Wow, not sure if I'm happy or upset with Intel.
I was sure Intel was sandbagging because of lack of AMD competition.
Now it looks like they were not. I was expecting a 15% IPC increase to be real. Silly me.
I think I will still get an 8700k since it is still going to be the fastest single threaded CPU around.
They were sandbagging, on the MT and price front for sure. Whether or not they are able to improve IPC, it certainly couldn't be done overnight since AMD just jumped back into the game.
I think its time for them to quit their power efficiency vacation now that they have competition again and get back into performance mode. If it's possible that is.
Its just a core i5 7600 with two extra cores strapped on and thats exactly how it performs !!
There will be no Cannonlake-S parts. The next desktop processor from Intel will be Icelake, which should be dropping sometime in the second half of next year. Icelake also happens to be the next new architecture in Intel's PAO cycle.Won't this only be relevant for 6-9 months? Cannonlake and a new motherboard socket will be out next year.
If you were going to upgrade to a 7700k this seems like a good choice instead as you get more cores and threads. From a value or longevity/upgrade-ability position it's a non-starter.
Keep in mind the $359 price is for buying 1000 units or more, price will be higher for average retail.
I ran those benchmarks over and over and over and could not get CL to squeek out a win.I don't think Coffee Lake is slower than Kaby. If you put in some error bars in, it could fall within the margin of error. I was looking forward to better IPC, but now I'm leaning towards Ryzen, especially if the prices on the 1700X drop.
Because they use stock vs stock..duuuuuuuh
Oh, so you think you are funny, hey wiseguy?
Unfortunately I think you are right on here.
Ordered my 8700K, £359.99! ($472.61 USD).
Now I will start to look at reviews of mobos.
I'm thinking mATX, since anything more than 2 GPUs is over.
Civilization threads better
AotS obviously does as well
Looking at the tests, hmm
Not sure anyone is 480p gaming
It' just to remove the GPU as bottleneck or we wouldn't see diference
Maybe you mean 1080p
If people where playing AotS with Ryzen at 1080p, then those frames would be high enough for high refresh rate gaming as well
Except I'm not sure people play AotS
Found it personally a boring RTS
Stock Pentium G4560 3.5 GHz (stock), equals or beats i7 8700K 5.0 GHz (OC) in 4K gaming!
Those charts are useless to determine a difference in CPU performance
To me they are all the same performance in all those charts
Within an error of margin
Playing in 4k means you're obviously GPU limited
But I would not be surprised if you picked them on purpose
It could not be that Intel has basically paper-launched a new multicore product that it was not ready to put into the marketplace in order impact AMD sales could it?This looks like a good purchase for me as a 1080p 240Hz monitor user. Too bad I just can't find anywhere to purchase it. There's one site only that I find it listed as we speak in my home country Finland but it's grossly overpriced at 433 € (and here you guys were badmouthing Newegg for its slight tax premium HAH!)
I also looked elsewhere in other countries but amazon here is a no show and German sites has also very bad availability and what's worse they somehow do not seem to ship abroad anymore... was still possible the time I considered a 7700K upgrade...
Sucks to be a finnish computer hardware enthusiast in this day, times are the worst in my lifetime for number of reasons, mining driven GPU prices insane, DDR4 pricing is horrible, availability of stuff is horrible, no countries seems to wanna ship here anymore. Feels like Finland has turned into a hardware 3rd world country as of late.
But we can thank Intel for big price cuts coming to AMD
Come on, Kyle. If (say) Ryzen 2 shows significant IPC gains, I'm sure Intel will rediscover how to do the same.
Any of the higher mainstream processors lose their effectiveness when used for gaming above 1080p (unless you are using a 1080Ti and 1440p) Once you hit 3440x1440 or 4k it doesn't matter all that much.
Same goes if you have a 7700k or 8700k and a G4560 and you are using a GTX1060 (or lower) at 1080p they will perform the same.
While it's great to be comparing the options we have now in the end it really depends on your whole system and use case.
True, but I'm going for a CPU that gives me best single thread performance overall.
This will complement my other pc with lots of threads well.