Intel rumored to announce Arc A750, A380 desktop cards in late May/early June for 350/150 USD respectively

Dark12 said:
Would love to hear more about the transcoding capabilities. sounds awesome!
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not anything that people with intel pc's haven't experienced with modern quicksync support. I had a choice of buying a new mb/cpu or $139 video card. AV1 was just a bonus and hope Plex get's onboard soon. If not.. all the other major competitors support it already. I was using the 1080 for hw transcoding and for some reason I had an issue when FF or clicking on an area further along in 4k movies. It would just hang and I'd have to stop then start then do it again for it to work correctly. This issue disappeared and actually surprised how fast clicking around is now. The 1080 was also heating up everything. Supposedly if you combine a modern Intel CPU w/ a ARC gpu you get a big increase in encoding/transcoding speeds. Handbrake added encode/decode support for AV1 with the assistance from Intel.
 
magnetik said:
not anything that people with intel pc's haven't experienced with modern quicksync support. I had a choice of buying a new mb/cpu or $139 video card. AV1 was just a bonus and hope Plex get's onboard soon. If not.. all the other major competitors support it already. I was using the 1080 for hw transcoding and for some reason I had an issue when FF or clicking on an area further along in 4k movies. It would just hang and I'd have to stop then start then do it again for it to work correctly. This issue disappeared and actually surprised how fast clicking around is now. The 1080 was also heating up everything. Supposedly if you combine a modern Intel CPU w/ a ARC gpu you get a big increase in encoding/transcoding speeds. Handbrake added encode/decode support for AV1 with the assistance from Intel.
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good to know. my plex server is stuck with a ryzen 3600 so I am interested
 
magnetik said:
not anything that people with intel pc's haven't experienced with modern quicksync support. I had a choice of buying a new mb/cpu or $139 video card. AV1 was just a bonus and hope Plex get's onboard soon. If not.. all the other major competitors support it already. I was using the 1080 for hw transcoding and for some reason I had an issue when FF or clicking on an area further along in 4k movies. It would just hang and I'd have to stop then start then do it again for it to work correctly. This issue disappeared and actually surprised how fast clicking around is now. The 1080 was also heating up everything. Supposedly if you combine a modern Intel CPU w/ a ARC gpu you get a big increase in encoding/transcoding speeds. Handbrake added encode/decode support for AV1 with the assistance from Intel.
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I have an AMD ryzen 2700 and a gtx1070 hacked for Plex. Yes it skips and pauses and would best be used in a gaming setup like before.
My Intel Arc arrived today and I will be setting it up later to see the difference. Hopefully works as well as you say
 
Burticus said:
I read Intel has officially given up on DX9/10 and doing it all via emulation in DX12.
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That's the start of it - not making a "native" < DX12 driver. I wouldn't expect them to - a DX12 bridge makes perfect sense to someone coming in the game now. But...

The next part is that even with emulation making it theoretically work, the drivers from AMD and NV have are chock full of title-specific workarounds for quite a number of older and out of support stuff.

The value of that is of course up to the buyer - but to some degree at least, the tribal wisdom embedded in AMDs and NVs drivers does have a value proposition.
 
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Just got home
Too late to install tonight
Maybe tomorrow
 
The A380 is a waste of everyones time. It's slower than a GTX 1060/RX580. It's the same price as a GTX 1060/RX580, so why would anyone buy A380's?
 
FrgMstr said:
Why would you "need" to do that at this point in time? Serious question.
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For hardcore Plex enthusiasts. Some folks want their Plex servers to be able to handle lots of streams at the same time.
 
ZodaEX said:
For hardcore Plex enthusiasts. Some folks want their Plex servers to be able to handle lots of streams at the same time.
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I do not have much experience with Plex from a streaming setup. Can you give me some numbers on what you think will be supported efficiently with this AV1 card?
 
ZodaEX said:
For hardcore Plex enthusiasts. Some folks want their Plex servers to be able to handle lots of streams at the same time.
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Does Plex even support AV1 at this point? I don't think it does.
 
FrgMstr said:
I do not have much experience with Plex from a streaming setup. Can you give me some numbers on what you think will be supported efficiently with this AV1 card?
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Plex uses a GPU for transcodes. Lets say you have a bunch of people (10+) on your friends list like me.
You have a lot of movies and TV shows in various container like mpeg and AVI well there are tons of AVI types like divx, avi 265,avi 264 ect.
Your friends and family likely won't all have a PC they use for streaming. Think Roku, Firestick, Apple TV, android and PC.
This would be great if they all played every codec in you library and at your file size and outbound bandwidth, but they don't. You Plex server has to shake hands and figure out what container and bandwidth. This means it will use the GPU to transcode. Or translate your porn to something your dad's old Firestick will play.
Intel CPUs with Quicksync did this FAR better than Nvidia and AMD GPUs.
On top of that, Nvidia locks out more than 2 streams on consumer grade GPUs (gaming cards) and only allows unlimited streams on professional cards (Quattro P2000 or better) and those are definitely not $140. Yes you can hack an Nvidia gaming GPU for unlimited, which my 1070 is doing but sometimes it's slow and glitchy if you pause, fast forward or have more than 6 streams. This 1070 GPU also starts ramping up heat and wattage with more streams.
AMD CPU can't do it and AMD GPU is a poor choice.
Intel CPUs with Quicksync beats everything. If you have an AMD CPU like me, this gives you Quicksync and AV1 code and decode. If plex adds AV1 support, you save on storage like up to 2/3 the space.
 
Wade88 said:
I prefer to only stream to things that can play the file in hardware to avoid transcoding.
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I mean, sure, but I don't think it's supports it to even play it natively. And if you are streaming from a remote location, it is hard to get a un- transcoded stream depending on the internet connection. People who talk about needing multiple streams are usually streaming to many remote users.
 
FrgMstr said:
I am interested as it seems this is the only reason to purchase one of these. Just wondering why Intel actually built this.
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Ok, i'll see what I can do. I think they wanted more towards high end pro card and gaming is just a 'maybe'.
Will work on on a review for Saturday.
Fingers crossed.
 
FrgMstr said:
I am interested as it seems this is the only reason to purchase one of these. Just wondering why Intel actually built this.
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It was supposed to be the only current gen video card in that price bracket. Even now, the closest discrete graphics competitor is the rx6400 and, despite all the problems, it still thrashes any igpu in gaming performance.

Whether or not this actually works out in sales numbers is, of course, open to debate. I suspect that the 6400 and 6500xt were specifically created to be as low cost in production (and with small die size!) as they are for amd to be able to hammer down the a380 if it ever looks close to gathering the tinyest bit of a semblance of success.
 
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