If Steve Jobs Were Alive, He Would Fire Tim Cook

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I hate to break it to Forbes but, as much as they wish otherwise, Steve Jobs is still dead. By the way, Tim Cook is doing fine.

While Apple continues to dominate, the not-so-slow erosion of its culture under Tim Cook rolls on. As competent as they might be as executives, Johnson and Cook are both classic characters out of an MBA textbook. They have no business leading companies like Apple or orchestrating wholesale transformations that require otherworldly vision.
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It's going to be a long time before the name Steve Jobs is forgotten.
 
^ Unfortunate, but true.
Whatever, he's dead, move on Forbes. :rolleyes:
 
Because apologizing for mistakes and fixing mistakes/bugs instead of calling them features is bad business ethic... right. He seems to be doing well enough.
 
Pretty stupid. The article is based on the premise that Jobs' own performance at Apple was flawless. That isn't anywhere near the case. His successes simply outweighed his failures. So far, that's been the case with Cook as well. Every high-level Apple employee's probably has as many failures in their careers as they've had successes.

Sometimes it seems like these writers first come up with a grabbing headline, then write the content in such a way as to try and validate that headline as a truth. Usually it should be the other way around.
 
Bleh, he lost me when he tried to compare apple products to sex and pizza. When will these fanboys learn that Apple never innovate? They simply redesign/re-image something and sell it to the wannabe snobs of society for a ridiculous amount.
 
Marlfox said:
Because apologizing for mistakes and fixing mistakes/bugs instead of calling them features is bad business ethic... right. He seems to be doing well enough.
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Yes it is bad business for Apple. Apple sells based on propaganda and an image of perfection.
 
I don't think he'd fire Cook. The mistake would have been Jobs' for not starting Apple Maps sooner. Look at Nokia. They saw the righting on the way 5 years and 8 billions dollars ago.
 
Steve would have not fired him for just a software maps problem. It would have had to be something major like taking the whole company down a dead end product line launch.

I do like that article quote "On his death bed, Steve Jobs apparently told Tim Cook something like Don’t ask what I would do, just do what’s right". Steve made his share of mistakes, and really when you look at it, it's really how you learn from them get right back up and continue foward.

If Apple fixes the map app and makes it better than google maps ever was, everyone will be forgetting all the complaints like they never happened. Or if they do it the Microsoft way and sit on their hands til iPhone 6, then maybe Cook does deserve to be fired...
 
I read on the blog that I write that Forbes is upset over the people on [H] doubting them so they hired a crack team of specialists including Cleo, Zefram Cochrane, and Mumm-Ra to raise him from th dead so he can affirm the validity of their article. So yeah, when Zombie Jobs runs around eating your faces, don't say that SkribbelKat didn't warn you. :mad:
 
colinstu said:
Seriously? Just like Edison is a household name, Jobs won't be going away either.
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Edison isn't a household name and, I suspect most 'youts' couldn't tell you about him without Google. For many, Steve Jobs wasn't and isn't a household name either.
 
If Steve Jobs were alive today he'd be all "Help, let me out of the box!"

Pretty sure he was cremated, but still. :D
 
Magnus said:
Edison isn't a household name and, I suspect most 'youts' couldn't tell you about him without Google. For many, Steve Jobs wasn't and isn't a household name either.
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Edison was drilled into my brain every year of grade school.

I don't see it being different for Jobs and kids of the very near future.
 
Magnus said:
Edison isn't a household name and, I suspect most 'youts' couldn't tell you about him without Google. For many, Steve Jobs wasn't and isn't a household name either.
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I was reading an article a couple of months ago that said Steve Jobs will eventually fade into obscurity. However, Bill Gates will always be remembered for his very large charitable contributions to society.

linky if you wanna read: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_...jobs-will-be-forgotten-bill-gates-remembered/
 
Saw this article earlier today. It's not like botched products weren't released when Steve Jobs was CEO and directing products. This is no different than the ipod nano battery issue or the iphone4 antenna issue, or any of the other design issues that have arisen with Apple during their popular years (mouse pod anyone?).

"If Steve Jobs Were Alive, He'd Be alive" is what the title should be. It's just a troll piece.

And that's said as someone with a general dislike of Steve Jobs the person and/or the vision, and doesn't really like Apple as a company all that much.
 
Marlfox said:
Because apologizing for mistakes and fixing mistakes/bugs instead of calling them features is bad business ethic... right. He seems to be doing well enough.
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Hell. It was Jobs himself who said "You're holding it wrong."
 
colinstu said:
Edison was drilled into my brain every year of grade school.

