Intel Notifies Partners of Upcoming Price Cuts

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  1. cageymaru

    cageymaru [H]ard as it Gets

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    Digitimes is reporting that Intel has notified its downstream PC and motherboard partners that price cuts of 10 - 15% are coming for its 8th and 9th generation desktop processors.
     
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  2. DejaWiz

    DejaWiz Oracle of Unfortunate Truths

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    Can't read the whole article, since I'm not gonna register on that site.

    What the reasoning? Clearing stock to make room for the next gen, or reactive marketing to the competition?
     
  3. Master_shake_

    Master_shake_ [H]ardForum Junkie

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    When all you have is last years product all you can do is lower prices.
     
  4. c3k

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    And this is the AMD effect...

    A 3700x (or two) will find its way inside some of my rigs.
     
  5. cageymaru

    cageymaru [H]ard as it Gets

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    I can only see what you see. :) I will say that Digitimes has been right many, many times in the past.
     
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    Oh but if you're da bestest gaming cpu surely wouldn't need to reduce pricing eh? This is pretty funny to see after that vp statement last week.
     
  7. notarat

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    Intel: FITE ME!
    AMD: Zen2
    Intel: Shit! They're winning!
    AMD:
    Intel: Can I post in Want Ads with less than 100 posts? Please?
     
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    It'll take closer 25%-30% off to get me to reconsider the Ryzen2 or 3 build I'll be doing in the next 18 months.
     
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  9. Verado

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    This is why competition is a good thing.
    This is why I want AMD's GPU division to do better.
    So I can get muh intel and nvidia cheaper.
     
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    Amen

    I went full Intel after Bulldozer but was full AMD before that. I'm just glad there is reasonable competition in the space again.
     
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  11. DejaWiz

    DejaWiz Oracle of Unfortunate Truths

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    I did the exact same thing. AMD since the AM386SX days, all the way up until Bulldozer reviews pushed me to buying my 3770K back on its release day.

    It's relieving to have a solid choice between brands again, now that Zen2 and upcoming Zen3 are hanging just fine.
     
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  12. Ur_Mom

    Ur_Mom I'm Not Serious

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    I love Intel, but it's always about competition. They aren't going to lower their prices just to be nice to the customers. They're a business.
     
  13. ManofGod

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    I realize that you might be being sarcastic there but, if the only reason you want AMD to do better is so that you could buy the Nvidia product cheaper, than you are doing it wrong. Besides, it has only been just over 2 years since AMD started becoming competitive in the cpu space, not going to happen overnight in the GPU space, regardless of what some were hoping for.
     
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    Let me think.. I had a Cyrix P120 (100Mhz, but supposed to perform like a 120Mhz. But the performance was overstated iirc... didn't really like it. Ran into the occasional incompatible software as well.)
    Then an AMD K6 something
    Then an AMD Athlon in a slot - this died thanks to CapacitorGate and an abit mobo that took a shit and fried it and the PSU.
    Then an AMD duron I think? bare silicon chip on an nForce2 chipset mobo (loved that mobo, the onboard audio was great)
    Then an Athlon XP
    Then an Athlon 64 x2 4200. I think I eeked about 3 years out of this... but by early 2009 when I went Intel, it was slow. All the prior systems had lifespans of only 1 to 1.5 years.
    Then an Intel i7-920 2.67Ghz oc'd to 3.6Ghz on air. Ran this for 6.5 years! (Feb 2009 to Nov 2016) Was such a big upgrade at the time, so much faster. I splurged and bought 12Gb ram, ran it like that for 5 years and no swap file. upgraded to 24Gb with cheapo ram.
    Then my current build, i7-6850k oc'd to 4.0Ghz, 64Gb ram Shit luck on my oc with this one, can't even get the ddr-3467 corsair dominator ram (4 16Gb sticks) to run past 3000... need some tips. the timings defaulted to the rams' specs all except cas, which chooses 17 vs the spec'd 16, but still no boot. rampage V edition 10 hangs on post code bd, a ddr detection code.

    But these Intels have had good lifespan, and made me a fan for sure. I hope the ryzen 3k's can achieve about 4.5Ghz and finally have a competitive IPC. Might be swayed but I don't think I will need to upgrade for a few years yet (hopefully). I'll upgrade the 1080Ti likely before anything else.

    The price drops are good, need more of them.
     
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    Not even being /s
    Im rooting heavily for AMD so I can get better and/or cheaper intel and nvidia products.
     
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    Cheers to competition. The core wars and now with AMD supposedly near even in IPC. I haven't been this interested in CPUs in a very long time. Fuck you ?? quad core iterations.
     
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  18. Zarathustra[H]

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    This stuff rarely leaks before it happens.

    When I read this, I'm thinking it's Intel intentionally leaking it, essentially trying to make this argument:

    "Really Guys, cheaper and better shit is coming, don't buy AMD yet" without actually having to sacrifice anything in the way of pricing.

    It's the oldest tactic in the book. Whenever you are behind, say or do anything you can to delay the consumer buying the competitors product because you have something better/cheaper around the corner.
     
