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Only reason Apple gear holds its value is because of irrational customers who are willing to pay crazy amounts of money for used electronics.
The normal law of electronics is, as soon as you open the box, it has depreciated by 50%, then it's an additional 5% to 10% per month after that.
Without it's irrational user base Apple would be no different.
Meanwhile, I am typing this on my almost 10 year old Dell Latitude E6430s. I upgraded the RAM years ago and added an SSD, but other than that it is the same as when I got it. It even still gets 2+ hours of use out of the original battery!
My Fiance's MacBook Air of similar vintage - however - went to recycling a few years ago. Couldn't even upgrade the RAM as it was soldered to the board, and the drive used some sort of weird ass proprietary connector. Essentially it could not easily be upgraded, and thus was now useless.
It doesn't have to bend for android auto, use one cable for AA that is just barely long enough to reach where you keep your phone. In my f150 there is a ~cubby with a door that hides the usb ports, I close the door on the phone to keep it from flying out during evasive maneuvers and giant potholes etc. 6" A to C cable in there, works fine. Try it. You could use a RAM mount or similar if you don't have a neat compartment like that.Then you do not use your cables in an unplug and plug back in 1000's of times a year then. I take perfectly good care of my stuff, you just do not understand reality outside of your own......... If you use Android Auto, you have to plug and unplug 1000's of times and the cable gets twisted here and there, as well. *Shurg* Someone on the internet thinks bad of me, shocking. And yes, Apple is doing it for one reason only: MONEY!
It doesn't have to bend for android auto, use one cable for AA that is just barely long enough to reach where you keep your phone. In my f150 there is a ~cubby with a door that hides the usb ports, I close the door on the phone to keep it from flying out during evasive maneuvers and giant potholes etc. 6" A to C cable in there, works fine. Try it. You could use a RAM mount or similar if you don't have a neat compartment like that.
Only reason Apple gear holds its value is because of irrational customers who are willing to pay crazy amounts of money for used electronics.
The normal law of electronics is, as soon as you open the box, it has depreciated by 50%, then it's an additional 5% to 10% per month after that.
Without it's irrational user base Apple would be no different.
Meanwhile, I am typing this on my almost 10 year old Dell Latitude E6430s. I upgraded the RAM years ago and added an SSD, but other than that it is the same as when I got it. It even still gets 2+ hours of use out of the original battery!
My Fiance's MacBook Air of similar vintage - however - went to recycling a few years ago. Couldn't even upgrade the RAM as it was soldered to the board, and the drive used some sort of weird ass proprietary connector. Essentially it could not easily be upgraded, and thus was now useless.
Probably. Maybe I’ll give them a try
Did not read the thread.
The EU hit Apple with an ultimatum saying they had to switch to USB-C earlier this year. I'm sure this is the ONLY reason for this.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205807I have several apple 96 watt usb-c adapters I would love to use.
But .... lightning.
Fat lot of good this does you when your neighbor's cat darts across the road or their idiot children chase their ball into the street.It helps to slow dwn so you see them ahead of time to react appropriately. I left knives on truck bumper often only to find them when I got home, still on the bumper.
Meanwhile, I am typing this on my almost 10 year old Dell Latitude E6430s. I upgraded the RAM years ago and added an SSD, but other than that it is the same as when I got it. It even still gets 2+ hours of use out of the original battery!
My Fiance's MacBook Air of similar vintage - however - went to recycling a few years ago. Couldn't even upgrade the RAM as it was soldered to the board, and the drive used some sort of weird ass proprietary connector. Essentially it could not easily be upgraded, and thus was now useless.
Yeah, I'm not too bothered by it. Not only do I have enough Apple chargers lying around, I also have tons of USB type-a ports on so many things that I can also use them.For some reason I don't have a problem with this as I usually would.
Late 2000's Macbooks would have the hinge come apart because Apple didn't make a true unibody design for the screen. The screens were literally glued and spot welded together. It wasn't until 2009 where they machined the screen housing. Bengate is another example over form over function. iPhone 4 Death Grip is another example where Apple was trying to make it pretty without realizing what would happen if people held the stupid thing in their hand. A more recent example is the new MacBook air with the cooling fan not on top of the CPU, which just thermal throttles it to hell and back, which I presume was meant to help keep the laptop thin.Feel free to site actual evidence. Since you're here to give facts.
