Hotter Than Hell!!!!!!! - Inland 1TB NVMe Premium $105 Microcenter ( Samsung 970 Pro Killer? )

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  1. terry gilpin

    terry gilpin n00b

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    Took the plunge and ordered one today.
     
  2. thebufenator

    thebufenator [H]ard|Gawd

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    Do my benchmarks show the wrong drive? I think they had a bit of confusion on the drive and display price tags, since the drives can look pretty much the same.
     
  3. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    I think he is talking about the CPU platform, but I'd argue that is a a pretty ignorant statement. Top Ryzens are within a stones throw of too Intel CPU's today on a per core basis. Close enough that it doesn't make a real difference. On all core workloads top AMD CPU's are beating Intel.

    ...and who knows what will happen end of the month. Especially considering all of the performance killing patches Intel CPU's keep seeing for various hardware bugs that keep coming up.


    All that said, Intel does make budget friendly NVMe drives. The 660p's for instance are quite reasonable. Nowhere near the bang for the buck as this Inland drive though.
     
  4. thebufenator

    thebufenator [H]ard|Gawd

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    I think he was referring to Intel having better controllers on their motherboard, which is true, but my benches on a Crosshair VI are not that far behind an Intel motherboard.
     
  5. xorinox

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    The couple heatsinks I have tried all came with a thickish like 1-2mm thermal tape. It covers and connects the memory, controller and ram with the heatsink. All NVME drives I have tried so far get hot under load, like hot you don't want to touch them. I am going to see if I can tigger thermal throttling when not using a heat sink vs with. Trust my case has good airflow.
     
  6. oMek

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    only issue to watch with heatsinks, the controller chip sits lower than the memory. The one I bought would not contact the controller.
     
  7. CruisD64

    CruisD64 2[H]4U

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    Couldn't you get some thermal pads to take care of that?
     
  8. encore2097

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    Thank you for this!

    E12 12.2 firmware update worked on Sabrent Rocket 1TB NVMe - lowered my drive temps!
     
  9. Hawk Hardcase

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    This was mentioned earlier in the thread, too, which is why it's very important to get 12.2 firmware!

    Okay hold onto your hats..

    Amazon has the Sabrent Rocket 1 TB normally for $133.71, take 14% off with promo code 153EBNHY and total cost is $ 113.65!

    Apply promo code to the Sabrent Rocket 2 TB, sells normally for $298.95, take 13% off with promo code 13BDRYQA and total cost is $260!

    These came out of SlickDeals.. $113.65 is cheaper than the $119 deal for the 1 TB Premium from MicroCenter..

    As has been mentioned before, the Sabrent Rocket M.2 SSD series is Phison E12 based.. and it can be updated to 12.2 firmware if you get the old 12.1.
     
  10. sirplayalot

    sirplayalot Gawd

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    This is now 104.99 !
     
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  11. coynatha

    coynatha Limp Gawd

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    Looks like everything dropped today. HP EX950 2TB is $309. Had been $319 for the last few weeks at least. (Amazon)
     
  12. Aluminum

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    $105 now, LOL! Just in time to get $20 each back from my previous run, take the savings and buy some more.

    If your local microcenter is out of drives...you probably live near me :)
     
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  13. funks

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    In for another one.. I already have two of these drives on my Ryzen desktop (which I bought for 149$ each from Amazon so 133$ + coupon is an awesome deal IMO). Will replace the one on my Hackintosh with this one - crossing my fingers, no issues. Opted for this one instead of the Inland Premium as the Sabrent Rocket has 5 year warranty when registered on Sabrent's site.

    In another note, the Samsung EVO PLUS NVME has issues with Hackintosh's (I ran into the problem, alnog with a bunch of other people), kernel panics after using the drive for a bit.. No problems with the 970 EVO's or the 970 PRO's, just the 970 EVO PLUS - must be a firmware issue.
     
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  14. Hawk Hardcase

    Hawk Hardcase n00b

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    Works fine on Macs, tested on a cheesgrater Mac Pro, 2015 MacBook Air, and recommended to others. True, Premium has only 3 year warranty but it's basically walk into a MicroCenter, say my part I bought from you is bad and they pull another off the shelf for you. Sabrent you probably have to deal with their shadowy tech support at a distance.

    No 970 EVO Plus has been shown to be compatible with Macs, just go do a search on MacRumors forums; Windows/Linux yeah just fine. Doubt it'll ever get fixed though
     
  15. SixFootDuo

    SixFootDuo [H]ardness Supreme

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    Thread updated to reflect new price.
     
  16. SixFootDuo

    SixFootDuo [H]ardness Supreme

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    HAHA
     
  17. thebufenator

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    Wait does microcenter refund price differences when a sale hits?
     
