Hyundai Reveals Smart Fingerprint Technology to Unlock and Start Cars

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  1. cageymaru

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    Hyundai has announced new smart fingerprint technology that will allow customers to unlock doors and start cars with their fingerprints. Hyundai says the technology is more secure than smart key technology as the chances of it making a mistake is only 1 in 50,000 which is 5 times more secure than conventional keys and smart keys. The system uses capacitance recognition which reads differentials in the fingertip to prevent forgeries and faked fingerprints. Also the system has real-time learning of fingerprints and a 'dynamic update' system to continually improve its success rate. The first Hyundai model to feature the technology will be the Santa Fe SUV that is to be released in select markets in 2019. The system will eventually allow for custom seat positions, connected car settings, mirror, and other settings based on the fingerprint of the current user.

    "In the future, Hyundai Motor plans to further expand the application of the technology to allow the adjustment of temperature, steering wheel position, and many other features which will be tailored to driver's preferences" said Albert Biermann, President and Head of Research & Development Division of the Hyundai Motor Company. "This will ultimately offer quality driving experience to each and every Hyundai customer."
     
  2. Danny Dawg

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    Uh . . .no thanks . . I will just take a good old fashioned metal key. This is just more shit that will break and then cost a fortune to diagnose and fix.
     
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  3. travisty

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    Lol way to catch up hyundai.
    Tesla already has this with the moble app and much more.
     
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  4. DrLobotomy

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    I'm sure the ACME Finger Remover companys' stocks just rose.
     
  5. niconx

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    Time to grab a bag of gummy bears and lift some fingerprints.
     
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  7. Cactusj

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    What happens when its raining\snowing\covered in ice? This seems like a poor decision that wasn't completely thought out.
     
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  8. Dekoth-E-

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    I was all about keyless fobs years ago when I bought my car. 7 years later and my wife getting stranded with an unexpected dead battery in the fob rendering the car unable to be started as the key only unlocks the door..I am decidedly less enthusiastic about them.
     
  9. TordanGow

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    What year and model of car?
     
  10. Cactusj

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    My Infiniti had a spot for the keyfob to sit to start the car even with a dead battery. I never had to use it as it started warning of a low battery at about 25% battery strength.
     
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  11. Viper16

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    Yeah I believe most can hover over the push-start button and it will use the electromagnet field to pickup the security information.
     
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  12. Krenum

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    Just something else to break and cost a fortune to fix. No thanks. Bad enough I have to change my door handles on my 03 hyundai =/, lets use plastic clips for the door handles, great idea!
     
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    You bought an 03 Hyundai, what did you expect?
     
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  14. vegeta535

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    There always a back up. I find it hard to believe your don't. My fob has a metal key that you can pull out and use to pop the cover off my handle has a normal key hole under it. Even with the battery dead it will still allow me to start it with the push start. But yea this is pointless. Perfer remote start so I can start it from anywhere in my house.
     
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    I love how mad everyone is. I have not unlocked my car with a metal key in.. 20 years? I'm on my first car with the proximity unlock and push-button start and even the "wave foot under trunk" auto-opener for that and man, not having to use my key for -anything- is awesome. This fingerprint thing sounds a little gimmicky as I thought this problem was solved already, but if they can make it work reliably in different weather conditions it would be handy with families where more than one person uses the vehicle. Having it configure itself depending on who's hand grabs the door handle sounds convenient.
     
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    I could get you a thumb by 3 o'clock....with nail polish.
     
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    This plus they should watch A Christmas Story. Putting warm body parts on cold stuff doesn't always end well. And who really wants to take their gloves off when it is 0 with wind gusting to 40?

    Now if this is an alternative method to unlock the car like the number pad on my Ford Escape, that is different.
     
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  18. Krenum

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    The car was given to me. Great car for a daily driver. Next to nothing to fill up the gas tank.
     
  19. THRESHIN

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    As I read this, it seems more like biometrics rather than just a fingerprint scanner guys. Granted, we really don't know much until they push this one out.

    As for the keyless FOBs, yeah battery sucks when it dies but as others have stated, they indeed do work when you hold the dead FOB up to the start button....or wherever the antenna is.

    When they do malfunction, here's a tip: disconnect your battery for a couple minutes and reconnect it. This will reset the immobiliser and associated electronics. I keep a 10mm wrench in the glove box just for this. In 4 years of owning the car it's saved my butt twice already.
     
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    You have to ask yourself, is there a criminal willing to cut off a digit to try to access your Hyundai vehicle? Some Mercedes owners learned the answer the hard way.
     
