I may be an idiot. 7900xtx to 4090 cs2 only

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Hi everyone. I don’t post much anymore. Old and busy. But, I made a trip to micro center tonight, and picked up a 7800x3d combo. When I was there they had a MSI X Supreme 4090 aio water cooled unit open box(I’m a sucker for the open box deals), for $1,450.

I basically only play CS2, I’m mid rank/tier; and I’m not going pro or playing on serious competitive teams. I have an Asrock 7900xtx now, and it’s good. Some benches on CS2, do show an advantage; to where a 4080 super shows advantage over the 7900xtx. The is 4090 by far way ahead on benches I’ve seen for instance hardware unboxed, or gamers nexus on YouTube. I’ve really never considered the 4090 before, as they were unobtainable before! But now I happened upon this deal, I’m gonna do a quick new setup and test to see if I can tell a difference. My monitor is a 32” Acer curved 1440p 240hz. I do get occasional dips down below 240 now(high settings), and thinking this 4090 will let me rock. Although, I’m also moving from a 7900x(boosts to 5.65 with pbo) to a 7800x3d, which cs2 also seems to prefer. I’m kinda in my own head about it all but it’s all fun playing with new parts!!!

I think I’m way over rationalizing an upgrade lol!!!

Current setup is
7900x pbo max temp 85c -10mv
Asrock taichi 670e
Asrock phantom gaming 7900xtx
Oly pc6400 ddr5 2x32gb @6000 cas30
Moving to 7800x3d
Then will see what difference if any I find in matchmaking games with the 4090.

Maybe I should have waited for the 5080 but for $1450 it wasn’t the worst deal on a 4090 ever!

Also in my combo I upgraded to gskill 64gb kit pc6000 cas30. Going to compare to that Oly ram I got off Amazon which isn’t bad, running tweaked timings
 

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Total overkill, Valve games are CPU bound more than GPU bound so the CPU upgrade alone would of likely made the biggest difference. I know we all like to b [H], but that just seems like $1,400 wasted...
 
Well if you are on some classic 144-170hz 1440p monitor this seem all upgrade just to upgrade, from hardware you had just to have.

Good news, no you should not have waited for the release of the 5080 to buy an upgrade to an 7900 xtx to play CS2 (5700xt or 2070 super probably more than fine for that with a 3700x), that a good deal for a water cooled 4090 that could keep its value for a very long time despite having been bought 2 years after launch, if putting computer together itself is an hobby we all did (less extreme) version of this I am sure and if you do not mind dealing with selling used stuff and live near an Micro-center in net actual dollar it is probably not that outrageous, ok I am going to play stardew valley on my 24 threads 7900x 64GB of ram computer now.
 
Popped the cpu in today. CS2 benchmark went from 450’s to 540. Death match fps 300-400fps. Also the new AMD driver and anti lag seems to help some. I’m trying to get rid of dips below 240 that occurred prior to cpu; and potential gpu upgrade.

1440p monitor 240hz
 
JNavy89GT said:
Popped the cpu in today. CS2 benchmark went from 450’s to 540. Death match fps 300-400fps. Also the new AMD driver and anti lag seems to help some. I’m trying to get rid of dips below 240 that occurred prior to cpu; and potential gpu upgrade.

1440p monitor 240hz
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I don’t play cs2 but I’ve watched a very decent amount of competitive. Almost always they are running lowest settings, 1080p and 360hz monitors. Do you run everything on low? If so I think you’d be always above 240hz at 1440p with either of those cards.
 
Dreamerbydesign said:
I don’t play cs2 but I’ve watched a very decent amount of competitive. Almost always they are running lowest settings, 1080p and 360hz monitors. Do you run everything on low? If so I think you’d be always above 240hz at 1440p with either of those cards.
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Nah I want all the eye, such as it is anyway. Only have particle detail down to medium and msaa disabled. Everything else all high at 1440p.