  19. ManofGod

    ManofGod [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Then you are doing it wrong. Why would AMD support you just so you can buy from someone else? That is the very attitude that causes the GPU prices to remain higher than many want them to be. Oh well, Nvidia is not going to lower their prices because you are clearly willing to pay them. As for Intel, they will reduce their prices as little as they can get away with, as well.
     
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  20. Fremunaln

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    So it has finally unofficially happened. I assume why they were practically giving away the 9700K, with Motherboard, and ram for $570 on newegg the other day lol. Prices really have started to normalize again.
     
  21. ochadd

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    If Intel ever decides to get serious about discounting they would destroy AMD momentum. If Intel adjusts pricing so the price to performance ratio is correct in the marketplace this will be another blip of a CPU release cycle. If there's still scenarios like a 7900x @ $970 like it is today there could be trouble for them.
     
  22. Grimlaking

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    We live in interesting times. (ancient Chinese curse). If amd has the ability to mark. Down their cpu's by a small margin it will be a crazy time to buy. I'm hoping for bonus season a new cpu and mobo with ram. I have the itch to go amd. 12 or 16 core.
     
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  23. [21CW]killerofall

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    He is not "doing it wrong." I am in the same boat as Verado. I have a GSync monitor that basically forces me to stay with the Nvidia cards (there is no Freesync monitor that is 1440P 165Hz IPS like my Gsync is that I am aware of and I don't want to drop more money down for a new monitor either). I want AMD and Intel to produce competitive GPUs to help drive down prices across the board so I can also benefit by the lower prices of the Nvidia GPUs. On the CPU side, I always just go with the top performer for my needs (in both cost and raw computing performance) when it is my time to upgrade and it just so happened that my last 2 CPUs were Intel (all of the others were AMD before that) and I am not upgrading my CPU for at least another year or 2 (running a 6700k).
     
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  24. Uvaman2

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    Yet its not about Intel so much, as it is speed became good enough for longer. Im still using my A8 desktop.
     
  25. Gideon

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    They wont drive that price segment down for GPU's they have learned how you have used them for this purpose. All 3 companies will be content with lower volume and high margins.
     
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  26. odditory

    odditory [H]ardness Supreme

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    Oh honey, you cant be that naive. Monolithic megacorps don't "support" anyone but their shareholders. Certainly not joe gamer wearing his red Make AMD Great Again hat.

    If AMD were in Nvidia and Intel's marketshare positions, they'd be behaving exactly the same. And would be legally obligated to do so. We already see it in the high pricing for their upcoming low-mid-tier GPUs.
     
  27. ManofGod

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    :confused:o_O(n):D Oh honey, you can't be that uninforme...... Oh wait, never mind.
     
  28. ManofGod

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    You choose to go with G Sync so suck it up buttercup, you will have to pay to play. :D :) ;) Not really my problem nor AMD's problem that you invested in the expensive solution. I choose Freesync and it has worked out well for me, as well as the AMD hardware I own for my personal machine. Basically, it is not AMD's job to support you or the competition so you can spend less on someone else.
     
  29. ManofGod

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    Bingo! If some here believed their own rhetoric about AMD just being a business in for it all for themselves, they would not be bothered by AMD pricing but shrug they shoulders and move on. If I would looking for a new card, I would seriously consider the Radeon VII or 5700XT, although the Nitro version of the Vega 64 would be a nice way to go, as well. Also, AMD is pricing their new cards at release for less than their previous cards at release and they are also faster.
     
  30. defaultluser

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    Who didn't see this one coming? No really, we've known these things were overpriced since they were released (zero price cuts versus the previous generation, just a new high for i7 and i9 prices). And now that AMD is matching the on core. count and IPC, it means price cuts!

    It's price-cuts all-around (of $50 to $100) for all the K-series processors. I could see Intel add HT to some "Emergency Edition" Core i5 9600k EE and i7 9700k EE processors (to better compete with 3600x and 3700x)?
     
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  31. JosiahBradley

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    Soon: Intel is the value brand and people are buying Intel because AMD has taken over the enthusiast market again. Also it's now the Year 2002 again.
     
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    15% is not enough. The 9900k should be $350. $400 at most if they want compete with Ryzen 2.
     
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    Do they have an non-k 9900 yet?

    One bin down on boosts, or even higher all-core boosts (at stock) and one bin down on max single-core boost, and call it a day. Make a decent 'plug-and-play' solution if they price it right.
     
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    This means that Intel is also on the hype train, which is great news.

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    In two weeks AMD's Ryzen 3000 family of processors arrive. Looks to me like Intel is concerned about the effect they may have on chip sales.
     
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    If this mean the return of Fred Durst and Limp Bizkit, I'll have to ask for the future back.
     
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    You and many of us. I don't care what I have so long as its the best bag for the buck. Had an athlon xp, opteron 165 and then jumped to Intel with the core2. Still running a i5 skylake for now it does the job.
     
  38. kirbyrj

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    Too bad AMD can't do better in the GPU space to make Nvidia pull a similar move. Oh well.
     
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    I wanna ride too...!
     
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