I accidentally broke a $2500 video card... like an idiot

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Still might be a better tech tuber than Linus

"This is what happens when I don't leave things alone... someone (or something) gets hurt!"

 

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This is the video where he hints at something new from Nvidia. Somewhere in that video. I get so sick of Jay and Phil goofing off in these videos, it starts to distract from the content.
 

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This is the video where he hints at something new from Nvidia. Somewhere in that video. I get so sick of Jay and Phil goofing off in these videos, it starts to distract from the content.
I don’t watch them for serious content so the goofing off, usually, doesn’t bother me. Though there are times where it does get in the way of the content.
 

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i admit shame for posting this youtube link, sorry folks for the supbar quality
 

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I cant handle the goofing off shit in these videos. It’s like watching 13yr olds work on computers. Seriously when did tech Youtubers sink into this hole of garbage.

Love the shameless advert for a Corsair cooler that unlocks maximum performance when in fact it doesn’t and he is flat out lying. But aparently thats fine in this day and age because he needs more $2500 GPUs.

Other than that, he didn’t really break the card, liquid metal eats solder and the shunts will just fall off.
 

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I cant handle the goofing off shit in these videos. It’s like watching 13yr olds work on computers. Seriously when did tech Youtubers sink into this hole of garbage.

Love the shameless advert for a Corsair cooler that unlocks maximum performance when in fact it doesn’t and he is flat out lying. But aparently thats fine in this day and age because he needs more $2500 GPUs.

Other than that, he didn’t really break the card, liquid metal eats solder and the shunts will just fall off.
Caught my 6 yr old watching "Minecraft" Youtube videos this past weekend. Apparently actually bringing information is not the reason these people make videos, it is to draw attention to themselves by being as "Extra" as possible. "Extra" it seems is kid-speak for "extra annoying", but it seems people watch these channels for the "Extra", not the info. I guess it is like the Kardashians. They are all about as barren of substance as can exist, yet people flock to watching them and keeping up with their daily activities.
 

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I'm sad about Jay. His early videos, especially his watercooling ones, were helpful and informative for a first timer like me. Lately though, his stuff lacks substance. It's entertaining, but it's not really a source of information.
 

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Linus is the only channel I watch consistently. Jay's I've unsubbed from, he's a complete waste of time. Guy blew all his cash on that overblown Camaro, Nissan and his studio.....never posts anything that isn't a week late or 1/2 "I left in the flubs, we're funny!" content. Kyle is about to suffer the same fate, guy has nothing to share except his wife. Paul is semi-serious enough that I find his videos worth watching more often than not, and while I find Steve cringeworthy in his delivery, with his overlord-monotone voice and his I never smile vibe, at least if you want the nuts and bolts he's going to give it to you.

It's kind of like within 5 seconds of watching any video that overlays drone-footage with royalty-free EDM music, I immediately go Full-Nope, it's like Muscle Memory at this point.

Jay's "I broke something/fucked up" videos are like 50% of his content....
 

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Linus is the only channel I watch consistently. Jay's I've unsubbed from, he's a complete waste of time. Guy blew all his cash on that overblown Camaro, Nissan and his studio.....never posts anything that isn't a week late or 1/2 "I left in the flubs, we're funny!" content. Kyle is about to suffer the same fate, guy has nothing to share except his wife. Paul is semi-serious enough that I find his videos worth watching more often than not, and while I find Steve cringeworthy in his delivery, with his overlord-monotone voice and his I never smile vibe, at least if you want the nuts and bolts he's going to give it to you.

It's kind of like within 5 seconds of watching any video that overlays drone-footage with royalty-free EDM music, I immediately go Full-Nope, it's like Muscle Memory at this point.

Jay's "I broke something/fucked up" videos are like 50% of his content....
what's the camaro all about? any specs?
 

