Intel Core i9-11900K "Rocket Lake" Boosts Up To 5.30 GHz, Say Rumored Specs

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"11th Gen Core i5 continues to be 6-core/12-thread, with Intel allegedly readying an unlocked Core i5-11600K, and a locked i5-11400. Both parts lack TVB. The i5-11600K ticks up to 4.90 GHz single-core, and 4.70 GHz all-core; while the i5-11400 does 4.20 GHz single-core, and 4.40 GHz all-core. The secret-sauce with "Rocket Lake-S" is the introduction of the new "Cypress Cove" CPU cores, which Intel claims offer a double-digit percent IPC gain over the current-gen "Comet Lake," an improved dual-channel DDR4 memory controller with native support for DDR4-3200, a PCI-Express Gen 4 root-complex, and a Gen12 Xe-LP iGPU. The "Cypress Cove" CPU cores also feature VNNI and DLBoost, which accelerate AI DNN; as well as limited AVX-512 instructions. The 11th Gen core processors will also introduce a CPU-attached M.2 NVMe slot, similar to AMD Ryzen. Intel is expected to launch its first "Rocket Lake-S" processors before Q2-2021."

https://www.techpowerup.com/275920/...-lake-boosts-up-to-5-30-ghz-say-rumored-specs
 

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Skylake V6?!

I never thought I'd see the day.
Zen3's only only a bit faster than "outdated" Skylake, and AMD’s official number for 5950x is “5%” faster, owing much of that to PCIE 4.0. Rocket Lake with new arch and PCIE 4.0 will make short work of it. Leaks showing 10-11% IPC boost, Intel claiming "double-digits" officially.

While the FOMO herd is fighting over Zen3 and you can't find a CPU in stock, Rocket Lake could be a great or even superior alternative - especially for gaming focused builds, and if they can get them out in sufficient numbers.
 
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Zen3 is only a tiny bit faster than outdated Skylake, and AMD’s official number for 5950x is “5%” faster, owing much of that to PCIE 4.0. Rocketlake with new arch and PCIE 4.0 will make short work of it. Leaks showing 10-11% IPC boost.

While the FOMO herd is fighting over Zen3 and you can't even find a CPU in stock, Rocket Lake is looking spicy as a great or even superior alternative - especially if they can get them out in sufficient numbers, unlike TSMC-constrained AMD.
Who is taking about amd?

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Do they pay you to say that?
 
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I'm just curious what Tjunction will be. Think they'll go over 100C before throttling? How many more 14nm++++++ generations until they start glowing cherry red at full load and Intel drops the Core iX naming scheme and switches back to something faux-Latinish like Duranium 1500, 2500, 3500, etc.? I'm also wondering if there will be an i9-119590FXE (extreme edition with no integrated graphics) with a 220W TDP in the next batch. I'm actually hoping they do something like that and make the "Extreme Edition" a gaming chip again. On the up side, Intel didn't spin off their fabs and they'll be using the same process and equipment they've been using for years so at least we'll probably be able to get them.
 

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I'm just curious what Tjunction will be. Think they'll go over 100C before throttling? How many more 14nm++++++ generations until they start glowing cherry red at full load and Intel drops the Core iX naming scheme and switches back to something faux-Latinish like Duranium 1500, 2500, 3500, etc.? I'm also wondering if there will be an i9-119590FXE (extreme edition with no integrated graphics) with a 220W TDP in the next batch. I'm actually hoping they do something like that and make the "Extreme Edition" a gaming chip again. On the up side, Intel didn't spin off their fabs and they'll be using the same process and equipment they've been using for years so at least we'll probably be able to get them.

I would assume around 95C (perhaps abit lower) there is no reason to keep it that high as you already have cooling issues if its getting there. Most silicon isnt too happy over 105C or so
 

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Zen3 is only a tiny bit faster than "outdated" Skylake, and AMD’s official number for 5950x is “5%” faster, owing much of that to PCIE 4.0. Rocket Lake with new arch and PCIE 4.0 will make short work of it. Leaks showing 10-11% IPC boost, Intel also laiming "double-digits".

While the FOMO herd is fighting over Zen3 and you can't even find a CPU in stock, Rocket Lake could be a great or even superior alternative - especially for gaming focused builds, and if they can get them out in sufficient numbers.

Disclosure: I've been trying to put together a 5900x build for weeks.
5% faster in games but at lower res it lays the smack down on comet lake pretty hard

Easily 15% faster at single core and what, 100% faster when all cores are utilized? what's rocket lake going to do again?
 

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Zen3 is only a tiny bit faster than "outdated" Skylake, and AMD’s official number for 5950x is “5%” faster, owing much of that to PCIE 4.0. Rocket Lake with new arch and PCIE 4.0 will make short work of it. Leaks showing 10-11% IPC boost, Intel also laiming "double-digits".