Statistics on clear design flaws? The design flaws are pretty evident.Also while you're doing that, show me statistics and not single anecdotal usage cases.
That's a well thought out paragraph. Too bad benchmarks show otherwise. Not only is MacOSX the slowest OS by far, but also not the most stable. Maybe more stable than Windows but Linux supports a lot more hardware than MacOSX and is considered the most stable OS. That's why few if even runs servers on MacOSX. Take a look at these benchmarks to see how MacOSX truly stacks up against the competition.The macOS platform has been as nimble as it has been because it has very limited hardware variation, tight control, and can therefore program all of its software in direct concert to the variations of hardware that it knows its sold. They also constantly and consistently depreciate hardware and generally support hardware for 5-10 years depending on where that item fits on their hardware stack. Meaning that they know what hardware variations need compatibility moving forward and if a Mac is operating on a specific desktop OS they know the breadth of the variation of hardware that it could be.
He has an agenda against Apple but again he makes his money repairing Apple products? His agenda is that he hates how Apple tries to prevent him from repairing their products. Maybe he hates the products as well but then again he should know better than any of us. That's like going to a mechanic and asking him which car brand to buy and he tells you Toyota based on his experience and you get angry at him and tell him your Mercedes is still going strong after 10 years and he knows nothing about cars, but again you're not a mechanic and you aren't a statistic. A Doctor will know better what medicine to use and avoid and a repair man will know what to use and avoid as well.One, Louis has an agenda against Apple, and has always had one since they screwed him. Google it.
Late 2000's Macbooks would have the hinge come apart because Apple didn't make a true unibody design for the screen. The screens were literally glued and spot welded together. It wasn't until 2009 where they machined the screen housing. Bengate is another example over form over function. iPhone 4 Death Grip is another example where Apple was trying to make it pretty without realizing what would happen if people held the stupid thing in their hand. A more recent example is the new MacBook air with the cooling fan not on top of the CPU, which just thermal throttles it to hell and back, which I presume was meant to help keep the laptop thin.
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Their hardware could have "a million" design flaws. If it keeps doing what it needs to do it doesn't matter. So you don't really have any stats. It's just your opinion. If it's "apparent" then driving stats should be easy. If anything you should be talking about how crazy it is that their design makes no sense to you and still works.Statistics on clear design flaws? The design flaws are pretty evident.
Most benchmarks are going to have more to do with apps and how well they are coded to a system. If you want to see the reverse of that just look at apps that favor macOS. FCPX is one of them. It is by far the fastest video renderer out there. Both in timeline rendering and final rendering. Premiere as an example is dead last (on every platform). But a better comparison would be to show Davinci Resolve since they actually do spend time optimizing based on platform.That's a well thought out paragraph. Too bad benchmarks show otherwise. Not only is MacOSX the slowest OS by far, but also not the most stable. Maybe more stable than Windows but Linux supports a lot more hardware than MacOSX and is considered the most stable OS. That's why few if even runs servers on MacOSX. Take a look at these benchmarks to see how MacOSX truly stacks up against the competition.
The hardware repairability argument for a phone in particular is pretty irrelevant for me. I don't own a phone past two years, and if something happens it's covered under Applecare+ where they just give me a replacement phone.
Also, I fundamentally believe the software on phones is the bigger purchasing point for most people, and this outright kills any normal consumer phone with Android for me.
I'll point out that this Louis guy complains about Apple constantly, but he ended up buying a LG G6 that ended up breaking that he couldn't repair either because the replacement part he needed isn't even sold.
He complains about Apple constantly because the lions share of the mobile market in a city like New York is going to be Apple. He constantly see's Apple. That doesn't mean his opinion is statistical fact, however.
Give me my 3.5mm headphone port back and you can keep the earpods. Also, cut down on the rediculous packaging, especially at brick and mortars where you leave with phone in your pocket.