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Jay's "I broke something/fucked up" videos are like 50% of his content....
pretty much these days yeah.. his water cooling stuff was cool early on but so many youtubers started going that route plus the massive push with AIO's and confusing the customer base has turned that into a super nitche market that there's no money left in it on youtube.. all you have to do is look at the other watercooling specific channels that no longer really do watercooling only video's anymore.. he's talked about it a bit but the one thing he noticed was that his primary viewer base is definitely in the young adult demographic that knows very little about computers and video's like these tend to do better because most of them are likely to make the same mistakes his own viewers would potentially make. same goes with the majority of LTT's viewers and why the more technical channels similar to Steve's have far less subs. but thus is youtube, you can watch what ever you want and not watch the channels/video's you don't want to watch.

what's the camaro all about? any specs?
it's a Camaro ZL1 with some basic bolt on mods.. other cars a nissan GTR that's more race spec'd out if i remember correctly. but he's always been a car guy first, computer guy second.
 
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They are tech heads trying to branch out and be more marketable to people in general not just tech heads. So they humanize themselves by showing he foibles and mistakes. Like watching a Jackie Chan movie back in the day. He's a total badass but it's still fun to watch him mess up in the end roll.
 

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I want the guy to succeed, but if he wants to appeal to a younger, non-techie crowd he needs to start producing content that isn't "I broke a 2500 video card!" and "I didn't maintain my hardline setup an effed it up!" ..personally he strikes me as the guy who should test the newest GPU's with older and more established CPU's that are 5+ years old because, as we know, a lot of people still run those first-gen Ivy Bridge and even the chips that came before then.....so what do you get if you throw a $500 video card, because you only have $500 to spend and you don't want new MB/CPU/RAM AND a GPU for $500...etc. You can sometimes find that out there but Jay's got the personality to appeal to that kind of audience with that kind of content.

Right now I just kinda find him tedious in that man-child kinda way...
 

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I want the guy to succeed, but if he wants to appeal to a younger, non-techie crowd he needs to start producing content that isn't "I broke a 2500 video card!" and "I didn't maintain my hardline setup an effed it up!" ..personally he strikes me as the guy who should test the newest GPU's with older and more established CPU's that are 5+ years old because, as we know, a lot of people still run those first-gen Ivy Bridge and even the chips that came before then.....so what do you get if you throw a $500 video card, because you only have $500 to spend and you don't want new MB/CPU/RAM AND a GPU for $500...etc. You can sometimes find that out there but Jay's got the personality to appeal to that kind of audience with that kind of content.

Right now I just kinda find him tedious in that man-child kinda way...
I use to like his content. It was pretty good but recently all his videos are dumb impractical stuff or look at what built. He doesn't even release that many videos. Honestly don't know how he keeps the lights on. Also the corsair air cooler review bothered me. It is a ok cooler but nothing spectacular like makes it out. Not the $100 they asking for anyway. Can't just fault him about it since all the techtubers are gushing about it.
 

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it's a Camaro ZL1 with some basic bolt on mods.. other cars a nissan GTR that's more race spec'd out if i remember correctly. but he's always been a car guy first, computer guy second.
It wasn't a GTR. It was a Nissan 370z I believe. It would of been a downgrade if he had a GTR going to the Camaro. Hell a stock GTR would wreck his current Camaro more then likely. Don't think he even has it anymore since he got the Camaro.
 
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So how did he break the card? I did see the video, but like most overly like chatty videos that seem to plague Youtube, I tend to skip around not needing a play by play of each screw being removed.

That said, some the above mentioned other reviewers I tend to find their information more useful quite a few months to a year after they put the video out. I'm not [H] enough to do water cooling, or buy the high end video cards like the 2080 Ti... like literally ever, but at a time now where I'm looking at possibly moving on/up from my gtx970 (yeah it still works for what I need) seeing videos of the 1660 Ti or even things like the 2060/2070 cards it's nice to see where those cards stand when the price points get to a level I'm partially interested in. When they're new, not so much into the hype, when they're a generation old, starts making a little more sense... if and only if the pricing also drops accordingly (which Nvidia seems to be dragging their feet on)
 

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it's a Camaro ZL1 with some basic bolt on mods.. other cars a nissan GTR that's more race spec'd out if i remember correctly. but he's always been a car guy first, computer guy second.
i see

 
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this guy in the video is almost completely grey and has a few decades on me at least:

does everyone always have to speak in memes and act erratic? irritating, not subbed.
 

