i5-7600k to Ryzen 5 5600x worth the upgrade?

AjFreimuth

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I recently got rid of my consoles and am starting to get into PC gaming again. I'm currently running the rig in my signature below.

With GPU prices still being crazy I was going to upgrade my CPU/Mobo for now and hope at some point to get a current gen GPU.

So with keeping my current GTX 1070, and ram, PSU, and storage, but planning on upgrading GPU at some point. Is it worth it or would I get a decent performance boost going from my i5-7600k to a Ryzen 5 5600x?

Edit: Or is my i5-7600k still good enough for gaming and maybe look at selling my GTX 1070 and getting a new GPU first?
 

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I recently got rid of my consoles and am starting to get into PC gaming again. I'm currently running the rig in my signature below.

With GPU prices still being crazy I was going to upgrade my CPU/Mobo for now and hope at some point to get a current gen GPU.

So with keeping my current GTX 1070, and ram, PSU, and storage, but planning on upgrading GPU at some point. Is it worth it or would I get a decent performance boost going from my i5-7600k to a Ryzen 5 5600x?

Edit: Or is my i5-7600k still good enough for gaming and maybe look at selling my GTX 1070 and getting a new GPU first?
If I found myself in that position I would work at acquiring a new GPU first. Depending on your budget and patience level it may take awhile. After you have that, try and get mobo/cpu to go with it. Finding a capable second hand combo should be attainable in the event you are bottlenecked.

But you take that 1070 and mate it with like a ryzen 3600, we know where the weak link is....
 

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Depends what game you are playing.

If all you are going to do is play CSGO and Dota2, then the 7600K is still plenty.

If your machine is that old, also consider a 1080p/144hz monitor or a 1440p/144hz monitor on your next GPU/CPU upgrade.
 

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In today's market that gpu is more than acceptable for 1080/120hz.
In Control the game that I was playing when I upgraded from the 7700k to
a Ryzen 2600. The frame rate normalized during heavy action sequences, even though I had my backup 970 instead of the 1070 attached to my previous build.
 

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I think overall, you'd benefit from moving from 4c/4t to 6c/12t on a more modern architecture. I'm not going to say every game is going to benefit, but your CPU will be less of a bottleneck in the future, especially if you keep it a while.
 

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8c/16t if you're gonna "upgrade" 5800x should hold you till next console generation. Both modern consoles have 8c zen2 procs and I'm sure by the end of the generation they'll be squeezing every last drop of performance they can get out of those chips. I'd hate to have to spend that much money again just to get two more cores. It's more economical to spend the extra couple bucks now and be done with it
 

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Picked up my new items.

Got everything installed but can't get the system to boot post bios.

It seems both my M.2 drive and my other storage in bios. But if hit F11 for boot menu the only option is to enter the bios doesn't list the drivers at all.
 

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8c/16t if you're gonna "upgrade" 5800x should hold you till next console generation. Both modern consoles have 8c zen2 procs and I'm sure by the end of the generation they'll be squeezing every last drop of performance they can get out of those chips. I'd hate to have to spend that much money again just to get two more cores. It's more economical to spend the extra couple bucks now and be done with it
It will be 8 year's now that both console have 8 core cpus this November it will be 15 year's that Sony console are 8 cores and I imagine that in 2006 and 2013 people did worry on the issue of gaming with less 8 cores because consoles did. A one point it will be true but I am not sure the link between the 2 will be has strong has people will say (or at least it will have took a very long time). It would still be going from 4T to 12T in his case.

I would imagine that multithread performance is the variable to look at over core counting (a 5600x could very well stay faster than a 3900x outside perfect parallelizable work load like game are maybe forever, same for an higher clocked 5900x over a 5950)
 

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Got it up and running. Turns out even though I thought Windows would be fine. I had to format and reinstall windows. Now everything is up and running.
I'm going to guess it was something to do with the compatibility support module (CSM) being turned off by default. If you set that to enabled, it would probably have let you boot.

But a clean install never hurt anyone ;D

Congrats on the upgrade! i5 7th gen to a 5600X is no small upgrade for the tasks that can use it.
 

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It will be 8 year's now that both console have 8 core cpus this November it will be 15 year's that Sony console are 8 cores and I imagine that in 2006 and 2013 people did worry on the issue of gaming with less 8 cores because consoles did. A one point it will be true but I am not sure the link between the 2 will be has strong has people will say (or at least it will have took a very long time). It would still be going from 4T to 12T in his case.

I would imagine that multithread performance is the variable to look at over core counting (a 5600x could very well stay faster than a 3900x outside perfect parallelizable work load like game are maybe forever, same for an higher clocked 5900x over a 5950)
those weren't ZEN2 8 cores
 

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Got it up and running. Turns out even though I thought Windows would be fine. I had to format and reinstall windows. Now everything is up and running.
Congrats. How do you fell after the upgrade. Worth it, after the honey moon period? :)
 

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And ? If a game engine is able to parallelize workload does it matter if they are jaguar, zen2 or intel core ? Has long has how memory sharing and thread are similar.
if you don't think they will be using every ounce of juice they can squeeze out of those 8 core zen2's by the end of the console generation, i have a bridge to sell you.

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if you don't think they will be using every ounce of juice they can squeeze out of those 8 core zen2's by the end of the console generation, i have a bridge to sell you.

