I don't have great faith in Vega, but I don't necessarily hold Raja accountable just yet.

[razor1]

I don't think Raja was there when AMD went to HBM, and this is why i don't think it should be Raja's fault, but as we know with company politics, heads must roll with failed projects that are high profile. I'm hoping its not Raja's head, cause he doesn't deserve that.

 

[N4CR]

Completely and entirely possible. However if you take a look at the reason why they can't meet production demands, it hinges entirely on them betting on the wrong horse in terms of memory. The companies who can produce HBM and HBM 2 memory keep running into yield issues, which in turn leads to supply issues for AMD.

For Navi, they said "Next Gen Memory". Its obviously a marketing term that could mean anything, but what should also be noted is it also means they aren't tied to HBM for Navi. My gut tells me that they will go with whatever the fastest memory is that ALSO can be produced en masse for Navi. I highly doubt they go back to HBM after being burned by supply problems for both versions 1 and 2 of the RAM.

It's nexgen who will supply the ssg component. Not 'next gen'. I made a thread about this (making the same mistake) last year xD
http://nexgenstorage.com/products/architecture/

I think Vega will land somewhere between the 1070 and 1080 if I had to guess...

You mean at worst few percent faster than a Fury X, with 60% higher clock at minimum and various improvements?
Come on dude..

 

[Zion Halcyon]

It's nexgen who will supply the ssg component. Not 'next gen'. I made a thread about this (making the same mistake) last year xD
http://nexgenstorage.com/products/architecture/




You mean at worst few percent faster than a Fury X, with 60% higher clock at minimum and various improvements?
Come on dude..

As I said, I don't have faith in Vega.

Although thank you - you are right about Nexgen and that's the first I've read of it (even though your link goes nowhere). That's confirmation that they are moving on from HBM. Curious to see where this goes from here.

 

[N4CR]

As I said, I don't have faith in Vega.

Although thank you - you are right about Nexgen and that's the first I've read of it (even though your link goes nowhere). That's confirmation that they are moving on from HBM. Curious to see where this goes from here.

Fair enough. I would personally raise the minimum a little higher though, ~1080 minimum ballpark. If not. FML - I will slit my wrists with an old sempron box. ;P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NexGen
Sorry for old link, seems their website is offline. AMD bought them in 95 and IIRC sold them and bought again.

 

[ecmaster76]

Fair enough. I would personally raise the minimum a little higher though, ~1080 minimum ballpark. If not. FML - I will slit my wrists with an old sempron box. ;P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NexGen
Sorry for old link, seems their website is offline. AMD bought them in 95 and IIRC sold them and bought again.

Going by that link it seems like they've were absorbed into AMD wholesale 20 years ago. Also, I don't see what relevance Nexgen's designs would have for modern GPUs.

Maybe AMD just decided to dust off the old trademark for marketing purposes.