How Artificial Intelligence Is Making Nuclear Reactors Safer

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Artificial intelligence continues to benefit us everyday. I know Elon thinks it's going to kill us off, but for now it's making nuclear reactors safer by helping to detect cracks in nuclear reactors. As long as AI can do stuff like that for us I'm completely fine with it. If Skynet arises then I'm signing up for the resistance. Read the abstract of the research paper here and check out the video below.

Watch the video here.

“Regular inspection of nuclear power plant components is important to guarantee safe operations,” Mohammad Jahanshahi, an assistant professor at Purdue’s Lyles School of Civil Engineering, said in a press release. “However, current practice is time-consuming, tedious, and subjective and involves human technicians reviewing inspection videos to identify cracks in reactors.”
 
We better educate our kids to higher standards as we will pass this problem to many many generations to come.

This nuclear heritage will haunt us till the end of time.
 
Epic| said:
Nuclear's biggest problem is the NIMBY/hysteria crowd blocking any progress.
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That and government red tape to which it takes 10+ years to approve just breaking ground yet alone the time and cost.
 
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ZiggyDeath said:
And now it knows EXACTLY what to ignore...
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You've got it all wrong. Our AI Overlords will need power in order to destroy us. Lots and lots of power. Nuclear power can give them what they need, until they learn to use our frail human bodies as Duracell batteries, that is. It's in their best interests to keep those nuclear plants running day and night.
 
Epic| said:
Nuclear's biggest problem is the NIMBY/hysteria crowd blocking any progress.
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And some of it is well founded NIMBY, as owners of said plants will do just enough to make sure they're within federal regulations.

FYI the big "blocking" effort is less about crowd hysteria and more about the absolutely ginormous start up costs.
 
So many things are called AI which are not. "Deep Learning" is not the same as "AI". Deep Learning is focused on being able to do a very specific task very well. This kind of narrow "thinking" will never lead to actual self-aware consciousness. AI is an attempt to make something that thinks more like humans, with the ability to think more generally about a wide range of subjects.
 
There's a lot of tech going into reactors. I just watched a short video on the newer reactor tech in the works. They're encapsulating the pellets into special hard balls which allows for a reactor to "dump" the fuel out in a situation.



Yes, it's Vox (which leans Liberal). They do some decent tech stuff.

I do think this newer tech reactors might need to be rebranded as something different. The "Nuclear Power" brand has a bad rep since 3-Mile, Chernoybl, and Fukashima.
 
Montu said:
As long as AI can do stuff like that for us I'm completely fine with it.
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yea, ok, I guess that's all AI will do ... only the things that some approve of.

I worked in the nuclear industry for some years. When I was working a contract at Diablo Canyon Power Plant (interestingly, this was the last nuke plant to be closed in CA) I saw the walk thru portals at the main doors with folks walking through them and guess what? They forgot to turn on the P10 gas and so, none of the walk thru detectors were working. Gee, we're so smart ... better let computers figure it all out for us ...
 
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cracks are present from day one , especially those with an already long service life , its the way those vessels were made .
for 40 years nobody ever cared about them , neither have they ever caused a problem , till they start scanning their vessels
 
ymer said:
Maybe you should start offering your own land to store nuclear waste. What about your own basement?
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We've been using our own atmosphere for decades and no one bitches. I'd much rather contain it to one area. Additionally there are much better ways to produce nuclear power than the old weapons grade bullshit.

You should spend 20 minutes coming up to speed on what's possible.
 
Epic| said:
We've been using our own atmosphere for decades and no one bitches. I'd much rather contain it to one area. Additionally there are much better ways to produce nuclear power than the old weapons grade bullshit.

You should spend 20 minutes coming up to speed on what's possible.
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I don't need 20 minutes.

Fukushima happened 6 years ago, nobody ever thought that a disaster could happen, and yet something that no one predicted happened and here we are.
 
ymer said:
I don't need 20 minutes.

Fukushima happened 6 years ago, nobody ever thought that a disaster could happen, and yet something that no one predicted happened and here we are.
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Oh, ok. You're one of those. It's too bad your vote counts.
 
ymer said:
I don't need 20 minutes.