That a completely different conversation, the point being that parralisation of computation of games has been a very long ungoing way (at least since Xbox had a 3 cpu dev platform in the early 2000 ?), including trying to use at least 8 core, when it will become common it would not necessarily have been that would the PS4 continue for way longer that they would not have achieve to use those 8 core and the advantage translate. And if 8 core help you on Ryzen it will on the intel side has well.

I would yes be quite surprised if by 2027 (if we go by the average console generation lifetime) if a 8 core zen 2 will not be well squeezed, maybe even a 12 core one, but will not be surprised if the faster 6 cores still beat them.

If you look at a video:



It is not like there a big usage on 16 thread going, seem to maxing 8 of them, something they would have tried to do on the previous console gen has well no ? People have been saying that about 8 core cpu for a giant amount of time saying console for a reason and after a while it will happen, but I am sure many said the same with the PS4 release.
 
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It's not that game developers can't take advantage of multi-core, it's that games have complex interactions that are not easy to parallel.

I mean, it's not impossible, but it might not have many gains when you have bottlenecks on maybe the first 4 cores.

Also, pushing things to the limit, if a dev wanted to, wouldn't be great either, since most people are on 4 or 6 core systems. So a game that was made for 16-cores would limit the audience.
 

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The Intel choices above the AMD ones you pointed out disprove your point lol.
hey it's not me that's reccomending 8 core ryzen for best performance, it's the devs. plus everyone knows you don't want garbage intel for gaming. good luck with your quad core pushing a 3080 and raytracing at 4k.

hey i'm just trying to give good advice. i like my systems to last for a long time with only maybe needing a gpu swap. so you get an 8 core zen2/3 you know you're gonna be good. anything less is a possible cpu swap before it's said and done. but if you build a whole new system every year, do what you want. but with the chip shortage and prices and tarrifs and china possibly invading taiwan, i'm not taking any chances. that extra $90 is money well spent if you ask me. and for the prices yall are paying for grapics cards you'd think you're wipping your a$$es with $100 bills anyway. so why would you tell someone not to get it? just bad advice if you ask me.
 
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hey it's not me that's reccomending 8 core ryzen for best performance, it's the devs...
I was just pointing out those same devs are recommending quad cores in your "proof".

I have no problem with your recommendation, I just think it funny that you posted something refuting your recommendation while trying to support it.
 

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I was just pointing out those same devs are recommending quad cores in your "proof".

I have no problem with your recommendation, I just think it funny that you posted something refuting your recommendation while trying to support it.
yeah i think they screwed up on the sys requirements. prob just trying to be inclusive to all the pc owners still running an intel quad (you know there are a lot of them)
from reddit:
Burgerplayer
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GTX 1070 i5 6600k 16GB RAM VRAM 8GB M2 SSD
All settings low with 720p. FPS = 46 AVG....

here's a link to the thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/pifckr/battlefield_2042_performance_on_pc/

looks like it'll run, just like crap. but to be fair, it's not running super fast for anyone. it's still in beta right now, but suppose to be out pretty soon.
 

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where do you see that? the 8 and 12 cores have both higher base and boost clocks than the 6.
Will need to see the benchmark but read my statement would not be surprised if a faster 6 core cpu (like a 5600x) will still beat a 2700x-3700x.
 

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Will need to see the benchmark but read my statement would not be surprised if a faster 6 core cpu (like a 5600x) will still beat a 2700x-3700x.
In gaming, yes. The 5600x is about 20% faster than the 3700x and absolutely kills the 2700x.

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d3athf1sh

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In gaming, yes. The 5600x is about 20% faster than the 3700x and absolutely kills the 2700x.

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so 5600X is faster than 5800X??? and what about when games are taking full advantage of the processors in the ps5 xboxSX??? 6 core gonna be faster then? don't be retarted.

why would you skimp on $90 just to build a rig that's gonna eventually not meet the minimum specs for games? i mean if all you do is internet, then hey, what are we even talking about?

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8 core wins both in zen2 and zen3 in games. now they aren't leaching everything they can out of the 8 core's YET because too many people still don't have 8 core computers and they're still releasing games on ps4/ps5 because of whatever. but just wait. mark my words. a couple/few years from now you're gonna need an octa-core. get over it. it's where we're headed.
 

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In gaming, yes. The 5600x is about 20% faster than the 3700x and absolutely kills the 2700x.
In general gaming right now we are talking about an hypothetical scenario where a game would use really well 8 cores, in that scenario it would not if a 5600x still win.

YET because too many people still don't have 8 core computers and they're still releasing games on ps4/ps5 because of whatever.

PS4 has 8 core.
 

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You guys are arguing about something that may or may not happen in the future (probably will happen eventually). The ironic thing is in when an octocore is required nobody will care about current gen hexacores anyway.

Also don't the current gen console reserve a core or so for overhead anyway? I'll take 6 higher clocked cores over 7 slower cores.
 

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You guys are arguing about something that may or may not happen in the future (probably will happen eventually). The ironic thing is in when an octocore is required nobody will care about current gen hexacores anyway.

Also don't the current gen console reserve a core or so for overhead anyway? I'll take 6 higher clocked cores over 7 slower cores.

I agree. A modern 6 core/12 thread CPU is going to be fine for it's useful lifecycle.
 

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yeah jaguar cores. we're going around in circles here. i'm done.
That because you never explained why it is relevant what type of x86 core they are ? Is this implying that Intel cpu will not scale in the same ways ?
 
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