I was wondering if I’d notice any difference between the 7900x and 7800x3d. CS2 does seem a bit smoother in the 1% lows and seems to run higher overall fps too. Part of this might be new AMD drivers which added anti lag 2 to CS2. I’m happy so far. Runs very cool as well with a new deep cool LS 720se. Games in the 50’s and OCCT stress tests in the low 60’s.
 
This feels like the quintessential humble brag post. Despite the counter-balance signaling that you are at least somewhat frugal and value minded (buying open box) your main thrust is one of conspicuous consumption and "I-make-enough-to-waste-money-on-performance-I-may-not-even-notice". In your defense this is a phase everyone who achieves some financial success will go through. To show there is only amusement (and no malice) in this armchair Freud analysis I will end my response by relieving social tensions with an anecdote signaling camaraderie - I recently built my 10-year old son a 7800x3d / 4090 gaming machine to play Fortnite at 4K/120Hz. You do you and don't worry about it.
 
I say keep the 7900 XTX and get a 1440p 360hz Quantum Dot OLED monitor. Even if you can't hit 360------OLED's motion handling is so good, its almost like you are playing on an IPS with nearly double the refresh rate. Also, the color and contrast is incredible and will also help you see things better. As well as enjoy the eye candy.

If you don't like QD-OLED, LG will have WOLED 1440p 480 panels later this year. Currently they are still on 1440p/240.
 
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I say keep the 7900 XTX and get a 1440p 360hz Quantum Dot OLED monitor. Even if you can't hit 360------OLED's motion handling is so good, its almost like you are playing on an IPS with nearly double the refresh rate. Also, the color and contrast is incredible and will also help you see things better. As well as enjoy the eye candy.

If you don't like QD-OLED, LG will have WOLED 1440p 480 panels later this year. Currently they are still on 1440p/240.
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Will definitely look into this
Leaning towards keeping the 7900xtx anyway, after seeing the uplift from the 7800x3d and the new AMD drivers and anti lag 2 seem to be helping. Not trying to spend $ I don't need to. But I wanted that buttery smooth CS2 experience at 1440p and all high settings.
 
JNavy89GT said:
Popped the cpu in today. CS2 benchmark went from 450’s to 540. Death match fps 300-400fps. Also the new AMD driver and anti lag seems to help some. I’m trying to get rid of dips below 240 that occurred prior to cpu; and potential gpu upgrade.

1440p monitor 240hz
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be careful with the Anti Lag was Valve banning CS 2 players who used this setting?
 
Gorilla said:
You're not as dumb as me. I bought a 4090 last year, played Diablo IV for a couple days and basically haven't turned my desktop on since then. I should really just pull it and sell it.
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Hey , if you really don't need it , send me a p m 😀
 
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4090 is an excessive amount of spend for a game with such low system requirements. You simply don’t need the extra vram. I fail see what 4090 will do that 4080 will not for this game. This question has an objective answer.

You’d be better off with 4080 at the most, then upgrade again in 3-4 years. I would not even consider 4090 if I knew my only game was CS2.
 
JNavy89GT said:
I think I’m way over rationalizing an upgrade lol!!!
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Yes.

Or bragging and grandstanding.

But, it doesn't matter. You don't need any of the top 10 GPU's to run CS. You don't need 240Hz monitors. Or 64G ram. Or a 7800X3D.

JNavy89GT said:
I’m kinda in my own head about it all but it’s all fun playing with new parts!!!
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Yep, 100%.

PC's are personal and you are having fun and getting some good deals.

Awesome! Have fun!
 
Eh, I have a 4090 and for the last year had really only played old Warcraft 3 custom games.
 
This kind of anecdote made me furious during the Ampere shortages, haha. (I play hours, daily, at 4k120hz and often recent titles and needed an upgrade badly then)
 
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Decko87 said:
I'm getting 5090 SLI to play pong and solitaire. Might throw in some minesweeper but I don't want to push it.
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Cool you'll be able to enable ray tracing and get about 40 fps

I'm going to get 2 titans in SLI so i can play Myst at 20K
 
This makes zero technical or financial sense, but you do you. It's not my money being spent. Since you asked for opinions, if all I did was play CS2, I'd keep the 7900XTX until it more or less died and then make a decision at that time, in however many years in the future that was. Invest the $1400 that would have been spent on the 4090 and buy a much better card years later with the profits, because doing this today will make basically no tangible difference on your gaming experience.
 
