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how bad is the lag on 2405? owners please vote!
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i got a 2405 for xmas, and i play CS:S, BF2, etc and i really dont see it. It is there, a little bit, because its in all LCD's, but the only time i really notice it is when i have my PS2 plugged into the Component inputs, there is noticable input lag, but not when on DVI. In all reality it is not that noticable, everyone on here really blows it way out of proportion.
I play CS:S at widescreen (16:9 i think. cba to check) res at high graphics detail with a 6600GT, runs smooth.. I dont see any ghosting or lag (im also using DVI) I did get some with my xbox on the component but I plugged in the hi-def (R G B) and it ran smooth.. you just gotta try things out
He means the component (Y Pr Pb, not RGB) connection I'm sure.
I have 2 2405s and honestly I've never seen the horrible lag people complain about. There have been times when I could swear there was a *tiny* amount of it, but it's never been enough to hamper my gaming performance at all. I mostly play America's Army and WoW with a bit of UT and BF2 thrown in and when I made the switch from my last monitor (NEC MultiSync FE950+ 19" CRT) I didn't notice any change in my scores, which is all that matters to me.
I have 2 2405s and honestly I've never seen the horrible lag people complain about. There have been times when I could swear there was a *tiny* amount of it, but it's never been enough to hamper my gaming performance at all. I mostly play America's Army and WoW with a bit of UT and BF2 thrown in and when I made the switch from my last monitor (NEC MultiSync FE950+ 19" CRT) I didn't notice any change in my scores, which is all that matters to me.
Jasonx82 said:I Play Quake4, BF2, CSS all run fine with no lag/ghosting on the screen as far as i can tell.
yah, same here! i dont play any better when i play on a CRT. and i love the widescreen support via Steam! on a side note my 2405 is perfect! No backlight bleeding at all! and i keep the brightness levels a little below 50% and i dont get eye strain and what not. Its a great monitor! i would definalty get one, i might be in the market for another one, or a 3007 soon!
I have read some of the posts in the past talking about the lag on this monitor. I think at one point someone had hooked a couple of monitors up to some equipment to test it.
Well gee, from my perspective maybe some equipment can tell of some kind of lag scientifically but from my eyes, mouse hand, and playing games I do not see it or feel it. So I never quite got a grasp on where this lag thing was really coming from. My rig itself rocks with game too. But I bet I could hook it up to some equipment and OMG find something also that I can not see or feel or even imagine.
I guess a very few people notice something but I can not speak to that. Mine Rocks!
I bought mine when they came out last march. Loved it then and still do.Kicks tail in gaming.
Before this I had a 19 inch crt that was about 6 years old attached here. The 2405 is so much better than that I can't quite describe it.
Well gee, from my perspective maybe some equipment can tell of some kind of lag scientifically but from my eyes, mouse hand, and playing games I do not see it or feel it. So I never quite got a grasp on where this lag thing was really coming from. My rig itself rocks with game too. But I bet I could hook it up to some equipment and OMG find something also that I can not see or feel or even imagine.
I guess a very few people notice something but I can not speak to that. Mine Rocks!
I bought mine when they came out last march. Loved it then and still do.Kicks tail in gaming.
Before this I had a 19 inch crt that was about 6 years old attached here. The 2405 is so much better than that I can't quite describe it.
Like I said in some of my testing the Samsung 244t has very noticable input lag. Its unusable for anything IMO. However, the 2405 did show lag in tests but subjectively feels almost non existant. Its a good monitor, I just wish it had a little faster b2b response times.
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I don't notice any such thing over DVI on my 2405.
zoob said:Horrible input lag on my 2405. Sold it for the 3007WFP
The lag messed me up when I switched from my old 17" Samsung LCD. My close range combat started to suck, and my sniping went down the gutter.
First day with the 30" and I was kicking ass again
lol i had a Samsung LCD 17" as well before my 2405 and the Samsung I was unable to even play FPS'ers. The lag was so bad on that screen.
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i bought a 2405 a few weeks ago, it's beautiful, no dead pixels or any other issues. i have to send it back (unexpected money troubles), but i put it next to my television to compare...and it has some pretty noticeable lag over s-video. i was watching the same dvd side by side, and you could notice when the scene changed, the 2405 couldnt switch as fast. not that i expected it to anyway. also, due to the lag, the sound and video did not match up, meaning that when someone said something on screen, the video was a little behind the audio, and it wasnt matched. i dont think anyone expected it to respond as fast as a crt, but i just wanted to see how it would perform.
I don't own a 2405, but I just wanted to say lag or lack thereof are like the old MP3 bitrate argument. Some people say they can detect artifacts at 192kb and prefer nothing less than 320kbit encodes, etc. I still run on a 19" Samsung panel that is 25ms and game on it every day. I experience lag in the first few weeks, but it has subsided. Honestly, it's just down to the person and their perspective.
whats really weird is that when i first played quake on my 2405, i was going directly from a 19" sony crt, and could definately see ghosting, now that i've had it for several months, I never notice ghosting and it does not bother me what so ever... for me, it was easy to get used to it.. and i love my monitor, it's better than any crt
kyaku00x said:
well no, not really. I run PIP with my TV via S-Video and unless you are right next to another TV that has the same channel on you dont notice it. I also play PS2 via Component and while it does have noticable lag, i prefer it over using my 12" TV.
spotdog14 said:
Mine was a 173T with the older panel that had the higher contrast ratio (before the big hubub about mis-advertising specs). It was an amazing LCD...there was no *noticeable* lag compared to the CRT it replaced. I didn't miss my old Samsung 700NF too much.
I play UT/UT2K4 and score high. I am getting owned by people I regularly play with since I got the 2405FPW. It's going back. It feels like there is a lead weight on the mouse in games. It doesn't bother me on the desktop (it's present there too). Turn off VSync if you don't mind tearing and want to reduce the lag. Don't get this monitor if you plan to play fast paced games. Just wanted to chime in...
I found a small desktop lag the first hour or so felt like the mouse was dragging. I don't play FPS games, and I got used to the lag, after that.
I sold the monitor because of poor viewing angles (typical PVA) and excess brightness that couldn't be tamed without ruining the picture.
When I switched back to CRT, it was like my mouse was telepathic for the first little while.
I sold the monitor because of poor viewing angles (typical PVA) and excess brightness that couldn't be tamed without ruining the picture.
When I switched back to CRT, it was like my mouse was telepathic for the first little while.