sanitarium16
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Wonder if coffee lake will be available for pre order 8/21
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Wonder if coffee lake will be available for pre order 8/21
Because the 8700k is a 6 core 12 threaded CPU and the platform is still cheaper than threadrippers 1900x 8 core 16 threaded part. Also it's a known fact Intel offers faster performance on single threaded apps which I have plenty of.You make no sense if you have you use for that many cores why are you even looking at 8700k
The question of eight slower cores versus six faster cores is certainly worth pondering.
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Intel-Core-i3-8350K/Rating/3935
8350K spotted on Userbenchmark
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z370 AORUS Gaming 7
I think there is little to ponder here. In this thread you can find a comparison between six core i7-8700K and eight core R7-1700X.
In another part I compared the i7 to the R7-1800X
- 14% higher IPC
- 34% higher ST
- 6% lower MT
But those numbers are at stock settings. Considering that i7 will OC surely without problems to 4.5GHz, whereas 1800X hits a 4GHz wall. The above numbers have to be changed to
- 14% higher IPC
- 50% higher ST
- 6% higher MT
And the i7 is cheaper and comes with an iGPU as well...
Is this expected any time soon?When DRAM companies ramp up production beyond what the datacenter, mobile and smartphones uses. Samsung for example moved from 12% to 27% server memory alone in the same timeframe. Desktop is last again.
USD conversions are never accurate (always too high). The original price being CAD might make them closer though.
Like I said you still make no sense. Last post you said you couldn't wait that long for 8700k and now Intel is cheaper and faster single threadBecause the 8700k is a 6 core 12 threaded CPU and the platform is still cheaper than threadrippers 1900x 8 core 16 threaded part. Also it's a known fact Intel offers faster performance on single threaded apps which I have plenty of.
It pretty much has to be $350 MSRP, there's not much wiggle room before they hit the 7800X.
8th Gen Intel Core Processor Family (Coffee Lake-S) Possible Pricing and Release Date
Here's the possible prices and release date for the new lineup. I believe they come from a pre-launch listing, so a little gouging is expected. Also, hardware tends to be more expensive in Canada - Core i7-7700K's regular price in NCIX is $484.98 CAD and months after launch it's $429.99 CAD. MSRP (recommended price) should be very similar to the Kaby Lake-S models they are replacing.
So do we expect the 8700 to outperform the 7800? Both 6 core, but higher clock speeds for the 8700?
Is it just the x299 platform that people don't like?
im with intel much faster on ST but 50% sounds too unreal at 4.5ghz. let say intel can go 5ghz, amd can do 4ghz. thats only 25%, even with faster IPC say 10% on intel thats not even close to 40% in ST overall. how do you calculate the 50%?
The question of eight slower cores versus six faster cores is certainly worth pondering.
Now who has a line to some cheap high speed ram? These prices suck.So as expected CFL cost the same as KBL models. Nice find sweepr!
haha, yes you are right, I did a stupid mistake. Corrected my post. Thanks
The IPC gap is 14%
(218 / 163) * (4.0 / 4.7) = 1.138
Even considering 5GHz for Intel and 4GHz for AMD, the gap is only 42%
1.138 * 5/4 = 1.423
we don't need to wonder. 8700k will be faster than 7800X, and 7800X is already usually faster than 1800X http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1903?vs=1950[/QUOTE
assuming 8700k can clock just as well as 7800x, i think there should be no problem especially its 14nm++. now just wish intel isnt lying about the IPC gain..
My frustration here is that we're stuck with 16 PCIe lanes + 4 more from the PCH/DMI link.It's a matter of 'right tool for the job'. Main truth is that Intel HEDT has made a place for itself in the gaming community because that's where Intel has been releasing their six-plus core CPUs for the last half-decade, and now that they've run out of clockspeed improvements and IPC improvements, they're putting a six-core CPU into their consumer socket.
So, the main 'dislike' is that X299, no different than X99 that preceded it or AMD's newly-minted X399 that competes with it, are expensive platforms that offer a lot of options that aren't needed for gaming or many other resource-intensive tasks. Only now, with Coffee Lake and Ryzen in consumer sockets, you don't need to move up to HEDT unless you have some heavy requirements in addition to or in place of gaming.
Trying to decide now if I should get a fast ram kit over a slow one.Now who has a line to some cheap high speed ram? These prices suck.
So when is Coffee Lake on 14++ (or Cannon Lake) coming? Intel only stated that other members of the 8th Generation family (which contains Kaby Lake Refresh, Coffee Lake and Cannon Lake) are coming later this year. Desktop will come in the autumn, and additional products for enterprise, workstation and enthusiast notebooks will also happen. As for today's 8th Generation U-series announcement, Intel tells us that we should start seeing laptops using the new CPUs hit the market in September.
An NDA just ended @ 3AM EST. Nothing on CFL-S today.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11738...tarting-with-kaby-lake-refresh-for-15w-mobile
In our pre-briefings, Intel only mentioned Coffee Lake in the context of the fact that today’s launch is not Coffee Lake. Because media were expecting this to be Coffee Lake (and expecting it to be a desktop processor launch), the question ‘is this Coffee Lake’ was actually asked several times, and the answer had to be repeated.
So seems they went with IMVP9 VRM spec. Unless mobo makers and OEMs demanded it.
Just so we're clear on today's talking points:
"Thanks AMD" for the upgraded mobile chips & bumping CFL forward a few months. AMD deserves all the credit.
Not "Thanks AMD" for the lack of backwards compatibility. The blame falls entirely on Intel.
Carry on.
What IPC boost, no evidence of that yet.
Nobody here gives a shit about mobile chips lmao.This thread according to our friendly Intel associates:
Prior to NDA - 6 cores on the desktop is going to kick Ryzen's ass
After NDA - These new mobile chips are amazing
Rumor I think.Few more weeks for CFL-S. Sept. 16(ish) it seems.