Intel Devil's Canyon: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly @ [H]

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  1. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    Intel Devil's Canyon: The Good, the Bad, the Ugly - When Intel pulled back the covers from its new Devil's Canyon enthusiast processor last week, there was one thing missing: the Devil's Canyon processors in reviewers' and enthusiasts' hands. We have now had a single Core i7-4790K engineering sample in our hands for 72 hours and this is what we have found.
     
  2. Vegas P11

    Vegas P11 [H]ard|Gawd

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    Darn, I was actually looking forward to upgrading from my I5 2500k. Guess I'll wait some more. Thanks Kyle.
     
  3. extide

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    I can't believe Intel is going around touting 5Ghz on air all over the place, when it isnt even really legit! Come on! This is BASIC Journalism crap! They will catch more flak for claiming and missing the 5Ghz mark than anything else related to this CPU/release!
     
  4. RadXge

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    The Intel representative has just confused GHZ with MHZ.
    5MHZ overlclock FTW!!
     
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    Looks like Intel took a page from the AMD Bulldozer playbook; lots of pre-launch hype and lots of dashed hopes post-launch. There are improvements but not as expected and advertised. Hoping X99 brings something worthy of a nice upgrade.
     
  7. lollerwaffle

    lollerwaffle Gawd

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    It sure is disappointing. I want to point something out; the new K chip has TSX-NI instructions, which the previous Haswell "K" parts did NOT have. Not a huge deal, but something to consider for some geeks.

    Outside of that, this is a somewhat unusual situation for Intel to be in; bragging left and right and it seems none of it holds up. That's more of an AMD thing to do.

    And really, what I really mostly hate about all this is, it was used to rope in exactly THIS audience. WE the nerds who clock shit high on a $50 aftermarket cooler, were supposed to get a cool thing. Well I am reserving judgement yet, but it doesn't look all that magical save for the Pentium buyers who will get a really cool 2-core chip for cheap and it will clock like nothing else out at the moment.

    Nice article, Kyle, thank you.
     
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  8. defaultluser

    defaultluser [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Makes me all the more certain I did the right thing upgrading to 16gb on my 2500k. Going to get another three years out of it at this rate, which makes me happy and sad.

    Meh!
     
  9. MisterHipster

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    Waiting for the new AMD core in 2016ish... :)
     
  10. TheHobbyist

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    I think they meant 4ghz. Sounds like a major disconnect from the enthusiast community. :(
     
  11. GP40X

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    Looks like I am going to just go with an i5 4670K on a MSI Gaming 5 motherboard.

    BTW Kyle, a big shout out from an old Senior Gaming League member and when ya gonna do another Texas GamExperience :confused: ;) :D
     
  12. Ultima99

    Ultima99 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Wake me up when Skylake hits...
     
  13. Bluesun311

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    The low price was too good to be true. Thanks for your hard work Kyle and crew, I very much appreciate it. I don't mean to be a d*ck but in a way I'm relieved. I wasn't reel keen on ditching my cherry picked proc over this shit and you guys have saved me the trouble. If they start kicking out better procs like it seems to me they did with Haswell, I'll have another look.
     
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    Really disappointing - I was planning on finally ditching my aging i7 930... we'll see how this pans out in the next few days before retail availability.
     
  15. djoye

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    I'm looking to upgrade from my i7-950@4.2GHz to a newer i7 either way.

    I guess I could just buy this setup and then lock it in at 4.5GHz. Surely I'll see some performance improvements... right?
     
  16. Old_Way

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    My 2700K will be going a while longer it seems. Maybe by Christmas we'll see an another opportunity for upgrading.
     
  17. Celcius

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    My 4.6ghz 2600K won't be replaced until 2015 at the earliest.
    Now that's what I call getting my money's worth :)
     
  18. evilmedic

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    For people with x58 boards core i7 9xx platforms. Hex core westmere Xeon's (5600 series) are getting cheap on the second hand market and they also overclock well (5650,5660,5670).
     
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    Well, as I'm the kind of guy that will get the Pentium to play with,,, go go Devil's Canyon!
     