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Not worth the time, this guy builds some nice water cooling rigs, but otherwise is hard to watch. For gods sake he thought it would be OK to drill through a Mobo PCB.
 

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So how did he break the card? I did see the video, but like most overly like chatty videos that seem to plague Youtube, I tend to skip around not needing a play by play of each screw being removed.

That said, some the above mentioned other reviewers I tend to find their information more useful quite a few months to a year after they put the video out. I'm not [H] enough to do water cooling, or buy the high end video cards like the 2080 Ti... like literally ever, but at a time now where I'm looking at possibly moving on/up from my gtx970 (yeah it still works for what I need) seeing videos of the 1660 Ti or even things like the 2060/2070 cards it's nice to see where those cards stand when the price points get to a level I'm partially interested in. When they're new, not so much into the hype, when they're a generation old, starts making a little more sense... if and only if the pricing also drops accordingly (which Nvidia seems to be dragging their feet on)
A resistor that he had a shunt mod fell off when he was trying to remove it. It was click baity title. Something pretty easy to fix.
 

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I never got into Jay's channel - his reviews always feel rushed. His slides for bench-marking results go too fast for me personally.

I prefer either Gamers Nexus for the really in depth stuff if I can stomach listening to Steve ramble on and on about stuff in his monotone voice. I like the techspot/hardware unboxed guys. Especially the dude who does the monitor reviews - they are actual reviews that test response times and color calibrations. I honestly wish there were more youtube content creators who did actual monitor reviews. tftcentral seems kinda dead. :/
 

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I like him despite the fact that he hasn't sworn blind allegiance to AMD. I realize that kind of makes him a non-start for most here.
 

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A resistor that he had a shunt mod fell off when he was trying to remove it. It was click baity title. Something pretty easy to fix.
That is the new fad now, a quirky goofy 20minute video to get attention, but a 5 minute solder fix to actually repair it. People tend to flock more toward the guys that are entertaining more so than informative. It was a trend that started when everything went to video, what used to be a easy read you could navigate to what you needed to learn, had to turn into a something resembling a parody of a hardware review.

One of my favorites is EEVblog, bit goofy of a guy too so I am not all 'get off mah lawn' about them.
 

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I like him despite the fact that he hasn't sworn blind allegiance to AMD. I realize that kind of makes him a non-start for most here.
You new?
Just a couple years ago AMD was awful and going out of business.
 

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I never got into Jay's channel - his reviews always feel rushed. His slides for bench-marking results go too fast for me personally.

I prefer either Gamers Nexus for the really in depth stuff if I can stomach listening to Steve ramble on and on about stuff in his monotone voice. I like the techspot/hardware unboxed guys. Especially the dude who does the monitor reviews - they are actual reviews that test response times and color calibrations. I honestly wish there were more youtube content creators who did actual monitor reviews. tftcentral seems kinda dead. :/
I never really cared for Jay or Linus' channels; I will watch a few on occasion but they've always been clickbaity and overly excitable.

IMO the HWUB guys do the best reviews on YT. Another great one is Optimum Tech. I also really like AV Techy but I think that it's a big part of it is because he's a young guy that's legitimately passionate about what he's doing and constantly trying to improve his channel.
 

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I'm sad about Jay. His early videos, especially his watercooling ones, were helpful and informative for a first timer like me. Lately though, his stuff lacks substance. It's entertaining, but it's not really a source of information.
I've always found video to be the wrong format for optimal information transfer. I watch the videos mostly for entertainment. It's why I think Steve is in a little bit of a tough niche in that his videos are really just him reading written content aloud.

I actually think I'd love the casual format if it were interactive. Would be kind of fun to essentially hang out with a bunch of other build enthusiasts while we're building at home. This, IMO, is why game streaming has taken off like it has - it's fun to watch and "hang out."
 

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I've always found video to be the wrong format for optimal information transfer. I watch the videos mostly for entertainment. It's why I think Steve is in a little bit of a tough niche in that his videos are really just him reading written content aloud.

