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Lets hope for hard launch and not just paper launch and without prices jacked up hard, like with Vega recently.
Personally, I'll put launch availability and price on the altar for sacrifice if the silicon deities bless Coffee Lake with Z270 compatibility. XD
To be fair, they all seem to be ok. Certainly any cpu from the top half.OrangeKhrush Notice that I used a review favoring RyZen chips. For instance in the graph I gave the R5 1500x is slightly above the i3 7350K and the R3 1300X is on pair with the i3 7100. In other reviews RyZen chips are slower, for instance PcGamer found that the R5 1500x is slower than the i3 7100
Adding more cores is now considered a "real" generational improvement? That's sad. The reality is until Kaby Lake IPC has been increasing about 5-7% per generation since Sandy Bridge. While certainly not as impressive as to 50-70% we see in video cards, improvements on the CPU side are not as easy to come by and it still shows Intel has not been stagnant. Meanwhile, it took AMD 5 years to catch up to the single core performance of Intel's 6-year old processors.
Corsair Vengeance LPX?Yep, sick of this crap myself - I'm an ITX guy and I can't buy nice quality high end ram without ramsinks and everyone knows (HardOCP ? Anandtech?) that it's been tested YEARS ago that ramsinks are a waste of time.
I don't wanna buy $350 of memory and delicately remove idiot ramsinks
Comparatively, yes, upping the core count by 50% is a real improvement over Intel's languishing in their cozy desktop processor monopoly over the last 6 or 7 years. This is speculation, but I'm betting Coffee Lake would be 2c i3, 4c i5, and 4c+ht i7 if it weren't for Ryzen. By the same token, I'll bet you Skylake could have been 4c i3, 6c i5, and 6c+ht i7 if Intel had any incentive to improve their products at that point. But they didn't.
If that's the case, then, like I said, it's just speculation on my part.
Hope you're right, we'll know in a week or two.
One of my systems has less than 2mm space above the memory module itself, if I recall.
Asrock already got one planned, replacing their 270 board of the same type I guess?
I was under the impression they would both coexist and the Z390 would be a more expensive premium platform?
My assumption is changing socket to accept 6c. Otherwise it doesn't make much sense but following closely with z390 would mean it has been rushed.
Do mobos with built-in WiFi cost more than others atm? Not everybody needs it, but if Intel plans on offering it as a "free" upgrade (ie, same price as Z370) then people are gonna be mad.
On either side of the extreme
OrangeKhrush Notice that I used a review favoring RyZen chips. For instance in the graph I gave the R5 1500x is slightly above the i3 7350K and the R3 1300X is on pair with the i3 7100. In other reviews RyZen chips are slower, for instance PcGamer found that the R5 1500x is slower than the i3 7100
They have allready said in desktops by the holidaysThanks for ruining my hype
If it isn't launch next week I hope at least it is pushed this winter
, but the recent ideas of Intel go a step ahead. Some of 7700ks are getting mad temp spikes to 90c and Intel says "ye shall not oc". 
