How good is Saphire Radeon X1600Pro 512MB AGP vs 6800GS 256MB

Xcom_Cheetah

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i just saw it on newegg... look like a pretty good card to me with shader model 3 and all the features equivalent to Nvidia's 6xxx series

But i haven't found any benchmark about them... So any idea how it will match 6800GS.. They don't even list the memory and core clock speed.:(

Original Website Saphire X1600Pro
 
Xcom_Cheetah said:
i just saw it on newegg... look like a pretty good card to me with shader model 3 and all the features equivalent to Nvidia's 6xxx series

But i haven't found any benchmark about them... So any idea how it will match 6800GS.. They don't even list the memory and core clock speed.:(

Original Website Saphire X1600Pro

Btw i don't think 512MB will matter much in current game scanerios but without any price premium for 512MB this does look nice.
 
Oh, I thought X1600 was an 8 pipe part.As it's paired with 800MHz memory on a 128-bit bus, it may as well be. It might do well at 3dMark05/06, but for games I'm fairly confident the 6800GS would clobber it
 
The 6800GS would be noticably faster than that X1600Pro. I second the opinion that that card is not fast enough to make use of a 512mb frame buffer.
 
it has 12 pipelines.. but as far as i remember the ATI uses some crossbar sort of architecture in the core which helps to make effiecient use of 128-bit memory interface... Althouth it won't be able to clear pass 6800GS but still it will give it a tough fight.
 
Xcom_Cheetah said:
it has 12 pipelines.. but as far as i remember the ATI uses some crossbar sort of architecture in the core which helps to make effiecient use of 128-bit memory interface... Althouth it won't be able to clear pass 6800GS but still it will give it a tough fight.

I know, what I'm saying is that it doesn't really have the memory bandwidth for the extra quad to be useful. It probably has an internal 256-bit ringbus, but that is still waaay off the pace of a true 256-bit interface. ANyway, I just looked at a couple of X1600XT reviews and it got punished by 12-pipe X8k cards and 6800GS. It does hold it's own in 3d'05, but you can' exactly PLAY that.

So I seriously wouldn't consider it, as the specs for X1600Pro are substantially lower than the XT.
 
rincewind said:
I know, what I'm saying is that it doesn't really have the memory bandwidth for the extra quad to be useful. It probably has an internal 256-bit ringbus, but that is still waaay off the pace of a true 256-bit interface. ANyway, I just looked at a couple of X1600XT reviews and it got punished by 12-pipe X8k cards and 6800GS. It does hold it's own in 3d'05, but you can' exactly PLAY that.

So I seriously wouldn't consider it, as the specs for X1600Pro are substantially lower than the XT.
Try not to look at the older reviews of the X1600XT. The early benchmarks showed the X1600XT to be about the same speed as a 6600GT, however, by christmas the card was coming pretty close to the 6800GT and the 6800GS:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005.html

I admit though, that the 6800GS would likely still be the faster card even if they have been minor driver improvements since that particular review.
 
GVX said:
Try not to look at the older reviews of the X1600XT. The early benchmarks showed the X1600XT to be about the same speed as a 6600GT, however, by christmas the card was coming pretty close to the 6800GT and the 6800GS:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005.html

I admit though, that the 6800GS would likely still be the faster card even if they have been minor driver improvements since that particular review.

Are you reading the same thing i am? The 6800GS wins every test except like FEAR 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF when the X1600XT beats it by 1fps. Neither card is playable at those settings anyway.

Plus 6800GS is $150, great deal
 
chinesepiratefood said:
Are you reading the same thing i am? The 6800GS wins every test except like FEAR 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF when the X1600XT beats it by 1fps. Neither card is playable at those settings anyway.

Plus 6800GS is $150, great deal
Actually, when AA and AF gets enabled, the X1600XT beats the 6800GS in Age of Empires, ties in BF2, and ties in FEAR (as you said).

I admit that the 6800GS is still, without a doubt, the faster card. I'm just trying to make the point that the X1600 series has come a long way from back in October when it was just barely matching a 6600GT.
 
chinesepiratefood said:
Are you reading the same thing i am? The 6800GS wins every test except like FEAR 1600x1200 4xAA 16xAF when the X1600XT beats it by 1fps. Neither card is playable at those settings anyway.

Plus 6800GS is $150, great deal
Actually i m looking for AGP version and nowhere is AGP version of 6800GS is < $200... whereas Saphire X1600Pro AGP with 512MB is for $160... which is a real bargain... but definitely performance lag is considerable.
Anyway is there any feature in X1600 which is not in 6800GS..?
 
Xcom_Cheetah said:
Actually i m looking for AGP version and nowhere is AGP version of 6800GS is < $200... whereas Saphire X1600Pro AGP with 512MB is for $160... which is a real bargain... but definitely performance lag is considerable.
Anyway is there any feature in X1600 which is not in 6800GS..?
High Quality AF, HDR+AA, Adaptive Anti-aliasing (I"m pretty sure that Nvidia's Transparency AA is only available with GeForce 7 series cards) and obviously the larger frame buffer (512Mb vs 256Mb)
 
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