I actually think I'd love the casual format if it were interactive. Would be kind of fun to essentially hang out with a bunch of other build enthusiasts while we're building at home. This, IMO, is why game streaming has taken off like it has - it's fun to watch and "hang out."
i usually watch buildzoid (actually hardcore overclocking), he streams on twitch periodically(also check the science & technology section of twitch). for the extreme overclocking stuff i like watching Bearded hardware's streams on youtube but he kinda does it as a side gig so he doesn't stream as often as he wants to.
 

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That is the new fad now, a quirky goofy 20minute video to get attention, but a 5 minute solder fix to actually repair it. People tend to flock more toward the guys that are entertaining more so than informative. It was a trend that started when everything went to video, what used to be a easy read you could navigate to what you needed to learn, had to turn into a something resembling a parody of a hardware review.

One of my favorites is EEVblog, bit goofy of a guy too so I am not all 'get off mah lawn' about them.
its partly due to YouTube algorithm and monetization needs. Thats why most videos are at least 10 min now to hit that monetization mark. So a video that really only needs to be 5 mins with straight info a data is now extended to 15-20 min with added BS and filler so maximize monetization.
 

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I never got into Jay's channel - his reviews always feel rushed. His slides for bench-marking results go too fast for me personally.

I prefer either Gamers Nexus for the really in depth stuff if I can stomach listening to Steve ramble on and on about stuff in his monotone voice. I like the techspot/hardware unboxed guys. Especially the dude who does the monitor reviews - they are actual reviews that test response times and color calibrations. I honestly wish there were more youtube content creators who did actual monitor reviews. tftcentral seems kinda dead. :/
Hardware Unboxed is the best. The rest of these guys aren't worth my time.
 

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Still might be a better tech tuber than Linus

"This is what happens when I don't leave things alone... someone (or something) gets hurt!"

I bet I could fix that... :cool:

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This is the video where he hints at something new from Nvidia. Somewhere in that video. I get so sick of Jay and Phil goofing off in these videos, it starts to distract from the content.
I find it interesting that I generally lose interest in most Youtube guys once they get big enough that they can move production out of their house. I used to really like Jay, but then he moved into a real studio, and I kind of lost interest. Same with the Bitwit dude and Linus.

Steve of GamersNexus is maybe a notable exception, except for the fact that, the more I watch him, the more insufferable I find him. He really likes to crow about how thorough his data collection methods are, but then turns around and shoots from the hip and condemns whatever brand released a case with a glass front that week without actually testing it.
 
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All of them have different Strengths. I choose

Steve for in depth stuff when it comes to performance.

Linus is a good all a rounder that doesn't go into great depth but gives you a feeling for whats the latest and greatest. Though Linus went through a change where he tried to throw in adult humor and I can't recommend anymore his channel to my young nephews.

Paul is a good all a rounder. He doesn't usually touch cell phone and laptop stuff, which is good in my book.

TIMMY JOE is the best because he is the least elitist and he is also one of the more entertaining personalities. He will give you the low down on a range of components low to high level. I like his Roast My Rig skits and also when he pokes fun at all those craiglist ads asking way to much for PC's.

Not An Apple Fan Is Also pretty good if your in the mood to blow off some steam with the outrageous pricing and antics of the cpu and graphics card manufacturers.
 

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Tech reviews and benchmarks are best left to websites that I can read and look at graphs. Watching a video format for tech stuff isn't entertaining. There are problems with every single YouTube channel that talks about enthusiast PC stuff. The video format is not ideal. Linus squeezes by by pandering to the ADHD middle-school to high-school demographic with his quick-cut edits, and obnoxious always-like-he's-talking-loud voice. Jay could literally be replaced by any one of us who has been on these forums for years, and I feel like really struggles with what content to fill his channel with. He should be thanking Nvidia for releasing as many video-cards as they did last year because without those reviews he'd have no interesting content. My tech favoritism on YouTube boils down to non-enthusiastic stuff... mainly MKBHD and Dave2D for general tech and cellphone/laptop reviews respectively. My main problem with Youtube is the fact that fucking everything is income driven. I don't want to watch a 5+ minute video let alone a 10 or 20 minute video about a subject I could glance or look at in 2-4 minutes.
 