  18. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    Wow. Almost hard to believe I spent ~$340 for a 1TB 970 EVO only back in September.

    Crazy.
     
  19. eclypse

    eclypse 2[H]4U

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    They should if your within there return window.. prob 30 days for drives.
     
  20. antok86

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    would this be faster than my evo 960 as a main OS drive
     
  21. SixFootDuo

    SixFootDuo [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm going to say yes but how much so depends on your PC. Its possible you won't see any gains. If you have a high-end system you should see increases.

    I see you have a 500gb drive, flip it right away before it loses anymore value unless you want to use it for something else. This drive at $105 is a win / win regardless.
     
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  22. [L]imey

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    Just got an ASUS Zephyrus M, picked this up to replace the 256gb Samsung m.2 that's in it. Anyone know an easy way to clone the drives if I only have 1 m.2 slot?
     
  23. Lateralus

    Lateralus More [H]uman than Human

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    That is a fact. I'm getting more and more tempted to upgrade my 512GB Samsung 950 Pro. Don't really need a 1TB+ boot drive with my two 2TB SATA SSDs, but would be nice to have a little more breathing room regardless.

    I was thinking about this post and how it could apply to your situation. You could possibly connect a SATA SSD to the laptop via a USB adapter, dump your Samsung's image to it, swap the m.2 drives out, then boot to the restore media and point it to the image on the SATA HDD.
     
  24. [L]imey

    [L]imey [H]ard|Gawd

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    Also, I have never had an account with Microcenter. I placed an order as a guest and then created an account after. I don't have any emails confirming my order yet. Are they normally slow?
     
  25. shaolin95

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    yes call :

    Micro Center Online number is 614-850-3675, and then you will just hit option 3. They have a price protection policy
     
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  26. antok86

    antok86 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Purchased online but i havent gotten the email confirmation
     
  27. [L]imey

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    When did you place your order Antok?
     
  28. antok86

    antok86 [H]ardness Supreme

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    About an hour.ago
     
  29. jubalskeiki

    jubalskeiki Limp Gawd

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    10k shipping to Hawaii sort of kills the deal for me :(


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  30. MixManSC

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    Well at the price these are now I just ordered two. Now my 4 port Dell NVME card will have all 4 slots with 1TB sticks (two HP EX920 and now two of these). :)
     
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  31. The Lurker

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    You can use thermal pads to bridge the gap on the lower chips, but from experience thermal epoxy works a lot better than pads for transferring heat. Arctic silver makes two part thermal epoxy.

    IMHO, I wouldnt do any of this. If the OEM didnt intend for a heatsink to be present, then this is unnecessary.
     
  32. Lateralus

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    Nice! Does it just treat them as separate drives? Do you get full bandwidth out of each of them if you're copying between them?
     
  33. IdiotInCharge

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    I'd like to know too, just to validate how the setup should work. By design, each drive should have its own PCIe bus link, so as long as the CPU can shuttle the data back and forth, there should be no bottlenecks and full drive speeds should be achievable in any direction.
     
  34. eclypse

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    Crap my store had 4 in stock yesterday.. oh well. No double dipping for me.
     
  35. [L]imey

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    Got my email confirmation about 4am, so they must have a backlog.

    Should ship on Monday, excited to swap it out.
     
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  36. pillagenburn

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    has anyone done any write testing to these to check for number of writes until failure etc? I would think they'd be cheap enough that someone out there would run a failure test on this.
     
  37. Shadowed

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    Fantastic deal. I told a buddy about one since he lives so close to MC. I spent $180 on my 1tb NVME drive over Black Friday. Since my PC is so old (Z97) I cannot get the full speed.

    First SSD I bought was for a SATA II laptop, so I am usually behind.

    The performance boost from going from SATA to M.2 for my boot drive was big, especially moving thousands of tiny files. The latency drop from my old ssd to the m.2 one was incredible!
     
  38. MixManSC

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    Well - its a Precision T7910 (Dual E5 2667V3, 128GB reg ecc ram, older C610 chipset) so the 4 port card came with it and the motherboard has a PCIe bifurcation chip. Speeds, yes they are pretty much full speed. Of course the makeup of things affects it. A quick (not at all scientific, just timing it counting seconds in my head) test just now, a random selection of folders with 4765 files totalling 15.6gb copied from one drive to another in about 25 seconds. A single 26gb file took about 17 seconds to copy. So looks like on the single big file about 1500MB/s and the random assortment about 600MB/s. This was between two older Samsung OEM SM 951 512GB SSDs that are currently in the slots where the two new ones will end up going.
     
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  39. Jim Kim

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    I doubt anyone is going to tie up a system or 20 doing that, and unless they tested 100 or more it would be a worthless data point.
     
  40. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    The fuck?