iPhone 5 is officially the worlds most powerful phone

Discussion in 'Smart Phones and Devices' started by kre62, Sep 18, 2012.

  1. kre62

    kre62 Limp Gawd

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    Your initail speculation invalidates the rest of your post.

    The 5 battery is 1440mAH. The 4S is 1430mAH. So battery is damn near identical. Maxx is 3300mAH. Now thats inefficent.

    Also, the iphone 5 is the fastest. Not just as fast. The fastest. Phone on the market.

    Enjoy that Windows Phone with 10 real apps.
     
  2. OldPueblo

    OldPueblo [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm enjoying my mapping, if I want apps I'll bust out a tablet/laptop rather than a tiny screen. :D
     
  3. wonderfield

    wonderfield [H]ardness Supreme

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    How do you define "best"? Is it subjective or is it ruthlessly objective?
     
  4. wabbitseason

    wabbitseason [H]ard|Gawd

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    I'm starting to think you're a troll wonderfield. The OP is clearly out of his mind and trolling like a master. You must be quite the contrarian.
     
  5. wonderfield

    wonderfield [H]ardness Supreme

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    Well, obviously.

    Asking questions makes me a contrarian? How so?
     
  6. dremic

    dremic [H]ardness Supreme

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    i bought a W7P and I'll tell you right now it sounds good but the absolute lack of developer support is BRUTAL.

    IGN doesnt even update their windows app.. it has a daily update from November last year.


    Honestly I cant wait for my iphone 5 tomorrow. I always see adds for apps that would make my life easier and oh shit you need an iphone to use it :X

    my cellphones main priority is to make my life easier via convenience and having a windows phone just makes your life harder. BALIE DAT
     
  7. thedocta45

    thedocta45 [H]ard|Gawd

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    What makes the iPhone 5 fastest?
    You have linked one article that states its slower than the G3.
    You linked one chart that shows that the phone is .3 seconds loading a page.

    One huge problem you run into linking that page load chart is that it clearly shows the 4S to be much slower than a G3, which you previously claimed was able to keep up with the G3.

    So what metrics are you using to measure any of these claims?

    PS if you want to play devils advocate you need to back it up with actual facts.
     
  8. kre62

    kre62 Limp Gawd

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    I really laugh when peoples best comebacks to a fully supported, documented, laid-out with facts argument is some kind of useless quip.

    To me, it means I completely crushed it and won the arguement hands down.

    Thanks man.
     
  9. thedocta45

    thedocta45 [H]ard|Gawd

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    You have yet to provided any facts that support any of your claims.
     
  10. dremic

    dremic [H]ardness Supreme

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    arent there a bunch of reviews out that display the iphone 5 as superior then any other flagship phone currently on the market?

    generally it lasts until the next flagship phone comes out hahaha


    what a bunch of babies
     
  11. kre62

    kre62 Limp Gawd

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    Hi Docta

    The original benchmarks I posted made the iPhone5 the fastest phone on the market. Some people hacked their SGS3's with unreleased software to overtake in that one benchmark.

    I then posted another benchmark showing the fastest web performance.

    All the while we have seen that iOS devices do more with less.

    Please re-read all posts before commenting further.
     
  12. kre62

    kre62 Limp Gawd

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    As requested heres some charts where the 4S destroys the SGS3

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    P.S. iPhone 5 has 2x this performance....

    Id like to see the SGS7 take the 5 in this bench.
     
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  13. MrCrispy

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    Well the iPhone needs all that power to render its fancy 3d maps and flyovers which are all WRONG and completely useless.

    It's nothing short of magical !!
     
  14. kre62

    kre62 Limp Gawd

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    First thing ive chuckled at in this thread.

    Luckily Google Maps standalone app is in approval line for the App store. I like the Apple Nav, but theres no argueing Maps is an unfinished product.
     
  15. -Strelok-

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    The one thing that kind of interests me in the iPhone5 is the battery life. But to be honest, for now my GS3 keeps me happy. I guess that is how iPhone4 users felt with the 4s.
     
  16. refraxion

    refraxion [H]ardForum Junkie

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    So now its they need all that power for fancy 3d maps and fly overs?? Android has crap for GPU in their phones.

    Adreno 320, MALI 604 better be good.
     
  17. -Strelok-

    -Strelok- [H]ardForum Junkie

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    I just hope that in 2 years when I get my next upgrade some crazy jump in cellphone technology(that means anything, resolution, cpu power ect.) happens.
     
  18. thedocta45

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    Yeah I had a feeling you were going to say that.

    By your logic modifying any device to make it faster invalidates any benchmarks or performance statics.

    In fact if a manufacture of a product creates system in which one can modify said product that is a feature.