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    Very disappointing what with all the hype. Just as well I suppose because my two year old Asus Z77 Pro took a dump and I RMA'd it. May as well run my 2500K a bit longer. :|
     
  21. Igg

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    Holy cow,

    That is a big bomb shell.

    Here I was hoping to do 5.5ghz on water.

    My 4.6ghz 2600K has been rock stable for ages. I guess there's no point in upgrading to haswell or devil canyon for such minimal gain right?
     
  22. JimmayLong

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    Did Intel not think hard was going to verify that bs 5 GHz claim. Come on Intel..
     
  23. ChefJoe

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    The GPU manufacturers must be loving all the enthusiasts no longer needing to upgrade the CPU and having an extra GPU upgrade or two per motherboard cycle.
     
  24. FrgMstr

    FrgMstr Just Plain Mean Staff Member

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    You and I both brother....
     
  25. Nenu

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    And I thought the enthusiast market might improve with this
    Oh well.
    Its no wonder they needed an exotic "air" cooler in their demo, they knew even then it didnt perform.
    Yet they didnt retract their performance statements.
    Loss of reputation, and what did it achieve?
     
  26. FrgMstr

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    I honestly do not understand this at all. There must have been some serious miscommunication between engineering and marketing. Either that or we need Francios to come give us some lessons. I would not doubt that some folks lose their jobs over this.
     
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    I was thinking the same.
     
  28. ep0x73

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    Guess I'll stick to my original Haswell which turbo's to 3.5 and be happy until skylake.
    It does everything I need, no issues in games with 4 cores I can't max out.
    Real world and not benchmarks the max I've seen is 60C with stock sink, not great but not terrible either.
     
  29. mdswish

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    Well damn..... Guess I'll take the $600 I was gonna spend on a new mobo and CPU and save it up for Skylake and DDR4. :(
     
  30. Entilza

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    I'll stick with me Dual Core 2 E8400, 6 years and still going strong :)

    Waiting for Skylake
     
  31. SixFootDuo

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    So ..... going from a z87 board / 4770k combo to a z97 / 4790k is a sideways upgrade. Ok, thanks.
     
  32. Cali3350

    Cali3350 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Well, now im trying to decide whether or not to get a 4670k with a z97 and just wait till Broadwell (Broadwell works with z97 right?). Since I have a 920 the 4790k is still what id get but.. meh. Not sure its worth it over the 'old' i5 right now.
     
  33. And to think I was soooo happy with everything I was hearing I would be able to upgrade my 2500k, I even had preorder button under my finger so many times at MC, I mean it's Intel right? But for whatever reason I though "I will wait for some reviews to roll in first just in case", and what do you know? Will be skipping again....
     
  34. spawn447

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    Damn , i just sold my 2700k :(
     
  35. psyclist

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    This is sad to hear, I was looking for 5Ghz...guess i will just cancel my 4790K and stick with X79 and my 3930K. It clocks to 4.5, but I was hoping to cut some power consumption and boost performance in games with DC. Sad story Intel, left a bad taste in my mouth over this PR stunt.
     
  36. mi7chy

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    Gimmick to clear out 22nm inventory before 5GHz capable 14nm ships.
     
  37. Makeroflostsouls

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    Wow really thought 5ghz+ on water , hell my old 2500k would do 5.2ghz on water @ 1.44v granted but it was stable. Going to stick with my 3930k@4.7ghz for a long time to come it looks like. Am picking up the Pentium dual core for my wife's computer and see what it does on water :) really hope I can hit 4.4ghz+ with it. Make for a nice cheap build for her to play on.
     
  38. drescherjm

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    I am not sure 14nm will be any better.
     
  39. DarkStryke

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    Looks like you're not 'skilled' enough Kyle, cause 'ol Franky says it only takes more than 30 minutes to get over 4.7ghz. I assume you must have stopped at 29 minutes of configuration testing, obviously that extra minute would have unlocked the hidden performance increases - rookie!

    Now back to reality, what a shit peddler that guy is. I can't wait for the review press at large to call out his crap. Just saved me ~700 bucks
     
  40. B2BigAl

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    Really glad I didn't wait for devils canyon/z97. No regrets on my 4770k/z87 purchase.