Well, "surprisingly" (not to me, but to Apple detractors) Apple is ahead on lower cost options.4 pages is too much to read for me but it seems like these phones are just getting more and more and more expensive.
Soon you wont even get a screen with your phone. It will be a separate purchase.
Like any repair place he repairs all brands. He has to make money. Apple is not alone trying to prevent him from repairing their products.He has an agenda against Apple but again he makes his money repairing Apple products? His agenda is that he hates how Apple tries to prevent him from repairing their products. Maybe he hates the products as well but then again he should know better than any of us. That's like going to a mechanic and asking him which car brand to buy and he tells you Toyota based on his experience and you get angry at him and tell him your Mercedes is still going strong after 10 years and he knows nothing about cars, but again you're not a mechanic and you aren't a statistic. A Doctor will know better what medicine to use and avoid and a repair man will know what to use and avoid as well.
Like any repair place he repairs all brands. He has to make money. Apple is not alone trying to prevent him from repairing their products.
Do you remember the Motorola StarTAC? That phone was $1000+ when it came out 24 years ago.4 pages is too much to read for me but it seems like these phones are just getting more and more and more expensive.
Soon you wont even get a screen with your phone. It will be a separate purchase.
I have owned phones for more than two years. But when they break I just replace them because repairing them is typically not cost effective for me. Plus its a good time to upgrade.
Never used em.
Oh. We're talking about machines from a decade ago.
Like any repair place he repairs all brands.
He has an agenda against Apple but again he makes his money repairing Apple products? His agenda is that he hates how Apple tries to prevent him from repairing their products. Maybe he hates the products as well but then again he should know better than any of us. That's like going to a mechanic and asking him which car brand to buy and he tells you Toyota based on his experience and you get angry at him and tell him your Mercedes is still going strong after 10 years and he knows nothing about cars, but again you're not a mechanic and you aren't a statistic. A Doctor will know better what medicine to use and avoid and a repair man will know what to use and avoid as well.
No, the video you quoted points out it's a NEW in 2019 laptop. LTT did a video about this, too, and he specifically says right up front he's talking about the Macbook air 2020. Not only does the fan not have a heat pipe, the heat sink barely touches the CPU, either.
Linus circled the fan in yellow, I circled the heat sink in magenta.
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Yeah, to my dismay though, Android Auto appears to still pass the audio via BT, even when plugged in using screen mirroring, which is a bummer, as bluetooth negatively affects audio quality.
HmmThe BT audio is only for phone calls, not media playback while using AA.
Hmm
Well, it still sounds worse when playing via AA than it does with the native apps in my car.
Unless he's changed, he only repairs Apple products. I watched a video of his several months ago, that may have been a year old at that point, so probably hard to find, but he specifically said he only does Apple products because there's a limited number of hardware options (and mostly he sees the same failures). He said if he did laptops in general he'd have a much greater range of issues to deal with. Maybe that's kind of like Tiger Woods only entering tournaments he thinks he can win, but I dunno.
The Macbook Air with the misplaced cooling fan is from last year and this year. Apple's messed up butterfly keys are a few years ago. This is not a company who makes reliable good hardware, and they haven't done so in forever. If you watched the video you'll see that Louis is getting ready for a wave of Macbooks with CPU's burned out because of their poor air cooling design. The only solution is to replace the CPU and that won't be cheap.Oh. We're talking about machines from a decade ago. Should I compare that to emachines or Dells made in the 90's?
Keep in mind that a lot of companies fail with their design and still keeps it working. Xbox 360 kept working for a lot of people despite their poor design. HP laptops had bad solder joints that kept working for a lot of people. Nintendo Switches work for a lot of people despite issues with their analog sticks. Stop making excuses for Apple's poor designs because not everyone has a fucked up experience. You can clearly see the poor design with your own eyes and it's just a matter of time before people experience the flaw. Also where would I find a statistic in people who own these products and finding them fail? Apple? Louis Rossmann? Stop defending Apple and their anti-consumer practices.Their hardware could have "a million" design flaws. If it keeps doing what it needs to do it doesn't matter. So you don't really have any stats. It's just your opinion. If it's "apparent" then driving stats should be easy. If anything you should be talking about how crazy it is that their design makes no sense to you and still works.