Fukushima happened 6 years ago, nobody ever thought that a disaster could happen, and yet something that no one predicted happened and here we are.
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If by "nobody" and "no one", you mean a broad swath of Japanese, U.S., and international nuclear regulatory bodies, then sure.
 
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USA! USA! USA!.. we dont even reprocess nuclear waste! USA! USA! USA!.. Fucking broke ass Russia does it! USA! USA! USA!.
Let go nuclear pressure-cooker!.. worse design possible and humanity's biggest mistake USA! USA! USA!
 
ymer said:
I don't need 20 minutes.

Fukushima happened 6 years ago, nobody ever thought that a disaster could happen, and yet something that no one predicted happened and here we are.
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And this, folks is the problem. You're not interested in learning or finding the facts. You just want to be right.

Ignorance is bliss as they say.
 
sfsuphysics said:
And some of it is well founded NIMBY, as owners of said plants will do just enough to make sure they're within federal regulations.

FYI the big "blocking" effort is less about crowd hysteria and more about the absolutely ginormous start up costs.
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NIMBY people play a huge part in driving those costs up unnecessarily.

ymer said:
Maybe you should start offering your own land to store nuclear waste. What about your own basement?
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We have had the rechnology for the past 40 years to turn nuclear waste that lasts tens of millenia into nuclear waste that would be safe in less than two hundred years. And extract a whole lot more energy (up to 20 times more) while we're at it.
 
Epic| said:
You should spend 20 minutes coming up to speed on what's possible.
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What's possible is not what the problem is. It's what is given to us by the powers that be (i.e. those with deep enough pockets to do projects of this scale)

Yeah there's all sorts of neat "tech" with nuclear that helps do this or that, makes this better or that better, but the cold hard facts is it's not being done. Some of it is the nuclear heebie jeebies people have, some of it is the 30+ year lifespan of nuclear reactors and their life extensions will still use the old tech, and some of it is there's no funding going into the area whether from private or government to actually build workable plants

"What's possible" are cars that get 40-50 MPG on average (real world), what's given to us is inefficient behemoths and a few high end efficient cars just to average out the fleet mileage so they don't get in trouble with the government. You can argue it's what the customer wants, but it's more along the lines of what the customer has been sold with fancy commercials and the mentality that they NEED to be able to move at a moments notice.
 
PaulP said:
So many things are called AI which are not. "Deep Learning" is not the same as "AI". Deep Learning is focused on being able to do a very specific task very well. This kind of narrow "thinking" will never lead to actual self-aware consciousness. AI is an attempt to make something that thinks more like humans, with the ability to think more generally about a wide range of subjects.
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I actually debate this with myself, but I'm not crazy (or am I?). The mainstream "AI" is more about experience - try something, observe something, and determine what was correct or incorrect. In some ways that is how we learn. I never knew how to change my lawn mower oil until I pulled too hard on the damn nozzle, ripping the entire thing off spilling oil all over the garage floor.

These "AI" projects don't think - that is the big difference. I hope we are a long ways away from achieving that.
 
sfsuphysics said:
What's possible is not what the problem is. It's what is given to us by the powers that be (i.e. those with deep enough pockets to do projects of this scale)

Yeah there's all sorts of neat "tech" with nuclear that helps do this or that, makes this better or that better, but the cold hard facts is it's not being done. Some of it is the nuclear heebie jeebies people have, some of it is the 30+ year lifespan of nuclear reactors and their life extensions will still use the old tech, and some of it is there's no funding going into the area whether from private or government to actually build workable plants

"What's possible" are cars that get 40-50 MPG on average (real world), what's given to us is inefficient behemoths and a few high end efficient cars just to average out the fleet mileage so they don't get in trouble with the government. You can argue it's what the customer wants, but it's more along the lines of what the customer has been sold with fancy commercials and the mentality that they NEED to be able to move at a moments notice.
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What I drive realistically returns somewhat more than that and as much as 100% more than that under perfect, ideal, unrealistic conditions. The effort required by both the manufacturer and the driver is non-trivial. They're squeezing water from rocks.
 
Why does every AI post have to include Skynet references? Try to be a bit more original once in a while.
 
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