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Supreme [H]ardness
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As per the title - is there any interest in this?
I have been pursuing building the perfect, passive, silent system for over ten years.
After considering a build with a custom fully CNC case over the last few months, plus as quiet of an h2o system as possible, after a brainwave, I finally figured out a viable approach to cool a high end rig, in complete solid state silence. I'm a big fan of this approach - reliable and it always works no matter what. The old, proven Scythe Ninja rev1, really opened my eyes to what is possible with a good design.
From what I've seen on the market over the years, there is currently no other existing solution to do this, e.g. passively cool a 5960x, two Fury X/980ti/titans clocked up the wazooo, plus the rest of the motherboard components etc, without water, in a totally sealed case.
Closest thing I know of, with water, was the old Zalman Reserator V1 fanless, however I don't know how it would fare with the latest crop of CPUs.
Past efforts to market, have had very limited thermal capacity, pretty much all CPU only. Not including e.g. the Arctic passive GPU cooler which is inside the case. For this design, I'd be looking at a solution which has the capacity of a decent water cooling setup, e.g. 1.5-2kW of cooling capacity, at under >38 degrees temperature delta. It might run a little hotter than water, assuming absolute worst case load and minimal air movement in the room but it would be unbeatable for total silence and maintenance free operation. A huge dent in that thermal delta could be made with some 180mm + 18db type fans or circulation in the room, however this could defeat the purpose.
This solution would not be light weight, approx 45kg with components, it would be similar size to a double wide tower case, perhaps slightly larger. It would have no fans, no pump noise, no water maintenance, no worries, no vibrations, no dust filters, no nothing making noise unless you have coil whine. Even then, it would severely dampen it. Also no dusting of electronics - a fully sealed design. After fixing computers for many years, maintaining my own is truly a bore, I do enjoy the eye candy though!
It would be more function over form, more for workstation users, a 'build it once don't worry about it and don't change it for a long time' type approach, however it's definitely possible to make it something unique and striking looking.
Is this something of interest to you [H] users?
Also as a further note, I work with a German company which builds ultra high end laser projection systems, a niche market leader, these are often custom built and with highly overkill active air cooled (usually also TEC, sometimes TEC+water) cooling systems. Very modern 3, 5 axis CNC machines, a 6/Y axis dual turret CNC lathe and the rest to go with it.. practically everything is designed and made in-house.
Another thing we've looked into is full CNC case builds also, but this passive idea may be more of interest (and value added) than simply a case.
Your thoughts are appreciated, Hardocp! Cheers.
I have been pursuing building the perfect, passive, silent system for over ten years.
After considering a build with a custom fully CNC case over the last few months, plus as quiet of an h2o system as possible, after a brainwave, I finally figured out a viable approach to cool a high end rig, in complete solid state silence. I'm a big fan of this approach - reliable and it always works no matter what. The old, proven Scythe Ninja rev1, really opened my eyes to what is possible with a good design.
From what I've seen on the market over the years, there is currently no other existing solution to do this, e.g. passively cool a 5960x, two Fury X/980ti/titans clocked up the wazooo, plus the rest of the motherboard components etc, without water, in a totally sealed case.
Closest thing I know of, with water, was the old Zalman Reserator V1 fanless, however I don't know how it would fare with the latest crop of CPUs.
Past efforts to market, have had very limited thermal capacity, pretty much all CPU only. Not including e.g. the Arctic passive GPU cooler which is inside the case. For this design, I'd be looking at a solution which has the capacity of a decent water cooling setup, e.g. 1.5-2kW of cooling capacity, at under >38 degrees temperature delta. It might run a little hotter than water, assuming absolute worst case load and minimal air movement in the room but it would be unbeatable for total silence and maintenance free operation. A huge dent in that thermal delta could be made with some 180mm + 18db type fans or circulation in the room, however this could defeat the purpose.
This solution would not be light weight, approx 45kg with components, it would be similar size to a double wide tower case, perhaps slightly larger. It would have no fans, no pump noise, no water maintenance, no worries, no vibrations, no dust filters, no nothing making noise unless you have coil whine. Even then, it would severely dampen it. Also no dusting of electronics - a fully sealed design. After fixing computers for many years, maintaining my own is truly a bore, I do enjoy the eye candy though!
It would be more function over form, more for workstation users, a 'build it once don't worry about it and don't change it for a long time' type approach, however it's definitely possible to make it something unique and striking looking.
Is this something of interest to you [H] users?
Also as a further note, I work with a German company which builds ultra high end laser projection systems, a niche market leader, these are often custom built and with highly overkill active air cooled (usually also TEC, sometimes TEC+water) cooling systems. Very modern 3, 5 axis CNC machines, a 6/Y axis dual turret CNC lathe and the rest to go with it.. practically everything is designed and made in-house.
Another thing we've looked into is full CNC case builds also, but this passive idea may be more of interest (and value added) than simply a case.
Your thoughts are appreciated, Hardocp! Cheers.
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