We're talking about the OS not the apps. Final Cut Pro X is exclusive to MacOSX and says nothing about the OS's speed and reliability. I actually don't know who has the fastest video rendering nor can I find out who does.Most benchmarks are going to have more to do with apps and how well they are coded to a system. If you want to see the reverse of that just look at apps that favor macOS. FCPX is one of them. It is by far the fastest video renderer out there. Both in timeline rendering and final rendering. Premiere as an example is dead last (on every platform).
Ok so Davinci Resolve is at least on Mac, Windows, and Linux. Windows vs Mac shows that if you have a 3D accelerator then the performance difference isn't huge but with Linux it is much faster than both. Since Linux can run on anything including a PS4 then MacOSX being tied to Apple hardware is nothing but bullshit.But a better comparison would be to show Davinci Resolve since they actually do spend time optimizing based on platform.
You mean the Phoronix link? Phonorix the Linux website? You clearly didn't read anything. DOTA2 is natively ported to Mac, Windows, and Linux. Nothing is running DOTA2 Windows version on Wine for both Linux and Mac. Xonotic is an open source freely availible game, which means it runs natively on Mac as well as Linux and Windows. Valved ported DOTA2 to Mac using MoltenVK because Apple hasn't discovered Vulkan yet. They had two, count them 2 games only. The rest was Java, Firefox, Chrome, compression tests like 7zip, and yes some synthetic tests. So mostly productively benchmarks.Heck, the direct link you put up is for games clearly made for Windows. Yeah, I'm sure that won't be slanted at all. Most of the rest of these tests are synthetic.
Do everyone a favor and actually look at the stuff I linked before glancing at it and spouting your ill informed opinion on it. You wanna prove me wrong then link benchmarks or show me videos. Because honestly your bias is showing far more than mine.All this does is just show your bias and not really any objective proof. So thumbs up on consistency.
I would check your playback quality settings then or a different app or something. I can't tell a difference between the native app or AA in my XC40 at least.
I'm not convinced the quality is actually lower. It may just be the "loudness bias effect" (louder sources are perceived by the brain as sounding better) but - for instance - in my S90 the native Spotify app sounds much better (and louder at the same volume) than the app in the phone via Android Auto, even with comparable quality settings.
It also frustrates me that the input automatically switches to my phone whenever I plug it in or start the car. I'm constantly switching the input back to the native Spotify app
It pisses me off to no end that whenever I turn the car on and my phone connects it automatically starts playing music. Im like if I wanted you to auto fucking play I would've told you. There is literally zero option to disable it in my Chevy.
If you want this to be a discussion primarily about build quality we can do that. I spent about 5 minutes looking up the Dell XPS 13 and 15 as an example and there is a litany of common problems on current hardware. Apple has two items on their product stack that haven't really been updated. And that's the Macbook Air and the Mac Mini. Considering the rest of their product stack is more than solid, telling people to not buy two models like telling people to not buy two models from a car company isn't even remotely a big deal.The Macbook Air with the misplaced cooling fan is from last year and this year. Apple's messed up butterfly keys are a few years ago. This is not a company who makes reliable good hardware, and they haven't done so in forever. If you watched the video you'll see that Louis is getting ready for a wave of Macbooks with CPU's burned out because of their poor air cooling design. The only solution is to replace the CPU and that won't be cheap.
Bad design is bad design. I wouldn't call Nintendo having bad joy-cons anti-consumer. That's a leap at best.Keep in mind that a lot of companies fail with their design and still keeps it working. Xbox 360 kept working for a lot of people despite their poor design. HP laptops had bad solder joints that kept working for a lot of people. Nintendo Switches work for a lot of people despite issues with their analog sticks. Stop making excuses for Apple's poor designs because not everyone has a fucked up experience. You can clearly see the poor design with your own eyes and it's just a matter of time before people experience the flaw. Also where would I find a statistic in people who own these products and finding them fail? Apple? Louis Rossmann? Stop defending Apple and their anti-consumer practices.
