viper1152012
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I stopped ordering stuff off amazon 2 years ago after my buddy got counterfeit thumb drives and tiny furniture..... That was funny
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Within the past month we've had to get four different things replaced because they either sent the wrong thing or they sent something that was obviously used/open box (2700x with the box seal ripped open) when we ordered new. All through Amazon as the seller/shipper. They are absolutely getting worse.
Was burned by what turned out to be a Chinese scammer on eBay about a dozen or so years ago. Both eBay and PayPal were worthless in helping.
As for Amazon, I make sure to only buy products sold by either:
1. Amazing themselves
2. The (reputable) manufacturer, such as Crucial or WizDice, through their Amazon storefronts.
Indeed.
https://www.stopfakes.gov/article?id=Report-Fake-Goods
Within the past month we've had to get four different things replaced because they either sent the wrong thing or they sent something that was obviously used/open box (2700x with the box seal ripped open) when we ordered new. All through Amazon as the seller/shipper. They are absolutely getting worse.
It isn't that big a cut, rofl. It is 10pct.
For fleaBay I made the mistake of ordering a very expensive CCD from what I thought was a well known telescope supplier (AgenaAstro). Well the store shipped it just signature required by USPS. You would think that would be enough but apparently the USPS doesnt actually check who signs for it. So my postal worker signed for it herself and walked away with a 2k camera. The signature? A flat line on the screen. USPS says: "Our readers arent that good so youre out of luck". Agena Says: "We did our part...we shipped you the item". Never mind I paid for Fedex Signature required shipping. Ebays ruling: "Youre out of luck."
Also yeah I am banned from Amazon but not for a review. I got banned for turning down a job. I turned down their job offer and the next day I couldnt post reviews and my prime account had been closed. Still trying to get them to tell me why or at least refund me whats left...
"We may restrict the ability to submit a review when we detect unusual reviewing behavior, or to maintain the best possible shopping experience."
And their guidelines clearly state not to post any defamatory or libelous reviews, or anything "otherwise injurious to third parties or objectionable..."
Sure, it's bullshit, but that's Amazon. Free speech only works when its convenient to all parties. Follow the correct procedures and report copyright infringement here.
I don’t buy the cheap Chinese obvious knocked off items from Amazon but I have left plenty of 1-star reviews. I even got contacted by one saying I was over reacting lol.
I will say that banning folks from leaving poor reviews because of shipping/handling/amazon issues kind of makes sense. The reason being that the reviews should be there to judge the product itself - Not reviewing the fuck up on Amazon/Vendors part.
The problem is that they almost need a second review system where you can judge the quality of handling/fulfillment of each product. So if a bunch of 2700x's folks are receiving are counterfeit/open box from Amazon then they'd know. Of course, Amazon will never do this because it will open themselves up to less business. They already let you review the shipping/handling, but none of this is information is exposed to the public.
I order everything from there. Never had a problem. They usually have everything I need.
I'm just irritated Amazon doesnt accept PayPal. It's not 1993 anymore. Get with the times geez...
Not for Amazon itself.I have had one contact me offering to refund if I took down or changed the review, I told them no, they then said they would refund and offer me a gift card, I asked if they were fixing the issues with the item, and they said no, so I said people deserve to know about the issues before buying, even if it costs me money.
They already have this. Right under the "Leave product review" there is another button that says "Leave seller feedback". Seller ratings are public.
That's one of the reasons I won't sell ANYTHING on ebay anymore, besides their 30% cut. They leave sellers out to dry. Now if I have anything I don't want I'll give it away or light it on fire.
Exactly. And Amazon is not the standard in this field and are not servicing their customers as well as they could by omitting the most popular and widely used online payment platform. I specifically refuse to order from Amazon when there is another source available for a similar price that accepts paypal. Its inconvenient to sign up and setup another online payment platform for just 1 vendor.PayPal is a competitor. Amazon has their own payments platform and they aren't about to pay PayPal a cut of their profits.
Exactly. And Amazon is not the standard in this field and are not servicing their customers as well as they could by omitting the most popular and widely used online payment platform. I specifically refuse to order from Amazon when there is another source available for a similar price that accepts paypal. Its inconvenient to sign up and setup another online payment platform for just 1 vendor.
The biggest problem with Amazon is they mix like inventory. If 10 businesses use fulfilled by amazon and all send in the same product with the same UPC amazon will not keep them separate. They go into a shared pool of which each business is entitled to draw from equivalent to what they sent in. That means if one of them sends in counterfeit stuff its possible legit businesses will be selling it. This is amazon's problem to solve, they need to do better.
I never had a heart attack.
Heart Attacks don't exist
You've never pulled on Ann or Nancy's hair!
Reporting copyright infringement to Amazon, in my experience, will just result in a whitewash. I once received a tip that material I had made publicly available was in an e-book on Amazon; thousands of words worth exactly duplicated. I used the preview feature to verify the violation (a few pages is enough), and then I sent a complaint to Amazon with a link to the e-book on their site and a link to the original site. I also said I was prepared to prove I was the original author. Two days later they told me the e-book on their site did not look anything like the original material I linked to. So I double checked, and sure enough there was an entirely different book at that Amazon link now. I searched high and low and could not locate the infringing e-book or that it had ever existed. Amazon played dumb. I had not thought to buy a copy since it didn't even occur to me that they would do this. I guess Amazon didn't want to have to claw back the illegal gains from the seller which they anticipated I would demand. So just remember who the copyright infringement group at Amazon works for. Hint: it isn't you."We may restrict the ability to submit a review when we detect unusual reviewing behavior, or to maintain the best possible shopping experience."
And their guidelines clearly state not to post any defamatory or libelous reviews, or anything "otherwise injurious to third parties or objectionable..."
Sure, it's bullshit, but that's Amazon. Free speech only works when its convenient to all parties. Follow the correct procedures and report copyright infringement here.
Oh I know. I've reported several vendors, but they just turn up elsewhere like whack a mole selling the same knockoff. As shitty as it is, you have to play by Amazon's rules if you want to use their system. Taking the public route only gets you banned since Amazon barely wields any control over the system they created: simple "shit rolls downhill" system to avoid dealing with the deluge of frauds and haughty reviews. (They even pester you via e-mail to answer other customer questions for products you have purchased -- it's like crowdsourcing work.)Reporting copyright infringement to Amazon, in my experience, will just result in a whitewash. I once received a tip that material I had made publicly available was in an e-book on Amazon; thousands of words worth exactly duplicated. I used the preview feature to verify the violation (a few pages is enough), and then I sent a complaint to Amazon with a link to the e-book on their site and a link to the original site. I also said I was prepared to prove I was the original author. Two days later they told me the e-book on their site did not look anything like the original material I linked to. So I double checked, and sure enough there was an entirely different book at that Amazon link now. I searched high and low and could not locate the infringing e-book or that it had ever existed. Amazon played dumb. I had not thought to buy a copy since it didn't even occur to me that they would do this. I guess Amazon didn't want to have to claw back the illegal gains from the seller which they anticipated I would demand. So just remember who the copyright infringement group at Amazon works for. Hint: it isn't you.
I don't understand why anyone would order anything from eBay or Amazon in this day and age without processing through a credit card. At least then you have 1) a huge body of law on your side protecting your money and 2) someone who cares about you as a customer protecting your moneyExactly. And Amazon is not the standard in this field and are not servicing their customers as well as they could by omitting the most popular and widely used online payment platform. I specifically refuse to order from Amazon when there is another source available for a similar price that accepts paypal. Its inconvenient to sign up and setup another online payment platform for just 1 vendor.