zamardii12
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This may come off as a rant, but I feel like this issue is very important since a lot of us enjoy gaming and have for many years. I was reading this thread on Reddit about how the Steam forums for Borderlands 2 are being inundated by people who bought Borderlands 3 through the Epic Store. Now this may not seem like a big deal but this comment on the associated Polygon article I think I completely agree with.
(The bold italic below is the response I agree with)
"Does Epic though? By not having forums and comment/voting areas they don’t have to worry about even thinking about mitigating community behavior issues. The fact that steam is having to do damage control for a game they don’t even sell is comical and should convince Epic not to bother.
This is coming from someone that only uses steam for my entire gaming library. The communities are largely trash and no matter what Valve does they are going to get bashed. Epic would be smart to avoid the mechanic of community all together. Stay a store front and let the studio’s and developers deal with communal areas where the trolls can build their bridges to lurk under."
Here is another perfect example from within the Modern Warfare subreddit:
People just can not fucking let go and let developers do their thing. They are afraid to take risks because there are people out there who are just WAY to involved and want things to their liking. I remember not that long ago there was some YouTuber who was saying shit about what he wants changed in whatever beta, and the developers listen to this shit. May not even be a good suggestion... in fact I remember a lot of people saying so but who is the developer going to listen to? Who should they listen to? Should they listen at all?
I mean you read a news story online, and the news articles will literally pick random Twitter comments to reinforce their stance on the issue... who gives a fuck what these people think?
Back before the internet was more widespread you MAYBE had a focus group and some testers to assist in finalizing a game... you didn't have a god damn social media outbreak that inherently validates everyone's stupid opinions. If it were up to me I wouldn't have any community nonsense for a game... release it, if people like it they'll buy it, and if not they won't. The market will take care of itself... but as long as we give credit to everyone's opinion we won't get new gaming experiences and new ideas have no space to flourish b/c they'll get shot down immediately by too many people who have nothing better to do with their time.
(The bold italic below is the response I agree with)
"This is the issue of running a store with poor community features. That said, it may make more sense to do this over at reddit as opposed to steam, but steam does have a large community as well.
Kind of shows you that Epic has a lot of work to do on the community side of their store, among other things.
Still not a fan of the store looking like it is made for tablets."
"Does Epic though? By not having forums and comment/voting areas they don’t have to worry about even thinking about mitigating community behavior issues. The fact that steam is having to do damage control for a game they don’t even sell is comical and should convince Epic not to bother.
This is coming from someone that only uses steam for my entire gaming library. The communities are largely trash and no matter what Valve does they are going to get bashed. Epic would be smart to avoid the mechanic of community all together. Stay a store front and let the studio’s and developers deal with communal areas where the trolls can build their bridges to lurk under."
Here is another perfect example from within the Modern Warfare subreddit:
"Unpopular Opinion: This community is going to ruin this game before it even comes out"
Why cant people just let the devs actually change the game into something that feels different than goin back to what we’re use to? They want CHANGE and you guys want to go back to old shit. Ive heard complaints that the characters feel too heavy and need to feel lighter. YOURE CARRYING BODY ARMOR. ur not suppose to feel like fucking Icarus flying around the map. Jump shotting and shit still works just get use to it. And this mini map bs (yall knew it was comin) i can give two fucks if they put it in or not but holy shit can people just learn to deal with it? Now that they put mini map ON CONSTANTLY people are complaining they want to see red dots again. Wasnt that the argument? Not to chase dots on the map? Just let the devs make the game they wanted to make and complain about actual issues like waiting 5 minutes for a cruise missile or doors acting like saloon doors when you run through them. Get ur priorities straight for fucks sake
People just can not fucking let go and let developers do their thing. They are afraid to take risks because there are people out there who are just WAY to involved and want things to their liking. I remember not that long ago there was some YouTuber who was saying shit about what he wants changed in whatever beta, and the developers listen to this shit. May not even be a good suggestion... in fact I remember a lot of people saying so but who is the developer going to listen to? Who should they listen to? Should they listen at all?
I mean you read a news story online, and the news articles will literally pick random Twitter comments to reinforce their stance on the issue... who gives a fuck what these people think?
Back before the internet was more widespread you MAYBE had a focus group and some testers to assist in finalizing a game... you didn't have a god damn social media outbreak that inherently validates everyone's stupid opinions. If it were up to me I wouldn't have any community nonsense for a game... release it, if people like it they'll buy it, and if not they won't. The market will take care of itself... but as long as we give credit to everyone's opinion we won't get new gaming experiences and new ideas have no space to flourish b/c they'll get shot down immediately by too many people who have nothing better to do with their time.