Teenyman45
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Intel is rolling out several different 9000 series chips at multiple market segments including eventually that refrigerator cooled 28 core LG3647 socket chip.
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My point is, basically, that they said they'd bring that to market. It's not here.
My current gaming PC is a 4770K and 1080Ti. Last January I bought a new 8700K and Gigabyte Aorus Z370 board, Ram, SD, etc but never put it together. I'm thinking about getting a 2080Ti (I game in 4K) and was wondering if I should finish the build or sell off the 8700K and Z370 board, both of which have never been opened, or upgrade again to 9900K and maybe use the Z370 board or get a new Z390 board.
GamersNexus said the 9600K and up are using "STIM," so maybe?Is the 9700k soldered too?
GamersNexus said the 9600K and up are using "STIM," so maybe?
I'd like to squeeze every frame out of the 2080Ti, so was thinking about the upgrade. Plus, once I actually finish the build, it's going to last a few years since I'm going with custom water loop. I may just upgrade the CPU and keep the Z370 MB.That's a hard one.
Long term, I'd say that swapping in the new platform would likely provide better performance for your money, but short term, the 2080Ti upgrade would probably be faster.
So it depends on how much you want to spend in the nearish future. The 8700k will last you a long, long time.
My current gaming PC is a 4770K and 1080Ti. Last January I bought a new 8700K and Gigabyte Aorus Z370 board, Ram, SD, etc but never put it together. I'm thinking about getting a 2080Ti (I game in 4K) and was wondering if I should finish the build or sell off the 8700K and Z370 board, both of which have never been opened, or upgrade again to 9900K and maybe use the Z370 board or get a new Z390 board.
Sandy Bridge @ 4.5 to 4.8 here.
I'll be upgrading this winter to the 9900k. Its very much time
Ivy Bridge at 4.6 here, so I believe it's time also since Ice Lake isn't forecast until 2020.
So are these just higher binned 8700k's?
According to Anandtech there is basically almost no difference between the Z390 and Z370 boards. Here are the differences according to their table:
Max USB 3.1 (Gen2/Gen1): 6/10 0/10
Integrated 802.11ac WiFi MAC: Y N
Integrated SDXC (SDA 3.0) Support Y N
ME Firmware: 12 11
Almost all of these improvements are basically irrelevant to gaming. I personally wouldn't buy a new board just for a few more USB 3.1 slots, an integrated wireless card, and an integrated SD card reader... Then you have to consider that the 390 series is the last board in the two board set (370 and 390) that are both good for only the 8th and 9th generations. The generation after that will require a new board altogether so I don't really think that long term swapping to the new Z390 platform will provide better value at all. I would just keep the mobo and upgrade the CPU (higher clocks and soldered TIM).
I'd like to squeeze every frame out of the 2080Ti, so was thinking about the upgrade. Plus, once I actually finish the build, it's going to last a few years since I'm going with custom water loop. I may just upgrade the CPU and keep the Z370 MB.
Wait, that says the 9900k is 3.6 base, 4.7 turbo and 2 core 5GHz.
Why is the "base" so low at 3.6? How hard is it already being pushed to go 4.7 all core turbo? Sounds suspiciously like the numbers we can all reach now with just about any 8700k.
Typically 4.7 is just about every 8700k, 4.8 requires a little thought on voltages and temps and going for 5+ requires substantial extra voltage, huge cooling and can almost never run AVX with all cores at that speed.
Admittedly, it's doing it with 2 more cores, which is great but how much headroom is left? I guess if almost all the chips will do 5GHz on all 8 cores with AVX on then it'll be a winner. Anything short of that and it'll be right on top of the 8700k on performance and not worth the extra price.
By extra price I mean the price the 8700k SHOULD be going for, $360 vs $488.
The 9700k is hard to get excited about at all. The price is good but the loss of HT makes it a lot less desirable flagship for both desktop responsiveness and games.
IINM Ryzen + X370/X470 has less PCIe 3.0 lanes. For your multi-use desktop I wouldn't really be fussy about ECC. I personally have never found a need for it. If you are building a workstation or server, then yeah, ECC is pretty much a must. But for a desktop socket 1151 box, not so much.
I've been saying that about 10nm Intel for the past two years.They're pretty decent cpu's I think. Expensive but AMD's offerings won't be quite as fast in either IPC or max clock. Next year should be fun with Rome, 7nm, and intel's 10nm (assuming they can get their crap together).
Yikes! is right but it is a 225% increase in resolution. If we compare hardware for If we can get VR with 4K though, we can probably eliminate the screen door affect. So yeah, sans a VR headset or monitor, 4k gaming is $700 or so more than 1440p gaming. However, that's okay imo.Between a $1,200 2080 Ti and $500 9900K, a top-end gaming PC this generation is a lot more expensive than the previous generation (i.e., $300 8700K/2700X + $700 1080 Ti). An increase of $700 to go from solid 1440p gaming to solid 4K gaming, not even including the cost of the monitor? Yikes!
My current gaming PC is a 4770K and 1080Ti. Last January I bought a new 8700K and Gigabyte Aorus Z370 board, Ram, SD, etc but never put it together. I'm thinking about getting a 2080Ti (I game in 4K) and was wondering if I should finish the build or sell off the 8700K and Z370 board, both of which have never been opened, or upgrade again to 9900K and maybe use the Z370 board or get a new Z390 board.
Yep, you are right, was just reviewing. I have an Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 MB, which includes Soundblaster X 720
Why would you say such a ridiculous thing? How could an 8 core 16 thread cpu be just a higher binned 6 core 12 thread cpu? Do you really not pay the least bit attention to tech? The 9900k as been talked about for months.So are these just higher binned 8700k's?
Yes, and no. I do not need to upgrade right now, so really have not looked into it much. Also more looked into the new AMD cpu's than anything. I don't need the extra few fps's from a Intel CPU that is way more expensive.Why would you say such a ridiculous thing? How could an 8 core 16 thread cpu be just a higher binned 6 core 12 thread cpu? Do you really not pay the least bit attention to tech? The 9900k as been talked about for months.
Came for the “new”, left quickly because of the refresh of a refresh of a refresh...
Intel, your taking the piss, and I at least won’t even think of buying another one of your old, and constantly rebadged CPUs until you have full hardware fixes for all your major security issues in place. Buying a CPU which is advertised as 25% faster than my ancient Haswell CPU until you put new firmware on it, and a couple of OS patches which make it only 5% faster for $300 of my hard earn money is just not gonna happen.
I never understood this. The fps you're squeezing out with that is meaningless, placebo. It will be at places where the games are not GPU bound, meaning the least complex scenes, where you're probably already getting 100+ fps with a lesser cpu too. I don't know what resolution you're playing at but if it is more than 1080p, then 99% of the time the cpu will be waiting for the gpu in modern games.I'd like to squeeze every frame out of the 2080Ti, so was thinking about the upgrade.
It really is, isn't it? 44 PCIE lanes, more USB 3.1 and freedom with board layout....
LG3647 8C is more tempeting
Not enough power pins on that thing.
To overclock that board you need a 1.21 GW PSU.
Booo.. What is this 14nm from 2014? Intel needs to get with the times..
Booo.. What is this 14nm from 2014? Intel needs to get with the times..