How Did Steve Jobs Get His Liver?

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Does anyone (besides the author of this article) know why this is being brought up now? And why does Jobs "owe" them answers?

Steve. We're all pulling for you. It's your life and your family. But that liver wasn't yours. Somebody died to make it available. And other people who aren't billionaires may have died on waiting lists so you could have it. What was your cancer situation when you got the transplant? Has the cancer returned? You owe us some answers.
 
What other people died? If anything one person died, but money talks! Maybe someone traded their liver for an iPad!
 
obviously from a prisoner in a 3rd world country. why, is there a problem with that?
 
I'll hate him for various things but not this. If he doesn't want to talk about it let it be.
 
It doesn't erase the questions of inequity and judgment in Jobs' transplant, but it does attest to his character. (Return to the corrected sentence.)
This country is falling deeper and deeper into socialism by the day. He's rich, he can afford to do all of these things. So what if you can't?
 
why now? because its big news that Jobs left the company over the weekend and theres gonna be some writers out there latching on to something controversial.
 
I can't stand Steve Jobs company.

But to say that Steve Jobs personal life should be on display because of this dirtbag article monkey makes me laugh.

He needs to shut his pie hole, and go on with his pathetic life. Obviously Steve jobs getting an organ touched too close to home with the author of this crap. So he lashed out at Steve. Maybe someone he knows didn't get a liver, or an organ, and because of that, he has a disdain for the way the system works.

Tough, thats how it works, he who has the most balls, gets to get pitched to the most. Don't like it, go to the source, of which Steve Jobs is not the source.

Not to mention, the comments section is riddled with Apple fans of boydom angry and defending their deity. I'm not doing that, I'm defending his right to privacy. He might be a public figurehead, but he's not a public official. He doesn't owe you an explanation for jack or shit, like it or not.

If the guys cancer has returned, then I wish a speedy recovery for him, and if that is not a possible scenario, I hope they give him the good drugs, so he goes out peacefully. Nobody deserves to suffer with cancer, but sometimes, thats just what happens.
 
It's also quite possible that someone, likely a family member, donated part of their liver to him and now both are still alive with a partial liver each.
 
he's doesnt owe anyone jack shit. The author of that article is a pompous jerkoff

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you owe us some answers!!!
 
The issue is arising now because Steve wad been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. It's a very often fatal cancer, one of the worst you can get, and assuming that it was aggressive, it had likely spread to his liver due to its proximity to the pancreas. The reason this is brought up now likely relates to the fact that if he were a normal person with pancreatic cancer (which I think has a high rate of coming back and killing a dude) then he'd have been denied the transplant in favor of someone that was less likely to die soon after receiving the organ.
I won't say that he "owes" anyone any information, but I do think that he received the liver over someone else that needed it because of who he is and the money he has to spend.
 
They probably rounded up some poor sap from the Foxconn factory in china...shipped him to the US, took his liver, shipped him back to China and threw him off the side of a Foxconn building to make it look like a suicide... :eek:
 
This country is falling deeper and deeper into socialism by the day. He's rich, he can afford to do all of these things. So what if you can't?

How can you even imply the country is "falling into socialism" when a rich man just bought his life?

It's like you don't even see the logically inconsistencies in your own rants.
 
I don't see a problem with buying a liver or a kidney or whatever. But if you don't pay for it, it should be repo'ed like in Repo Man.
 
This country is falling deeper and deeper into socialism by the day. He's rich, he can afford to do all of these things. So what if you can't?

Only if you define "Socialism" as a system where the top 1% vacuum up a higher percentage of the national wealth faster and faster each year, and the wealthy tell 80% of the populace that taking a pay cut is best for the economy, while giving themselves pay raises into infinity.

I swear, by today's standards, the 1940s and 50s were downright Communism.
 
Damn, that author is a total tool. Fine, be an apple guy if you want to but this is taking taking it a bit too far. You're not owed anything, douche.
 
How can you even imply the country is "falling into socialism" when a rich man just bought his life?

It's like you don't even see the logically inconsistencies in your own rants.

QFT. And the reason why there may be more outrage is that people die waiting for organ transplants like a liver. It is not an implausible scenario that a child died or suffered greatly reduced living standards so Steve Jobs could live a few more years.
 
Wait wait wait.... you're saying we live in a world where there are limited resources and unlimited demands and the people with more monetary purchasing power get first dibs at the limited resources? Yeah that's crazy talk! A much better system is to make sure the poorest person gets his liver first. :rolleyes:
 
Who knows it could have been some die hard Apple fanatic that offered to give Steve Jobs their liver. Seriously, you know at least ONE of them would do it.
 
I like articles that are based on the fact that the writer doesn't know anything.
 
If Jobs got his liver legally, he owes nothing to some reporter trying to make a name for his or herself.

He had the money, and facilities to be on multiple donor lists, SO WHAT? I would do the exact same if I could and had I the need. So lets try and guilt trip him, whether you get answers or not, you're going to get notoriety. Well played asshole writer, you're a piece of shit, and a disgusting human being.
 
