. They dont hold any significance.
 
To each his own but after using Nvidia for nearly a decade I got fed up with playing russian driver roulette and replaced all Nvidia with AMD. Stability and consistent performance is more important.
 
mi7chy said:
To each his own but after using Nvidia for nearly a decade I got fed up with playing russian driver roulette and replaced all Nvidia with AMD. Stability and consistent performance is more important.
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Logically since AMD never releases drivers, you spend less time messing with them.
 
PnkPwrRngr said:
The drive argument doesn't seem valid any more with continuous complaints on both sides.
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I was just replying in kind.

It's been my experience that AMD's video drivers are inferior. Just look at all the problems with the current 14.4 betas and people going back to 13.12. With NVIDIA, you rarely have any issues with the latest betas.
 
The biggest difference is you have far fewer people with AMD cards complaining about nVidia drivers than the other way around.
 
I've been using crossfire 290 and so far everything has been smooth sailing. Then again, I don't have any problems with nvidia cards either. All the cards I've bought in the last 20 years has run well for me. I usually stick with AMD because they tend to have better price/performance but have gotten Nvidia when can be had for a good price. Just my 2 cents...
 
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