Okay great. Feel free to read my thoughts about testing methodology below. But in short this isn't a particularly good reason to be on any OS.We're talking about the OS not the apps. Final Cut Pro X is exclusive to MacOSX and says nothing about the OS's speed and reliability. I actually don't know who has the fastest video rendering nor can I find out who does.
Ok so Davinci Resolve is at least on Mac, Windows, and Linux. Windows vs Mac shows that if you have a 3D accelerator then the performance difference isn't huge but with Linux it is much faster than both.
Well, you're welcome to buy Apple and dictate to them what they do. You're basically complaining that a company is able to make it's own choices in the market. Not sure what your point is here.Since Linux can run on anything including a PS4 then MacOSX being tied to Apple hardware is nothing but bullshit.
Right. So all synthetic.You mean the Phoronix link? Phonorix the Linux website? You clearly didn't read anything. DOTA2 is natively ported to Mac, Windows, and Linux. Nothing is running DOTA2 Windows version on Wine for both Linux and Mac. Xonotic is an open source freely availible game, which means it runs natively on Mac as well as Linux and Windows. Valved ported DOTA2 to Mac using MoltenVK because Apple hasn't discovered Vulkan yet. They had two, count them 2 games only. The rest was Java, Firefox, Chrome, compression tests like 7zip, and yes some synthetic tests. So mostly productively benchmarks.
There's a reason why super computers and servers around the world use Linux and not MacOSX or Windows. Apple should open up MacOSX so people can use the OS beyond Apple hardware. This would be a good thing for Mac users because it means more applications could be developed for it. Apple's recent announcement for going to ARM has lost users on MacOSX but oddly grew more users on Linux. Coincidence? I would even go as far as to open source MacOSX if I were Apple.
I did. But you should also be self aware enough that every time you respond to me you're bringing the headache back. So whether it's you or its me doing "the favor" we shall see. Mostly because all of this is about opinions and you can't be bothered to think that any other opinion is okay other than yours. For the second time now, you wield your opinions as fact. And your values as the only values. Which is why we're still here. Because you can't see any other way and no other way is acceptable.Do everyone a favor and actually look at the stuff I linked before glancing at it and spouting your ill informed opinion on it.
There isn't much of a point in looking at your links because of the information above. Feel free to show me any program that is optimized equally well on different operating systems. You won't, because it's impossible.You wanna prove me wrong then link benchmarks or show me videos.
And you are bias. And I am bias too. The difference here is that your bias leads you to believe that there is only one option and one way of doing things (and voicing over and over how terrible Apple is and moan on and on). And my bias says it's fine if you want to use Windows or Linux that's your choice in the market. And I can think that those other platforms don't offer me what macOS does, and also be right. And if people are using a different OS for their usage case in order to do what they do, that's fine because Windows and Linux offer things that macOS also doesn't. Shocking position I know.Because honestly your bias is showing far more than mine.
Same in my Volvo. I suspect it is a part of the Android Auto specification. It's a bit annoying.
The environmental benefit of selling empty boxes cannot be overstated.Opinion? Tim Cook's claim to fame was removing the Headphone Jack.
"Kuo said that Apple will instead release a new 20W power adapter as an optional accessory for iPhones and end production of its existing 5W and 18W power adapters later this year. The form factor of the new 20W power adapter is said to be similar to the 18W version, with USB-C Power Delivery for fast charging, as seen in the leaked photo below. Kuo believes that iPhone 12 production costs will significantly increase due to 5G support, but he expects Apple to sell the new models at a comparable price to its iPhone 11 lineup, and removing the EarPods and power adapter from the box is one way to reduce costs. Apple would likely also tout the environmental benefits of such a move. Barclays still expects Apple to include a Lightning to USB-C cable in the box as the only accessory included with iPhone 12 models."
https://mobile.slashdot.org/story/2...e-12-wont-include-charger-in-box-says-analyst
I remember car integrated cell phones with $1/min fees too. It charged the fee even if the recipient of the call didn't pick up .Do you remember the Motorola StarTAC? That phone was $1000+ when it came out 24 years ago.
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