Intel Plans To Battle AMD Ryzen 4000 In 2020 With Mass of Hyper-Threaded Processors Including 5.3GHz

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  1. kac77

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    Wow good to know. Thanks
     
  2. Mega6

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    from the doc

    pcie 3 and 4

    HOST INTERFACE FEATURES PCI Express 3.0/4.0 x16, x8
     
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    Yeah, that's the only place that confirms it, can't buy it yet and they probably won't release it till their server market supports PCIE 4.0
     
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    So... now they have an optane ssd and nic that their customers cannot leverage the maximum from. It's good that AMD is there to help, lmao.
     
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    "At least 12 new Intel CPUs could be inbound under the Comet Lake-S banner and while they still sport a 14nm manufacturing process, the addition of Hyper-threading means each could pack a much bigger punch and help Intel hold ground against AMD in 2020."

    Does Comet Lake-S sport a 'fixed' implementation of Hyper-Threading that lacks the many vulnerabilities that prompt the enterprise world to switch off the feature by default?
     
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    Intel had already applied fixes in hardware to later Coffee Lake releases (or those based on Coffee Lake). The fixes aren't hard.
     
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    Maybe they can borrow Intels chiller system. ;)
     
  10. Mega6

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    Great plan Intel, you win in watts consumed. Again.
     
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    I think this is worse than Intel just taking the "L".

    Intel will respond correctly when it can, but to take the bulldozer route is nuts. It causes more damage to the brand name than it otherwise would.

    Intel will have a response in under a year. It's not that long of a wait.
     
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    With what? Source?
     
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    Hey, remember less than four years ago when Intel would only give us 4c/8t for $350+?

    Now that's an i3.

    Competition: we all win.
     
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    Depends on the workload. Modern NVMe SSDs still struggle to exceed 50 MB/s in 4k random I/O at QD1, which is probably the most important metric for general-use desktop performance.

    Edit: Intel Optane is a notable exception. Optane drives can reach in excess of 400 MB/s in 4k random I/O at QD1. Still doesn't come close to saturating PCIe 3.0, but it's a start.

    upload_2020-1-13_16-0-4.png

    Sequential throughput isn't everything, there's TONS of room for improvement on every metric of performance (with the exception of sequential speed) on PCIe 3.0.
     
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    Well a overclocked 4.8Ghz all core on the 10980XE vs Ryzen 9 3950x Intel wins in pretty much all the tests and benchmarks they are ahead and especially in gaming. The Ryzen core or IPC or Mhz call lit what you want are much more then AMD's, as AMD designed the CPU in a way it would need or justify a overclock. You might get 200Mhz over the turbo frequency. So were looking at max 4.3Ghz all core vs Intels 4.8Ghz all core. I will take the Intel which is what I plan on doing once the 10980XE comes out.
     
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    A 10980XE is at least $230 more than a 3950X. Good luck on your overclock "all-core". You're probably going to get closer to 4.6GHz on an AIO and 4.8GHz will probably need a custom loop. Add that in.. $$$
     
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    Intel's 7nm is scheduled to be up by the end of the year. We won't really see anything GPU or CPU wise until then.
     
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    They still need new CPU Architecture and it actually wont be ready until 2021 earliest. So NEXT YEAR.
     
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    And 7nm from Intel - I'll believe it when I see it.
     
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    cheers, just not quite sure counts as coffee lake (or derivative) in consumer market as a consequence of Intel's non-stop rehashing of the skylake uarch...
     
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    Well, if it's not Ice Lake, it's some derivative of Skylake in the end. Coffee Lake was just the first revision of Skylake that Intel started doing hardware tweaks to address vulnerabilities, though the CPUs coming that will essentially be back-ported Ice Lake cores on 14nm should actually not need mitigations running in software.
     
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    Not until Rocket Lake in 2021 or whenever they get around to it. Comet Lake is still Skylake based.
     
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    Yes, but Intel has been putting hardware tweaks into newer Skylake- based processors.