In News That We've All Been Waiting For - More Star Wars Movies

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  1. Kinsaras

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    Wow I had no idea they were so close to bringing Revan in before. Thanks for a new hope!
     
  2. zamardii12

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    With Disney's latest calendar of movies this train is not ending anytime soon...

    The Art of Racing the Rain - 08/9/19

    Ready or Not- 08/23/19

    Ad Astra - 9/20/19

    The Woman in the Window - 10/4/19

    Maleficent: Mistress of Evil - 10/18/19

    Ford v. Ferrari - 11/15/19

    Frozen 2- 11/22/19

    Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker - 12/20/19

    Underwater - 01/10/20

    Kingsman: The Great Game - 02/14/20

    Call of the Wild - 02/21/20

    Onward - 03/06/20

    Mulan - 03/27/20

    The New Mutants - 04/03/20

    Untitled MCU Film - 05/01/20

    Artemis Fowl - 05/29/20

    Untitled Pixar Film - 06/29/20

    Free Guy - 07/03/20

    Bob's Burgers Film - 07/17/20

    Jungle Cruise - 07/24/20

    The One and Only Ivan - 08/14/20

    Death on the Nile - 10/09/20

    Untitled MCU Film - 11/06/20

    Ron's Gone Wrong - 11/06/20

    Untitled Disney Animation Film - 11/25/20

    West Side Story - 12/18/20

    Cruella - 12/23/20

    Untitled MCU Film - 02/12/21

    Nimona - 03/05/21

    Untitled Disney Live Action - 03/12/21

    Untitled MCU Film - 05/07/21

    Untitled Pixar Film - 06/18/21

    Untitled Indiana Jones Film - 07/09/21

    Untitled MCU Film - 11/05/21

    Avatar 2 - 12/17/21

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    Untitled MCU Film - 05/06/22

    Untitled Pixar Film - 06/17/22

    Untitled MCU Film - 07/29/22

    Untitled Disney Animated Film - 11/23/22

    Untitled Star Wars Film - 12/16/22

    Avatar 3 - 12/22/23

    Untitled Star Wars Film - 12/20/24

    Avatar 4 - 12/19/25

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    Avatar 5 - 12/17/27
     
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  3. lostin3d

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    It'd be nice if one of those untitled films went along these lines:

     
  4. Dekoth-E-

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    Well they didn't fire the broad that ruined it with all the social justice bullshit, soooo I'm going to say Pass.
     
  5. Aireoth

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    Never doubt Disney's ability to ruin franchises.
     
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    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    As long as Marvel Pictures is making a boat-load of money the rest of Disney is going to remain hands-off. If Feige ever leaves that would likely end up being a really bad sign for the MCU.
     
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    Problem with GoT is they ran out of books. That's why it went down hill
     
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  8. Derangel

    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    Mhm. D&D are not GRRM. They're not bad writers, but they're writing style is obviously not the same as GRRM and it does radically alter the tone and pacing (and characters, in a lot of cases). I've seen creative teams handle getting beyond the source material and needing to find a way to finish the story done a lot worse than GOT (happens quite often with anime), but I've also seen it done better.
     
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  9. Aireoth

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    I am a doubter, they have consumed the best comic plot lines already, and modern (Marvel) comics have shown lackluster writing/plot quality. Now that endgame is over the MCU is at its greatest risk of collapse since the late 2000’s.
     
  10. Derangel

    Derangel [H]ard as it Gets

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    Modern Marvel is slowly improving, but there are still older stories they can borrow from. The Russo's have even teased Secret Wars being a possibility in the future. With Far From Home setting up a multiverse that opens up a lot of story opportunities. They've got the F4 and X-Men now so that gives them major villains like Dr. Doom, Galactus, Magneto, the Brotherhood, Sinister, Apoc, the Hellfire Club. They're doing an Eternals movie, that opens up a lot of god-level cosmic stuff to work with. As crap as AvX was in comic form, its an idea they could adapt in the MCU (Civil War proved that a bad comic event could be turned into a great movie). Annihilation is something they could adapt for a cosmic storyline. If they can get Sony on board with more Spidy stuff there is a ton of stuff to draw from there. I doubt they'd try to adapt it, but Age of Apocalypse is a thing they could draw from. Ditto for House of M. They could adapt a variation of Johnathan Hickman's 2015 Secret Wars (the one where Doom recreates the universe). They could even draw from bad events like the Clone Saga or Civil War II and rework them to make them a lot better.
     
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    especially heath ledger?
     
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    Judging by the quality of the GoT writing once they outpaced GRRM's content I would not bank on these films being very good...yikes.
     
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    ftfy
     
  14. polonyc2

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    Now we know...the next Star Wars film coming in 2022 will be from the showrunners of Game of Thrones and not the new trilogy announced by Lucasfilm that’s being developed by The Last Jedi director Rian Johnson...Disney Chairman and CEO Robert Iger dropped the news Tuesday morning...

    https://ew.com/movies/2019/05/14/next-star-wars-film-game-of-thrones-showrunners/
     
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    Hopefully they learn a lesson from the last season of GoT, probably not though.
     
