How much better are the new processors compared to my i7 920?

Discussion in 'Intel Processors' started by ellover009, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. Grimlaking

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    Awesome move man either one you would have been happy with. Enjoy the driver/bios/os update dance until they get it ironed out! I'm too old for that. ;)
     
  2. ellover009

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    That should bring me some excitement from the old days. I still have a week before they deliver the processor, so that gives me time to source a mobo, apply for the free conversion kit from Noctua providing I qualify. That be a good day to drink. So much to figure out.
     
  3. ReaperX22

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    Enjoy! Should be a fun system! OC that bad boy to 3.9 ish and you've basically got a 1800x for what, 60% of the price? XD.
     
  4. rgMekanic

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    Enjoy it.

    I've been using a W3690 (essentially an i7 990X) for years. I've been completely happy with the performance, but my motherboard was starting to fail.

    Picked up a 6800k and stuff 2 days ago. I must say I was quite shocked with the performance difference.

    I went from a 6c 12t @ 3.7Ghz stock, to a 6c 12t @ 3.8Ghz stock (boost clocks) so I did not expect much.

    In every synthetic bench I've ran on it so far, 60% faster than my 990x. Did a mild OC to the 6800 (4.0 on 6c, 4.1 on 4c, 4.2 on 2c) and it's 80% faster.
     
  5. Slade

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    I cracked and built a 7700k system. I did it more for the updated aspects rather than raw CPU performance. I've got mixed feelings on windows 10 though as it feels like in gaming a 4.0ghz i7920 in win7 vs a 5.0 ghz i77700k in win10 are neck in neck with the same video card.

    My advice is to enjoy the new system build, crank it to 4.0ghz at minimum. You can still jury rig the e-sata as most new boards support hot swappable sata ports and my old x58 board came with a simple e-sata to sata plug.
     
  6. ReaperX22

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    IPC has come a long way since First Gen, but not as much so since 2nd/3rd onwards. So anything from 1156 and LGA 1366 I believe will see quite reasonable gains
     
  7. BitMaster

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    I still have and use the same i7 920 with said mainboard, 6GB RAM and an old 840evo SSD with Win10.

    You cannot compare the 920 vs the 7700k. It's like comparing a 1972 Porsche 911 to a 911 GT3 of today.

    That much difference it makes in "most" scenarios, games, VMware, transcoding etc..

    Still, for everyday casual "surf the net" this is still a solid PC. Apple sells you new Macbooks that bottom line have less CPU ooomps, they just call it LifeStyle :p


    For serious gaming and production, make the change, for casual gaming and tight money, keep it.

    My son uses my other i7-920 with everythig else failry new around it, he will not upgrade..he says all his games run at 60Hz at 1080p and more he doesnt need now ( hes 16 ).


    So pick your truth, my son games more than I do and insists on his 920 and I have to have this 7700k to feel happy and fly my DCS sinulator fluently, both truths are valid.
     
  8. brennok

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    My i7-860 is definitely getting long in the tooth. It works fine for an every day PC, but I really need to pull the trigger on an upgrade for Plex.

    The biggest dilemma I keep having is what to jump to. I keep starting to look, but I never pull the trigger.
     
  9. BitMaster

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    I would right now pull the trigger on AMD and get more cores. Newest info seems to proof it can keep pace with the 7700k when paired with fast RAM...which right now is still a bit of fumbling and tweaking but we can expect better Bios' and faster RAM support, 3600 and faster seems to be a sweetspot for the Ryzen when it comes to gaming.

    1700 AMD, add a decent cooler, AIO or CustomLoop, some fast RAM and you should be fairly future proof :)
     
  10. Shintai

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    But it cant. Its like buying an FX and claim it will be fine if you wait long enough.
     
  11. ellover009

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    I wouldn't call it that bad. It's just deficient in gaming at 1080p. In 1440P and higher there is a much smaller gap, sometimes none at all. The big difference between this and the FX is that this can actually exceed Intel's offering when it comes to some productivity applications unless you wanna splurge on Intel's $1000 processors.

    Things are improving, it will be good once more games start to take advantage of even more cores, it will fit the bill fine.
    A lot of the negativity associated with ryzen are hype, ram issues if you don't have ram that plays nicely, and limited motherboard supply unless you wanna buy the Biostar motherboards which are usually the only thing in stock

    I think ryzen is a good proposition for some ppl, and once you close the gap enough by updates or buying good ram you can close the gap in gaming between this and the 7700k. Some games are worse than others when it comes to this but I don't think it's anywhere to the point where you can't have an enjoyable experience. I like that it has a good balance between productivity and gaming, a computer should be able to do more than just gaming. Don't get me wrong the 7700k is the best gaming experience at $300 something dollar right now.
    To be fair people's expectation on gains might be higher than reality. Your post reminded me of this part on this video.
    his video on indie gogo robots is funny.
     
  12. Shintai

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    Yes and if your pair it with a R5 210/GT610 or something there is no difference at all either.

    Does this ring a bell for you?
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    When CPU limits hit, 7700K is 30-50% faster. And the gap will only increase with time.
     
  13. SSimmons05

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    Exactly, that's how I upgraded my MSI board to semi modern.
     
  14. SSimmons05

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    I did that on mine, but went with a higher model. Have three 256 gig SSD's in Raid 0 running at 6g/s. I did that disk drive bench test before and after, the results are laughable. On my old on board controller I barely had any benchmark line, but on the new hardware add in controller in raid 0 it's just under the best SSD's listed in reviews on various sites, and games, especially anything that loads or changes zones, is instant, whereas before I could go cook a 6 course meal waiting for LotRO zone changes to load.
     
  15. SSimmons05

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    The Xeon 5675 is dirt cheap, and basically is a 4 core 980 that overclock to around 4.5 easily if you don't care about having 6 physical cores/12 total.
     
  16. SSimmons05

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    The hard part there, and why I'm holding off till next year to see new stepping stone and revisions, is the brand new AMD boards for Ryzen are no where to be found, and need out of the box bios updates in a lot of the cases.