How to install ZFS on KDE neon?

mrjayviper

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The distro is based on Ubuntu xenial. In fact sources.list is the same as my Ubuntu setup. When I try to install ZFS via the normal Ubuntu way (sudo apt install ZFS), there's no zfs.ko.

Can you please help? Thanks

ps. I get the same issue of my laptop (HP 8640p or using virtualbox)

edit:

I just installed the distro on a new virtualbox container. I tried both these ISOs: neon-userltsedition-20171011-0018-amd64.iso and neon-useredition-20171012-1018-amd64.iso.

Here are the steps I followed after the the installation completed (i.e. first boot)

step1: sudo apt update

step2: sudo apt full-upgrade

step3: sudo reboot now

step4: sudo apt install zfs (notice that using zfs package installs zfsutils-linux. Also Ubuntu recommends using zfs package for 16.xx versions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS)

Code:
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$ sudo apt install zfs
[sudo] password for chiyo:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'zfsutils-linux' instead of 'zfs'
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libnvpair1linux libuutil1linux libzfs2linux libzpool2linux zfs-doc zfs-zed
Suggested packages:
  default-mta | mail-transport-agent samba-common-bin nfs-kernel-server zfs-initramfs
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libnvpair1linux libuutil1linux libzfs2linux libzpool2linux zfs-doc zfs-zed
  zfsutils-linux
0 to upgrade, 7 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
Need to get 897 kB of archives.
After this operation, 2,902 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 zfs-doc all 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18 [50.0 kB]
Get:2 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 libuutil1linux amd64 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18 [27.4 kB]
Get:3 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 libnvpair1linux amd64 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18 [23.5 kB]
Get:4 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 libzpool2linux amd64 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18 [384 kB]
Get:5 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 libzfs2linux amd64 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18 [106 kB]
Get:6 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 zfsutils-linux amd64 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18 [276 kB]
Get:7 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 zfs-zed amd64 0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18 [29.7 kB]
Fetched 897 kB in 15s (57.5 kB/s)                                                     
Selecting previously unselected package zfs-doc.
(Reading database ... 142686 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../zfs-doc_0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18_all.deb ...
Unpacking zfs-doc (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libuutil1linux.
Preparing to unpack .../libuutil1linux_0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libuutil1linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libnvpair1linux.
Preparing to unpack .../libnvpair1linux_0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libnvpair1linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libzpool2linux.
Preparing to unpack .../libzpool2linux_0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libzpool2linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libzfs2linux.
Preparing to unpack .../libzfs2linux_0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libzfs2linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Selecting previously unselected package zfsutils-linux.
Preparing to unpack .../zfsutils-linux_0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking zfsutils-linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Selecting previously unselected package zfs-zed.
Preparing to unpack .../zfs-zed_0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking zfs-zed (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu9) ...
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.122ubuntu8.8) ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.10.0-37-generic
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu19) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
Setting up zfs-doc (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Setting up libuutil1linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Setting up libnvpair1linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Setting up libzpool2linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Setting up libzfs2linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
Setting up zfsutils-linux (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
zfs-import-cache.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
zfs-import-scan.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
zfs-mount.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.122ubuntu8.8) ...
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.10.0-37-generic
Setting up zfs-zed (0.6.5.6-0ubuntu18) ...
zed.service is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it.
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.23-0ubuntu9) ...
Processing triggers for systemd (229-4ubuntu19) ...
Processing triggers for ureadahead (0.100.0-19) ...
chiyo@mydesktop1:~

step 6: looking for ZFS kernel modules

Code:
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$ sudo find / -iname "zfs.ko" -type f
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$ sudo find / -iname "spl.ko" -type f
/lib/modules/4.10.0-37-generic/kernel/zfs/spl/spl.ko
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$

step7: getting system info

Code:
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: neon
Description:    KDE neon LTS User Edition 5.8
Release:        16.04
Codename:       xenial
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$ uname -a
Linux mydesktop1 4.10.0-37-generic #41~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 6 22:42:59 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$ apt list --installed | grep linux-image

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

linux-image-4.10.0-37-generic/xenial-updates,xenial-security,now 4.10.0-37.41~16.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-image-extra-4.10.0-37-generic/xenial-updates,xenial-security,now 4.10.0-37.41~16.04.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04/xenial-updates,xenial-security,now 4.10.0.37.39 amd64 [installed,automatic]
chiyo@mydesktop1:~$
 
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There was a problem with zfs in certain kernel versions. Users had to either downgrade or upgrade the kernel to get zfs working. Did you try to do modprobe zfs?
 
There was a problem with zfs in certain kernel versions. Users had to either downgrade or upgrade the kernel to get zfs working. Did you try to do modprobe zfs?
Hi Boonie. I updated my first post with the steps I used + script/system info.

Also on my Ubuntu/Unity 16.04 setup, it's using the same kernel as KDE neon.
 
any particular reason you want zfs? I only ask because out of tree driver, drivers needed to boot the system are a royal PITA
if zfsOnLinux lags behind or the distro lags behind keeping the suite in sync, you will be stuck.

I learnt that lesson in 2001 with Mandrake & ReiserFS ... These days I will only use configurations native to the tree to boot to init. Once init is up sure, external drivers but from bios to init will always be in-tree for me (this also include fakeRAID chips I did that as well.... softwareRAID beats them anyway)
 
It seems that this is a KDE Neon specific problem as other users have had similar trouble with zfs.

someone who got it working said:
Currently, I have installed:

  • spl
  • spl-dkms
  • libnvpair1linux
  • libuutil1linux
  • libzfs2linux
  • libzpool2linux
  • zfs-dkms
  • zfs-doc
  • zfs-zed
  • zfsutils-linux
 
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