  21. Teenyman45

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    You forgot dirt and mud.

    What's much more concerning is letting handing the car off to a parking attendant, a valet, or just letting somebody borrow it for a little while. What are you going to do, register them all as valid users of the vehicle and then remember to delete them later?
     
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  22. blandead

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    I'm assuming it'll still open if you have your key on you
     
  23. fightingfi

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    if its electronic it CAN and will be Hacked...........
     
  24. Dekoth-E-

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    2011 Nissan Rogue and nope, the key only unlocks the door. If the Fob is dead, you are SOL. Love the car outside that one issue.
     
  25. Brackle

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    Uhhhh.....no.....I mean lets say you are at work, hurt you hand or the finger you use to unlock the car and start then what?

    Sounds like a recipe for disaster!
     
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    Well I'd imagine that you'd be required to register more than one fingerprint with the car. Also, logic would assume that this would only be an alternative to using a key and that the traditional key fob will still be a backup option. Don't see the problem with it being an option myself.
     
  27. Crosshairs

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    The vehicle will start if you use the fob to push the button..all KIN systems work this way. you can take the battery out of the fob and it will still start if you use the fob itself to push the button.
     
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  28. Dekoth-E-

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    Nope. Mine doesn't have the button it has what appears to be a normal key turn switch, except it doesn't accept the key. If the fob is dead the switch will absolutely not turn whatsoever. I've had the car for 7 years, I know what it will and will not do. If that fob is dead, you are fucked.
     
  29. seanreisk

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    To implement a feature that does nothing for a car... Think about it.

    Now, if you made a small breakaway panel on something like the outside rear view mirror, and inside was a fingerprint sensor that could be used a max of 10 times when you lost your keys, and it had to be reset and the panel replaced by the dealership for $60.00 (but you got a free oil change with the repair), I'd think that was really cool.
     
  30. bigdogchris

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    I feel sorry for the guy whom has the car being stolen by a thief with a big knife.
     
  31. Mazzspeed

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    Key blade and factory immobilizer with rolling code for me thanks.

    I remember working at a job where they had a finger print reader for the time clock. You could use PVA glue to lift your finger print, give it to someone else to put on their finger and they could clock you in if you were running late for work.
     
  32. nutzo

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    If you have a push button start, just hold the key next to the start button. On most cars, the fob will operate even with a dead battery.

    Just read where your car doesn't have that. Very poor implementation.
     
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    It does accept they key. You have the "older" iKey system. The key goes into the center of the ignition switch. The key slot isn't visible but if you push the mechanical key in the center of it it will go in and you can start the car like a normal key.
     
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    He has the old non-push button intelligent key. You can still start it with the mechanical key. The keyway has a spring loaded cover so he probably didn't see it.
     
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    Next time it happens, try holding the transceiver (remote) right up against the start button while pressing the button to start the car. The transmitter in the switch should have enough power to energize the coil in the remote even if the battery is totally flat.
     
  36. TordanGow

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    No. That's not how you do it on this car. I already provided the solution.
     
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    That's great. So when you and your buddy go out on the town and some idiot brains you with a beer bottle, or some other debilitating unforeseen occurrence happens, he won't be able to just load you in the car and take you to the nearest hospital. You'll first have to go through the entire "learning" procedure first. And if you're unconscious, good luck with that. Dumb idea. Just as dumb as the keyless fobs that leave you stranded when the fob or sensor fails. Normal keys have worked for a long time. Even chipped keys are a better option IMO, than this tragedy in the making.
     
  38. maclem8223

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    There is some serious reading comprehension issues in this thread lol
     
  39. Crosshairs

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    Yes, thats a different system than the one I posted about, but does yours not operate like this one?

     
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  40. steakman1971

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    I'll play Devil's Advocate with my post. I think this could be pretty cool tech (assuming I have a key I can use if I want and there is a way to deal with the valet/third party drivers).
    My fingerprint sets my seat position, heating/cooling preferences/audio settings. It could also do the same when my wife borrows my vehicle. What drives me crazy - my wife sometimes adjusts my seat, absolutely changes heat settings, and even worse - puts my radio on country music (which I can't stand!)
    Of course, the model of this vehicle I would buy won't come with these features. I like to buy vehicles with the least amount of upgrades so I don't waste a lot of money. In the late 90's, I bought a Ford Explorer that was top of the line at the time. In the beginning, it was a nice ride. However, things started breaking over time and usually not covered by warranty. All of the extra features were quite expensive to replace. That will probably be the last decked-out vehicle I buy (and my last Ford - I won't go on about the mechanical issues I ran into...)