While the FOMO herd is fighting over Zen3 and you can't even find a CPU in stock, Rocket Lake could be a great or even superior alternative - especially for gaming focused builds, and if they can get them out in sufficient numbers.

Disclosure: I've been trying to put together a 5900x build for weeks.
Ya, No it won't be in stock at launch just like everything else. Until Intel comes out with their chiplet design it doesn't matter because AMD will come out with AM5 with DDR5 support next year.
 

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I am really interested in seeing rocket lake with Xe graphics compared to Zen2/Zen3 with Vega.

but that they’re still on 14nm, over 6 years since Broadwell launched that node... it reminds me of the power draw / heat output of last generation of AMD FX processors. The longer they are sitting on 14nm the more it’s going to be a disadvantage. (I assume that “required cooling” eventually factors into oem design decisions.)

Tiger Lake on mobile seems better off, though. I guess they just don’t have the capacity to spare for desktop parts?
 

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I am really interested in seeing rocket lake with Xe graphics compared to Zen2/Zen3 with Vega.

but that they’re still on 14nm, over 6 years since Broadwell launched that node... it reminds me of the power draw / heat output of last generation of AMD FX processors. The longer they are sitting on 14nm the more it’s going to be a disadvantage. (I assume that “required cooling” eventually factors into oem design decisions.)

Tiger Lake on mobile seems better off, though. I guess they just don’t have the capacity to spare for desktop parts?
It will be like 4 years before intel is competitive again with AMD. They have plenty of cash to ride this down wave.
 

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Agreed thank you! If you want maximum top end performance in gaming, it's intel.

Seem like a maybe, by the time that it make a significant difference (say the next generation of video card or 2) isn't there a remote chance that some title start to utilise more than 6 core in some way and give a 5800x and above a chance ?
 

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isn't there a remote chance that some title start to utilise more than 6 core
I think if you're on a long-term buy cycle than 8c is probably a minimum requirement, but if you're on a more incremental upgrade cycle than a high-performance 6c will serve better than a slower 8c CPU, if you replace it when it becomes less relevant.

I'm sure there will be titles that seriously benefit from more cores, with consoles setting many gaming standards, but with the PS5 and Xbox Series running at under 4GHz, a 5+GHz handling 12 threads will be able to at least keep up with slower 16-threaded CPUs, probably for the life of this generation, while out-performing on games that are single thread-limited.

This may actually be a compelling part from Intel. I think pricing and availability will be very important, though. And whether or not gaming is your sole focus.

Also whether or not a 125W CPU matters compared to what, 65W?
 

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I think if you're on a long-term buy cycle than 8c is probably a minimum requirement, but if you're on a more incremental upgrade cycle than a high-performance 6c will serve better than a slower 8c CPU, if you replace it when it becomes less relevant.

I'm sure there will be titles that seriously benefit from more cores, with consoles setting many gaming standards, but with the PS5 and Xbox Series running at under 4GHz, a 5+GHz handling 12 threads will be able to at least keep up with slower 16-threaded CPUs, probably for the life of this generation, while out-performing on games that are single thread-limited.

This may actually be a compelling part from Intel. I think pricing and availability will be very important, though. And whether or not gaming is your sole focus.
Also whether or not a 125W CPU matters compared to what, 65W?

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How many more 14nm++++++ generations until they start glowing cherry red at full load and Intel drops the Core iX naming scheme and switches back to something faux-Latinish like Duranium 1500, 2500, 3500, etc.?
Devil's advocate: 14nm++++ is the meme, but Intel 14nm is almost the same size as TSMC 7nm. Process node is a marketing term.

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"The 14 nm transistor isn't 14 nm in width, and the 7 nm transistor isn't 7 nm wide. The naming of the node and actual size of the node have had a departure a long time ago, and the naming convention is really up to the manufacturer - it's become more of a marketing gimmick than anything else"

Intel 14 nm Node Compared to TSMC's 7 nm Node Using Scanning Electron Microscope

On the up side, Intel didn't spin off their fabs and they'll be using the same process and equipment they've been using for years so at least we'll probably be able to get them.

It certainly seems to be working for them. Consider the 10600k - A $270 CPU that's always in stock, already hangs in with Zen 3 at gaming. 14nm means that Intel has high margins and supply compared to AMD. With 11th gen they're going to use that to give Zen 3 a bad time. Intel has the kind of war-chest that would let them practically give away CPUs if that's what it took.
 
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I was just going to say this.... rumors are that the next generation Kenner Easy-Bake Oven uses a next-gen Intel chip to provide the baking heat ;)
/weren't some 10th gen chips melting through motherboard pcb's already?
 

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