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Steve of GamersNexus is maybe a notable exception, except for the fact that, the more I watch him, the more insufferable I find him. He really likes to crow about how thorough his data collection methods are, but then turns around and shoots from the hip and condemns whatever brand released a case with a glass front that week without actually testing it.
Steve is the perfect example of someone who kind of knows what he's doing, but who ultimately is too self-absorbed to realize that he's completely missing the point. His obsession with open fronts on cases illustrates this nicely: he is technically correct that anything in front of the case will reduce airflow through the case, but he completely misses the fact that putting a vented glass panel on a case makes zero difference to how well the machine performs.

Maybe that last bit is the real problem with all of our techtubers: none of it actually matters. They're all testing the same extremely well manufactured pieces of hardware using all of the same tests and they're all getting the same results. The ones doing builds are all sticking the same pieces of kit together as everyone else. Outside of major build screwups or some XOC adventures, the hardware always seems to perform essentially the same. Thus, how can these guys differentiate themselves?
 

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You can differentiate yourself by going into the engineering behind the hardware you're installing in your kit. For instance explaining how the chiplet layout on an xxxxxx CPU gives performance boosts and why based on your discussions with the vendor using x amount of Cache at these points is allowing better overall performance. Details on why the Chip was built like it was and how it performs once that is explained will go a long way. Then for the different chips you can explain how the design differentiates from the previous (sans any IP specific information of course.) and give your own suppositions on what is interesting.

This would work well for video cards, CPU's, Memory, all of it.

I saw a video the other day that went into some detail on Dual In line Memory Modules and how they were different and what the various chip layouts meant to density and performance. Interesting stuff. And it was an LTT video.

LTT is differentiating themselves by discussing and tinkering with server class hardware and configurations. As an IT engineer it is interesting. I can see wins and losses in what they are doing but respect the work being done. It's clear they are intro level into enterprise hardware, but nobody else is doing content like this on youtube that I know of at least. (I would welcome some channel recommendations if there are more.)

MR broke a video card does custom builds and sort of comes across more like a 'Discovery' channel type show about computer building than a hard engineering and technical infomation review. Not bad and can be a form of entertainment. But of course he's not as in depth on the hardware itself. It's like... Jessy James building motorcycles, or the count guy doing custom card mods more than it is about the engines and tires and performance coefficients.
 

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Steve is the perfect example of someone who kind of knows what he's doing, but who ultimately is too self-absorbed to realize that he's completely missing the point. His obsession with open fronts on cases illustrates this nicely: he is technically correct that anything in front of the case will reduce airflow through the case, but he completely misses the fact that putting a vented glass panel on a case makes zero difference to how well the machine performs.

Maybe that last bit is the real problem with all of our techtubers: none of it actually matters. They're all testing the same extremely well manufactured pieces of hardware using all of the same tests and they're all getting the same results. The ones doing builds are all sticking the same pieces of kit together as everyone else. Outside of major build screwups or some XOC adventures, the hardware always seems to perform essentially the same. Thus, how can these guys differentiate themselves?
He actually demonstrated once that the reduced airflow you see really does translate into a measurable loss of performance, since it causes the system to "boost" less aggressively. In that sense, he's not really wrong. It's just hypocritical for him to harp on how important it is to collect data as rigorously as he claims to do in the same breath that he speculates about new products he hasn't put through that oh-so-important rigorous process. Even if he's pretty sure he's going to be right, he needs to actually collect that data and demonstrate it. I work in a building full of real scientists doing real science, and if I ever suggested that we put that kind of speculation in a paper we intended to put up for peer review, I'd be shown the door with the quickness.

And... youtubers can differentiate themselves by doing actually interesting things. Steve does a series of videos every year or so where they go to the places all the hardware is actually made. They toured a Gigabyte motherboard factory last year, and visited the lab where Kingpin and Tin do their work. It was awesome! But it's mainly great because they're celebrating the work other people do, and not just pontificating about how the glass panel on this case won't cause the CPU to run two degrees "delta-T over ambient" hotter than this other case.
 

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He actually demonstrated once that the reduced airflow you see really does translate into a measurable loss of performance
He also points out noise levels. A case that has to run the fans faster is going to be louder. If you care about a quiet environment that might matter to you.
 
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