    I will offer you a comparison of sorts so you might better understand this concept.
    Car maker A and Car maker B.
    Car maker A creates a car that goes 0-60 in 5.0 seconds.
    Car maker B creates a car that goes 0-60 in 4.5 seconds.

    Car maker A makes it impossible for you to modify the car.
    Car maker B allows you to modify your car.
    A modified car by maker B goes 0-60 in 4.0 seconds.

    Which car is the fastest/most powerful?

    Before you ask yes the car B now has more bhp than A.

    Being .3 seconds faster in loading a single threaded benchmark that is starting to be questioned as a valid bench is not proof that a phone is fastest.

    It looks as the iPhone is in fact faster in 3D rendering. These are the graphs I have been requesting.

    I could also probably cherry pick evidence that a AMD proc is faster that an Intel in some
    applications. That however does not mean that the AMD is the most powerful processor.

    Your jumping to conclusion too quickly.
     
  19. Digital Viper-X-

    Digital Viper-X- [H]ardForum Junkie

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    so is the ipad 3 inefficient vs the ipad 2? it has double the batteries.
     
  20. kre62

    kre62 Limp Gawd

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    Absolutely as it is using the Qualcomm MDM9600 LTE chip, a huge power suck. Also the screen drains like a mofo. Definitely inefficient.

    Anything else?
     
  21. OldPueblo

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    So the iPad3 is worse than the iPad2 I guess, shame on you Apple.
     
  22. Lunas

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    Ios has hardware custom made for it ios will not run on anything but an ipad or iphone of course it does well on the benchmarks and is optimized crazy tight.

    Android has to contend with running on everything from sneakers and wrist watches to coffee makers not just cell phones...
     
  23. Term-X

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    So which is it?
     
  24. kre62

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    Both, player, I said real world tasks.

    Put the two side by side and see which one loads stuff faster (web pages, email, etc)
     
  25. kre62

    kre62 Limp Gawd

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    My good friend is an Apple emplyee and also feels iPad2 is superior.

    iPad4 with A6 and power efficient LTE wil be better.

    Sometimes Apple gets it wrong.
     
  26. OldPueblo

    OldPueblo [H]ardness Supreme

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    Yeah really recently in fact. :D
     
  27. kllrnohj

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    Well, for web pages Android wins quite easily thanks to Chrome being insanely fast at loading. And the stock browser in JB is no slouch either.

    For email both cache stuff locally, and the "load time" is merely however long the animation is.

    Given that those are your two examples, I don't think you've used Android much at all. Android doesn't get everything right, but email & web it's been doing pretty darn good at for quite a while.
     
  28. kllrnohj

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    Horseshit.

    First, the S3 is rendering a lot more pixels - so of course the 4S can have slower hardware and still be just as fast, it's all about performance per pixel. S3 is pushing 50% more pixels than the 4S. That's a lot.

    Second, the 4S absolutely does not have "waaaay less power" than an S3. Apple has always put the best GPU in the phone with the best memory bandwidth they possibly could. As a result, the 4S is really, *really* powerful. Every iPhone has been *really* powerful. Here, look at the benchmarks: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview Yes, the S3's GPU is faster than the 4S, but not by all that much.

    Third, what is this "does more" thing you are talking about? iOS does less than Android does, not more.

    And finally, in actually usage the S3 is really fast - it compares quite nicely head to head against a 4S, and that's without the improvements JellyBean brings along.
     
  29. thedocta45

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    What does Offscreen mean in this benchmark?
     
  30. wonderfield

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    It means it's rendering to an offscreen render target so it can produce a 720p image. This doesn't change the performance characteristics.
     
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    Love your sarcasm but it is funny.
     
  33. Rash

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    I use a phone that does all the tasks I want the fastest and its not an iphone
     
  34. FM_Fixxxer

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    This guy right here, he gets it.
     
  35. Nettwerk

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    Samsung galaxy 3 is the best phone, I saw it on the internet.
     
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    actually I'm referring to the non-lte variant.

    it has double the batteries, and still less battery life. It's not just the screen, it's also the double gpu,
     
  38. thedocta45

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    How is that a relevant benchmark?
    I can think of zero times I have sent an offscreen render to a TV at 720p.
    Wouldn't you just want to know the performance of a phone in its native resolution?
     
  39. ///AMG

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    Its relevant because different phones have different resolutions. If benchmarking was done only on native res, people could say "oh well that doesnt matter its because that phone has a lower res and pushes less pixels thats why its faster". It makes it a little more scientific. It would be weird to read [H]ard videocard reviews where every car is ran at a different resolution would it not? Thats why you have offscreen rendering of a standard resolution so you can compare.