Guys. I know for many this doesn’t seem logical, and tbh yeah for many it is dumb to spend $ on a top tier cs setup. I used to play on competitive teams, I want super high fps, and this is the only game I still play with some semblance of regularity. I may not be good anymore , but I don’t want my machine to be the limiting factor. For anyone who is a competitive FPS player, 100-200fps isn’t good enough IMO. Yeah you can play the game but the experience sucks compared to a 400+fps setup. Yeah I could have nerfed settings, but I didn’t want to. Hence the quest for more fps without nerfing eye candy.

The 7900xtx would dip at times below my target frame rate. 4090 per benches is about 100fps faster. I found an open box deal and decided to try it out, kinda no risk other than my time to drive back and forth to MC etc. so I figured why not. Is it dumb to spend that much on this game. Probably!!!! But if we are all honest with ourselves; we spend a lot of $ on questionable things. I can afford it at this point in life, so gave it a go. I posted here that night as yeah, definitely the most I’ve ever spent on a gpu and I was fighting myself on what did I just do. Not some bragging as others suggest.

That said. Card is going back this week. The 7800x3d gave me what I wanted, combined with new AMD drivers. And probably CS2 updates, as the game is still not in a great state. But I’m at my target FPS now and while the 4090 does bench about 80-100 fps higher, I’m not dipping now to where I can see stutter or tearing. I think the X3D surprised me how well it leveled the average low or 1% low fps or whatever we want to call it. I don’t get the bigger dips like I did before. I’ll wait for future gen gpus before upgrading at this point. Next upgrade may be a higher refresh monitor once I find something that fits what I want. 240hz is nice. But 480 would be awesome. 😎. Oh and maybe a 9000 series X3d cup when prices start to come down and MC baits me into another combo deal. LOL, I’m a sucker for MC combo deals
 
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JNavy89GT said:
Guys. I know for many this doesn’t seem logical, and tbh yeah for many it is dumb to spend $ on a top tier cs setup. I used to play on competitive teams, I want super high fps, and this is the only game I still play with some semblance of regularity. I may not be good anymore , but I don’t want my machine to be the limiting factor. For anyone who is a competitive FPS player, 100-200fps isn’t good enough IMO. Yeah you can play the game but the experience sucks compared to a 400+fps setup. Yeah I could have nerfed settings, but I didn’t want to. Hence the quest for more fps without nerfing eye candy.

The 7900xtx would dip at times below my target frame rate. 4090 per benches is about 100fps faster. I found an open box deal and decided to try it out, kinda no risk other than my time to drive back and forth to MC etc. so I figured why not. Is it dumb to spend that much on this game. Probably!!!! But if we are all honest with ourselves; we spend a lot of $ on questionable things. I can afford it at this point in life, so gave it a go. I posted here that night as yeah, definitely the most I’ve ever spent on a gpu and I was fighting myself on what did I just do. Not some bragging as others suggest.

That said. Card is going back this week. The 7800x3d gave me what I wanted, combined with new AMD drivers. And probably CS2 updates, as the game is still not in a great state. But I’m at my target FPS now and while the 4090 does bench about 80-100 fps higher, I’m not dipping now to where I can see stutter or tearing. I’ll wait for future gens before upgrading at this point.
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100-200 fps is absolutely good enough for the vast majority of players.
 
Furious_Styles said:
100-200 fps is absolutely good enough for the vast majority of players.
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I may not be in competition form anymore, but 100-200fps in CS to me is garbage! I realize for most casual players that’s fine. But once you know high fps in this game(CS in general, 1.6, source, Csgo, CS2), it’s hard to settle. Plus I refuse to lower eye candy settings. I want it all!!

PS, you all can disagree with me and that’s cool. I just have my own opinion and that should be cool as well!!
 
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