Since there will be a 9700k as well...
Any chance that the 9000 series CPUs will just be the 8000 series with the hardware fixes for Spectre and Meltdown Intel promised by year's end?
Cannot help but feel a 9700K is going to open a wound for anyone that splashed out for a 8086K, and then pour salt in it given in theory its going to need to be better than a 8700K for there to be any point, and not really any room to slot another SKU between the two.
Since there will be a 9700k as well, it will be either 14nm++ with architecture improvements (basically Icelake on 14++ as ICL will be 10nm+ with architecture improvements) AND/OR 14+++.
Most likely it is the former as the rumored 14+++ Whiskey Lake architecture is now just an ultra low power 14++ chip.
AFAIK Whiskey Lake is mobile (U Series) platform only, based on 14++, Intel has yet to reveal their next gen Desktop Core naming scheme
Since the 8c CPU isn't on the Micro code fix list, it is possible it has the in die/in silicon mitigations for Spectre/Meltdowndono whats goin up but intel super stingy, like they doesnt want to let people know they've got 8 cores even tho we all know they've got it and its coming soon.. https://wccftech.com/intel-9th-generation-core-processor-family-z390-official-listed/
Since the 8c CPU isn't on the Micro code fix list, it is possible it has the in die/in silicon mitigations for Spectre/Meltdown
8th gen Xeon Intels released:
Basically CFL with ecc and no overclocking. Great for small buisnesses and prosumers.
Late to the party, but the new Xeon 3 gets a great review from Anandtech:
Surprised to see pricing and performance more or less on par with Ryzen; the Xeons get the benefit of onboard GPUs as well as fitting into the C246 boards that typically come with management features (IPMI etc.). ECC support is perhaps more robust, depending on BIOS of the board used for Ryzen.
[on another note, C246 supports i3's with ECC- which would make great inexpensive compact fileservers, as you can get a four-core i3 pretty cheap, and supposing there are ITX C246 boards on the way...]
I'd think that they more or less compete with the 'Ryzen Pro' line, if that ever came out?
Both the 1st gen and 2nd gen Ryzen Pro have been OEM only, unfortunately.
We can continue our discussion fronm the other thread here so Kyle isnt watching. Performance is not the end all of what people want. Why not just have a 7820x run at 4.7 ghz with a default motherboard overclock? In most cases it would be perfectly stable... with enough cooling.
Thanks for the update always nice to get some follow up on these old threads.My 8700K delid just turned 4 years old and my temps are still the same as far as I can tell.
33C idle (blank desktop), low 60's in AC Origins, mid 60's Prime95. The same 3 tests I used the day I finished delidding.
If there's any change it's 1 or 2 degrees, margin of error I guess. Aside from a few GPU swaps my build is untouched.