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. Also is this Raja making these claims? I remember why I was super excited when he finally left AMD. He had all these grand claims that got everyones hopes up and then the truth came out with the release. Hopefully Intel reigns him in a bit and this doesn't get stupid. I think 3070 performance in a laptop is kind of extreme considering how much power 3070 performance takes, although 6nm should be a little bit more efficient, but still, the thermals. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I feel like people are going to be let down or battery life is going to be around 3 minutes .
Maybe for DTR systems.TSMC 6nm? Guess that's better than Intel 10nm, then again 14++++ is still better than 10nm
I would agree as it looks this generation both amd and nvidia have opted to ride the hot end of the efficiency curb with large dies. I can't see Intel addressing the same market with a laptop power envelope on a first gen productTSMC 6nm? Guess that's better than Intel 10nm, then again 14++++ is still better than 10nm
Technically it's a 3'rd gen, the Xe would be first the DG1 would be second and that is shipping to OEM's now so the DG2 makes it third-gen, or maybe 2.5 gen?
Intel has no problem throwing engineers and money at problems. I believe that would be enough to bring a GPU to reality. And about duds, im a huge fan of the Intel phi processors as they have there role in in hpc
I think such a situation may happen if Intel makes a firm entry into the dedicated GPU market and if amd is successful this gen. Can you imagine a 3 way race between 3 very capable companies to actually hit the best market position they are capable of?That's true, if I were them though and the performance is indeed what they say it is, if they priced it $100-150 dollars under AMD and Nvidia they would sell like hotcakes. Could you imagine greater than 2080ti performance (based on 3070 rumors) for $350 bucks?!
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Intel + Raja, GTX 3070 performance turns out to be more like RX 470, they missed a few numbers when leaking info
Yuup.
Intel has literally not been able to do this very thing since ever. .. and now they're going to hop into the market with a 3070 grade perf mobile part?
The end of Moore's Law just says no.
Why would they do this? They would be more of a paper launch then the 3080... you don't price yourself so cheap that you can't supply demand. You can only gain market share if you can produce product and I highly doubt Intel's first chip is going to have the capacity needed to grab large parts of the market. They will price it inline with it's performance vs. the competition, they have name recognition already, so no need to come in and undercut prices just to sell what small quantities they will have.That's true, if I were them though and the performance is indeed what they say it is, if they priced it $100-150 dollars under AMD and Nvidia they would sell like hotcakes. Could you imagine greater than 2080ti performance (based on 3070 rumors) for $350 bucks?!
We both know that integrated solution is pure rubbish. I was talking about dedicated GPUs.
I've said it before: whether it's Intel, AMD, or anyone else, if you can provide a bog-standard SOC-type solution (and it doesn't need to be a true SOC, just have that kind of all-in-one feel to the end user) with the power of an Xbox S, it will become the de-facto standard laptop/SFF consumer power plant. It would be the Model T of PC hardware for five years straight.
I’m pretty sure AMD gutted the 4000 series to hit the budget Asian markets, I doubt they planned to make it a large scale launch. Probably more of a proof of concept they could capitalize on than proper launch.
Wasn't there information that came out that Raja is trying to make himself CEO of Intel?
You do remember, they also had our Kyle at one point.
yeah it's fast as a 3070... when playing minesweeper!!! lolIntel + Raja, GTX 3070 performance turns out to be more like RX 470, they missed a few numbers when leaking info
Admittedly, I haven't been following Intel's discrete graphics very closely, but I thought the parent designs were heavy-hitting number crunchers/on-the-fly video encoders for companies like Amazon and Netflix; there's got to be some potential to squeeze gaming performance out of that kind of framework.