I don't see it being different for Jobs and kids of the very near future.
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The thought of teaching children that Jobs was as important to society as Edison was is an insult to Edison.
 
Blown Cap said:
The thought of teaching children that Jobs was as important to society as Edison was is an insult to Edison.
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Indeed. Although i'd take jobs over edison, as edison was a back stabbing idea thief. Sure jobs had his issues, but he didn't bald faced steal other peoples ideas and dare them to do something about it. Wait, apple DOES do that...Hmmmm....
 
Tweak42 said:
If Apple fixes the map app and makes it better than google maps ever was, everyone will be forgetting all the complaints like they never happened.
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Never going to happen, Google has too much of a head start.
 
Blown Cap said:
The thought of teaching children that Jobs was as important to society as Edison was is an insult to Edison.
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Jobs *is* the modern-day Edison, and there's no way Edison would be insulted if he were alive to hear it, so why should anyone else think it's an insult?

Both Jobs and Edison were brilliant businessmen and entrepreneurs, neither was really an inventor or a creator.

They took the ideas of others, tried to quash superior alternatives before they could gain traction, and ultimately were successful as a result of excellent marketing.

Edison was a scumbag who advanced the state of consumer technology at the turn of the 20th century. Jobs was a scumbag who advanced the state of consumer technology at the turn of the 21st century.

As for the original article, I take serious issue with the author's contention that Apple doesn't make bad products. It makes tolerable products at best, which usually have some party piece that is genuinely useful, and a very polished user experience. They dominate market share with inferior products (just like Edison did!), but their focus on ease of use over functionality makes them accessible to a wide audience.

Apple makes great hardware that is shackled by mediocre software. The new Retina MacBooks are great, but OS-X is awful. The new iPhone is a fantastic handset, but iOS 6 is a joke in comparison to Android 4. The new iPad is basically the same story as the iPhone. The nice thing about the RMBs is that you can BootCamp a more useful software package onto them, which is not possible with their iOS platforms. An iPhone or iPad running Android 4 would be a drastically superior product, and worth spending money on.
 
Slurpy said:
One of the things I like about Forbes is that their contributors snipe back and forth at each other all the time.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspe...obs-would-have-released-apple-maps-and-ios-6/
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Good article, makes me laugh at Forbes even more, but also makes me realise how much I love Google Maps even more.

Interesting write up and probably the most truthful you will ever read on the internet in regards to either Steve, Cook or Apple as a whole. Masters of the long term at the expense of some short term loss.
 
Tanis143 said:
Bleh, he lost me when he tried to compare apple products to sex and pizza. When will these fanboys learn that Apple never innovate? They simply redesign/re-image something and sell it to the wannabe snobs of society for a ridiculous amount.
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Exactly, I've long said that Steve Jobs biggest accomplishment wasn't the release of the iphone, it was convincing people that it was the cool thing to have and getting the fanatics to believe that defects were features

Simply put, Steve Jobs was a modern day snake oil salesman.
 
The bad decision was to mainstream Apple's maps without Google App as a backup. The problem is that they tried to force feed something onto their consumers. Right now they're not the only ones trying to force feed their consumers. The whole social media personal electronics fad is going to start to die from the force feeding turning customers off the whole thing.
 
SkribbelKat said:
I read on the blog that I write that Forbes is upset over the people on [H] doubting them so they hired a crack team of specialists including Cleo, Zefram Cochrane, and Mumm-Ra to raise him from th dead so he can affirm the validity of their article. So yeah, when Zombie Jobs runs around eating your faces, don't say that SkribbelKat didn't warn you. :mad:
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Fucking SkribbelKat...moving from trollololing to Zombie Apocalypse starting...
 
Blown Cap said:
The thought of teaching children that Jobs was as important to society as Edison was is an insult to Edison.
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Jobs will be venerated as one of the most important men of the 20th-21st century, granted that Apple continues on. Even upon Apple's demise his veneration will continue along the lines of Henry Ford and, yes, Thomas Edison -- somewhere in between, in fact. This is how society has always worked. Time and efficiency will leave out the more complex details, and people will know him as a quasi-mythical figure.
 
Magnus said:
Edison isn't a household name and, I suspect most 'youts' couldn't tell you about him without Google. For many, Steve Jobs wasn't and isn't a household name either.
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Edison is a household name, in any house that's not full of High school dropouts or crack whores. seriously, anyone that went to a decent school was taught about him. they may not know his shoe size, or give a damn about what he did in life, but that have heard of him.


Much like Steve Jobs.
 
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