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Discussion in 'HardForum Tech News' started by AlphaAtlas, Jan 7, 2019.
How many pluses come after the 14 now?
I really can't see them making new dies for 9900KFs, that's wishful thinking tbh. If we were talking about mainstream laptop chips then maybe, but this is obviously just a way to recover 9900K chips with defective iGPUs.
And I'd expect them to overclock much the same unless there's also a change to the chip package, which I doubt for one chip.
The i3-9350FK seems like it could be cool, but ... not cool at all. 4C/4T at 4.0/4.6 and no IGP with a 91W TDP? What is this, 2011?
I mean, that's almost sorta similar to the Xeon generations? Ish?
Considering IGP can be disabled in motherboard BIOS, there surely has to be more to this. Unless the KF variants are cheaper than the regular K CPU's, what's the point?
So Intel can say they have done something new, innovative and refreshing - unlike their competitor.
That’s just marketing spin that we all roll our eyes at. But I’m not going to complain if it’s slightly cheaper and slightly cooler. Everyone tries to spin off their defective yields in a lessor SKU, Intel, amd, nvidia. Nothing new.
There IS a difference between the same old and truly being innovative. It's pretty clear and you can see the difference through the product lineup. The competitor HAS something different and new, this is just meh as usual.
Hey, Intel is doing you another favor gimping the i9's.
Just be happy if they run on a Z390.
edit: just came to me the KF version = the K fucked-up version.
Intel is getting desperate.
Well, I mean, it's not like they haven't released consumer iGPU-less CPUs before. There were a few P series i5s back in the Sandy/Ivy Bridge generation, as well as the i5-2550K.
They have pills for that now.
So Intel introduces "A New World Of Innovation" (their slide) and we all scoff.
Actually, it literally is all of us - that's got to be a first.
Intel really has some work to do, if not in engineering then at least in PR.
These processors do not have TSX-NI. I am getting really tired of Intel removing x, y, z in their products and then even to find the details of the processor can be a bit difficult and misleading. There have been errors in Ark and I still recall the VT-d scandal with the 3770K/Z77 bullshit where it "had" it but didn't according to Asus saying that it wasn't. Ark had that it did, and was removed later. I still have the older whitepaper stating so.
The yields don't really change w/ or w/o a IGP it's all based on the die size of the CPU itself. They could put in a chiplet CPU in place of the IGP and have just as good yields, but it may or may not be damaged in the same way the IGP would be.
14 14 plus.
More engineering, not PR.
Well, I'm impatiently awaiting AMD's conference today.
I'll sum it up:
- Gloating about their awesomeness
- Hung Out with Phil Spencer and talked gaming
- Talked with some people at a Fox studio, talked about how usefull Treadripper is.
- 7's a great number, we love the number 7.
- Showed Vega 2 based Radeon V-II(7), looks to be about RTX-2080 Performance.
- 8/16 Zen 2(Ryzen 5 3600x?) is equal to the i9-9900k in Cinebench.
- At least two dies on the substrate. A 7nm Zen2 and a 14nm IO Die
- Nothing out till after June
- Did we mention how much we love the number 7? 7nm, Ryzen 7, Radeon 7!!!
The meat of it was:
The proposed Ryzen 5 3600x is reportedly supposed to be 8/16, and at half the price of the i9-9900k delivers similar performance. That would mean that the Ryzen 3 3300x would deliver similar performance to an i7 8700k at again, half the price.
The Radeon VII, is supposed to offer RTX-2080 performance at 4k. No word on price. Rumor is $699.
Assuming you mean "confusion" sarcastically.
If not, what is so confusing about looking up your motherboard on the company website, pulling up a CPU compatibility table, and seeing if the CPU model number you want to buy is in that list. This stuff is GED level simple.
That $699 price isn't a rumor... That is straight from Lisa's mouth and the slide.