Somebody could have died and had left it to him.. He would have just needed the money to pay for the transplant. Of course, in Arizona there was already a case of them cutting funding for the poor, and somebody on the liver transplant list losing a liver that was specifically donated to the person because, suddenly, he had to come up with $100k for the surgery.

Talk about Death Panels.
 
People don't HAVE to die for liver transplants, you know. The liver is the only organ that is regenerative. You can take one of the three lobes and transplant it into a patient. Both will grow back into full livers.
 
Well, if it were up to me, I would like to be able to SELL my organs (via last will and test.) in the event I meet my demise. I would much rather have my death benefit my FAMILY than a total stranger (no matter that stranger's situation) MY family comes first because in this day and age, nobody else is gonna look out for them. With that being said...I AM a organ donor by choice. I'm dead, I have no use for my body at that moment. If there is anything left over after I am done totally abusing and neglecting it....the general public is more than welcome to grab what they can. I dont blame Jobs for "buying" a liver. Its HIS money, its HIS life. I'm sure he has loved ones that NEED him..not just for his money...and it probably would be as sad and devastating to THEM to lose him. Nobody wins when cancer is on the table. BTW, we just lost my wife's 85 yr old grandfather to cancer recently. It hurts. Also, we are now facing a terrible fight (along)with my 14yr old daughter's best friend, T. She has thyroid cancer. Just my .02
 
The filthy rich who buy all that they want are symbolic of what makes the american dream so desirable. Steve Jobs might be a prick. Yeah, thats about all i can come up with right now.
 
People don't HAVE to die for liver transplants, you know. The liver is the only organ that is regenerative. You can take one of the three lobes and transplant it into a patient. Both will grow back into full livers.

Yeah. I don't think he should have to say anything about it.. There isn't any real proof he got a transplant through means any different than anybody else.
 
he's doesnt owe anyone jack shit. The author of that article is a pompous jerkoff
More or less. The guy doesn't have to answer to anyone about this issue. Might it be advantageous for him to do so, though? Depends on where he got the liver, I reckon.

Suffice it to say that if I could afford to buy an organ on the 'black market', breaking U.S. law to do so, in order to live, I'd sure as fuck be buying that organ. At the end of the day, we're all just trying to survive, and Jobs is no exception.
 
SO WHAT? I would do the exact same if I could and had I the need.

Agreed. I don't like Apple, but that's a business entity... we cannot condemn Steve Jobs for something that most of us would have done given the same situation.

And yes, the liver is regenerative, but I assume the point to be had is that there are more in need than there are donors, and thus the conflict is that Jobs received priority due to his wealth and status as a magnate. It's a bit unfair that such an outcome is determined by wealth, but I can't say I wouldn't use my available resources.

I'd give up a portion of my liver (if compatible) to my best friend... he has no need now, but in 20-30 years, his health will likely decline. Thus it's not unthinkable that Steve was helped by someone willing.
 
I could care less about Steve Jobs and his life, whether he dies or not.

That said, my father in law has a new liver and kidney. He was on the waiting list for 2 days before he got the call. Luck of the draw sometimes.

Granted, there are a few hospitals where transplants seem to be faster (my father in law went to one only because of great insurance).

http://www.mayoclinic.org/liver-transplant/faq.html#wait
How long can I expect to wait for a donor liver after being listed for transplant?
Wait time can vary from a number of days to several months, depending on the severity of a patient's illness. This serverity is reflected in the calculated or adjusted MELD score given to the patient.
 
Sorry, if I was a multi millionaire you can damn well bet I'm going to stack the odds in my favor to live.
 
I think the point that no one brought up with their arguments is Medical Need.

Everyone goes on a wait-list, but priority and organs go to those that meet the requirements. Alcoholics don't go to the top of the list, because their drinking ruined their first liver etc... That's an example of a medical need based decision . Which I believe these are supposed to be based on, not how much money you have in the bank.

As an example lets say you have two people a uber rich politician who needs a liver, but also has a congenital disease meaning at best he will only be able to use that liver to extend his life 3 years. Or you could give it to a 14 year old honor student who has no defects and could live a complete life if give the opportunity with a new liver.

Its ugly but these really are the decisions that get made. In Steve's case I believe he bought a home in the state he was getting the transplant and gave a very generous donation to the hospital as well.
 
He came here to Memphis & paid for it. Fact is, the rich can buy their way to the top of almost any list. Sounds like the reporter is just hating on a rich man.
 
Hemay have been on a list for a while, whose buisness is it anyway? He is paying for it with his money and his doctor and staff are being paid. Unlike most transplants that fall into tax money taking care of the bill.
 
Website with article is down due to too much traffic :(
 
All it does is prove what we all know, money is power.

Ordinary people can't compete with billionaires at meeting these tests. They can't go to multiple states for evaluations. They don't have private jets. Their insurance doesn't cover multiple evaluations and may not cover much of the half-million dollar transplant, much less the follow-up care.

*shrug*

He's still gonna die some day one way or another just like the rest of us, but until then he can play the system any way he wants because he's rich.
 
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