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    All signs point to it being Benioff/Weiss Old Republic trilogy. Rian Johnson is in some seriously hot water after the epic failure that was Last Jedi, which was evidenced by JJ Abrams taking over episode 9 and George Lucas was brought in for consulting. The Neo FemiNazi in charge is also getting flak too, but less so than Johnson.
     
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    that's a great setting so things are already looking good...Benioff/Weiss know how to do epic action set-pieces so with a bigger budget they will definitely create some nice eye candy...let's just hope they have gotten better with their writing as the quality of GoT has gone down ever since they passed the books...
     
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    i don't think the writings that bad, i think it's mostly a pacing issue.. trying to fit 2-3 episodes worth of content into an hour long episode is what i think is ruining some of the writing. for example
    the white walker battle should of easily been two episodes, episode 5 should of been 2 episodes minimum with 1 episode being post white walker battle, then another episode with the lead up to what took place in episode 5 instead of mashing it all into episode 4.. it just feels like HBO's done dealing with GoT and want it finished as soon as possible after GRRM failed to meet his end of the deal by having this next book finished before they got to season 7.
     
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    If they hire those writers, then there is some hope it won't suck.
     
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    I feel like one of the major problems with this season is that they’re trying to cram two or three seasons of material into a handful of episodes. The plot turns aren’t bad themselves but they’re not developed properly. The twist in the abysmal last episode would have worked fine if it was done differently and had more build to it.

    Nothing could save the death of those two characters though. That was just shitty writing.
     
  21. polonyc2

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    it's both the pacing and writing but I agree that everything feels rushed...here's an excellent article detailing the S8 issues...

    In my estimation, pacing is the reason for the final season's issues...this and this alone is the reason for the tepid reaction to this entire season of Thrones...the problem isn’t with what is happening...it’s with how it’s happening...on paper, it looks great to say Daenerys will become fueled by jealousy, just like her older brother Viserys became in season one when he saw the Dothraki idolizing his sister instead of himself...it looks great to say she’ll descend to 'The Mad Queen' status much like her father...it looks great on paper to say Cersei and Jaime will die in the cells of the Red Keep, with the castle they fought and schemed for literally and metaphorically collapsing atop them...and it looks great on paper to say that, in the end, the real war won’t be between the living and the dead or between Daenerys and Cersei, but instead will be between aunt and nephew

    The problem is, each of these transformations of character weren’t given the time they deserve to occur naturally...time became the antagonist...where the characters have ended up with one final episode left is fine...it’s believable on paper...however, in execution, it’s hard to believe that Daenerys would transform from liberator and hero to malicious murderer over the course of two episodes...

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/apos-game-thrones-apos-episode-144800999.html
     
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    Disney confirmed yesterday they got David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.
     
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    Benoiff was one of the writers behind X-Men Origins: Wolverine.....
     
  24. Derangel

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    Along with 25th Hour, Kite Runner, and Brothers. The writers of Endgame wrote all the Narnia films, Cap 1, and Thor: The Dark World. David Goyer was a writer on all three Nolan Batman movies and yet he wrote absolute dogshit like Blade Trinity, Batman vs Superman, and the Hasslehoff Nick Fury movie. David Schow wrote both the Crow and Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning. Good writers write bad movies, bad writers write good movies. According to the director, Gavin Hood, there was a lot of studio interference. So, who knows what was changed and exactly how much of either writers work was retained. According to Ryan Reynolds they didn't even have a completed script when shooting began. The original plan was supposedly to make a much darker, R-rated, movie. So, who the heck knows what Benoiff's scripts looked like once upon a time.
     
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    Yes and it is a bad hire. After Game of Thrones season 4, the show went downhill and that is because Benioff and Weiss diverged from the source material. The show turned from great \ something new into something Hollywood would make. The two of them decided to do their own stuff and characters went out of character, tons of plot holes appeared, consistency disappeared, and suspension of disbelief was killed in many of the scenes. The original writer (GRRM) of the books which the show is based on wasn't happy about it either. Seasons 7 and 8 were really bad.

    I don't have much faith in them doing Star Wars well.
     
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    Ya shitty writing it was but at least they could have did the transition better. HBO offered much longer seasons to flesh out the stories. Benioff and Weiss refused. Im guessing they wanted to finish it fast and move on to Star Wars.
     
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    Considering that they're past where he's written that's not entirely unexpected. They probably should have waited until he was done writing before they adapted it to TV to avoid this entirely.
     
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    Reminds me of a great Stephen King quote which I think also separates good writers from not so good: "Story follows character. Character does not follow story".

    When you try to bend the train tracks to an outcome that isn't decided until later on, you end up with a corrupted mess.