HOT ! Various 1TB NVMe with coveted E12 Controller $135 aprox retail

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I know I'm severely limiting the performance by running the Inland drive via a USB enclosure, but I have to say it is noticeably better than the SATA drive I was using via USB previously (MX100 I think?). Use it as a boot drive for my iMac. Might be the 4KT1 performance, but duplicating files, searching,or making a bunch of updates to small files, all of that is *flying* now
 

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RE: Heat

These SSD drives can run very very warm to somewhere approaching hot by design. At one point I had the operating temp range for these chips and I remember the numbers were like 160F or something silly. Can they run hotter than the flames of hell? Probably not. When I've researched this, it was always an air-flow issue.

I'm not convinced at all this should be a serious consideration when purchasing this drive.
Thank you. Malventano in his PcPer days did a mail bag chat specifically addressing this at one point. Every time I try to tell the same thing to people, they look at me like I have a horn. For 99% of home users, thermal throttling will never be an issue.
 

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It's supposed to be a gradual increase through out 2020. To be honest, memory prices can't really go much lower, SSD's as well. It was explained to me that while consumers enjoy lower pricing, it's actually very healthy for both the consumer and manufacturer when prices are not too low. We should see 2tb and 4tb drives start to become more mainstream with prices on those sizes coming down.
Well that's a load of crap.

Yes it is healthy for the manufacturer to have better margins, but this is decidedly the opposite of healthy for the consumer.

Whoever told you that is full of it.
 

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Thread title updated to reflect new increased pricing.

Also,

SSD prices and memory are expected to raise drastically in 2020. I heard this directly from Microcenter employees that were told this thru the corporate office / meetings. If you have followed my postings here, you will know I was able to predict the 2tb NVME inland before it launched. These are the same people that gave me that info that gave me this info about the price increases.

Prices are supposed to into the $150 - $160 range for 1tb NVMe based drives by the summer.

Memory is expected to get back into the $200 range for 16gb's of DDR4.

Get your NVMe and Memory now.
Hmm.

I don't think the Threadripper needs 128GB, but maybe I'll pick up another 64GB just in case...
 
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Zarathustra[H]

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RE: Heat

These SSD drives can run very very warm to somewhere approaching hot by design. At one point I had the operating temp range for these chips and I remember the numbers were like 160F or something silly. Can they run hotter than the flames of hell? Probably not. When I've researched this, it was always an air-flow issue.

Sorry but I also think part of the problem is that people are over-reacting, finding a solution and then sharing that experience with people. Presto, you've just panicked everyone.

For example those Panasonic commercial 80mm fans that were all the rage 10 - 12 years ago. I'm not sure I really even needed them but damn, it felt good to know those loud motherfockers were cooling everything I pointed one at. I'm sure these heat-sinks have a very similar effect on people. Peace of mind as well probably reducing heat.

Imagine that you're a cave man and you're out one late morning hunting for small game and or forging for nuts and berries, plants, etc. Maybe you just wanted to go draw some graffiti on some rocks, who the hell knows ... and then one day you cross paths with a HUGE prehistoric Cave Bear standing at 11 foot tall. You run home, tell everyone what you saw and then, the whole village stays away from that part of the surrounding area. Presto, you've just panicked the whole village ( these forums ) ..... Only, it wasn't a HUGE Cave Bear, it was a much smaller bear making a lot of noise.

I've bought and used 3 of these drives personally and suggested, bought / supplied around 11 or 12 of these for clients and a few friends. 30% of them going into laptops. I've never had one issue whatsoever.

Of course these PC's and Laptop's are modern and properly ventilated.

Most of you don't have anything to worry about so you can relax.

I'm sure there are guys in here that have their PC's near vents in their room, stuffed under a small desk next to a bed or dresser, even a trash can can create a zone of warm air that's not ideal for a PC. Hell, even a small bedroom can create a warm climate zone depending on a few factors. I've even seen where case fans were never plugged in and they never thought to investigate, or became unplugged.

I'm not convinced at all this should be a serious consideration when purchasing this drive.
Hmm.

I almost wish I could throttle the drive manually.

In my laptop implementation raw speed is not really that much of a concern. I just wanted a cheap drive, and I figured why not go m.2 instead of sata?

I hadn't thought of the fact that the added heat might cause the laptop fans to go nuts, and cause rapid battery use.
 

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Well that's a load of crap.

Yes it is healthy for the manufacturer to have better margins, but this is decidedly the opposite of healthy for the consumer.

Whoever told you that is full of it.

I didn't articulate my words / meaning all that well. There is a price point that retailers try and find that is both healthy for the retailer as well as the consumer. There is a word for this they used, Ive heard it before but can't remember atm. The logic comes from looking at the bigger picture.
 

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I didn't articulate my words / meaning all that well. There is a price point that retailers try and find that is both healthy for the retailer as well as the consumer. There is a word for this they used, Ive heard it before but can't remember atm. The logic comes from looking at the bigger picture.
Capitalism?
 

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So I verified that the 1TB Inland is 12.1 firmware. Still researching updates
Oops, sorry, wasn't monitoring this thread. I have an old Reddit post here that covered 12.3 at least. According to a user in this thread, they're up to 12.6, but I haven't kept up with getting the flashable files. (edit: I see many drives come with 22.5 at least - Corsair MP510 and Silicon Power P34A80 to name two, not sure if their toolboxes would work)
 

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Thank you. Malventano in his PcPer days did a mail bag chat specifically addressing this at one point. Every time I try to tell the same thing to people, they look at me like I have a horn. For 99% of home users, thermal throttling will never be an issue.
Ha, yes he did, he also later talked about it in a Gamers Nexus video (quoted).
 

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(edit: I see many drives come with 22.5 at least - Corsair MP510 and Silicon Power P34A80 to name two, not sure if their toolboxes would work)
Yeah, guess I meant to say 22.6 (apparently I got lucky?)
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Oops, sorry, wasn't monitoring this thread. I have an old Reddit post here that covered 12.3 at least. According to a user in this thread, they're up to 12.6, but I haven't kept up with getting the flashable files. (edit: I see many drives come with 22.5 at least - Corsair MP510 and Silicon Power P34A80 to name two, not sure if their toolboxes would work)
Yeah, I found that too. Too lazy to reinstall everything. Probably stay at 12.1
 

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Yeah, I found that too. Too lazy to reinstall everything. Probably stay at 12.1
From what I understand, upgrading firmware on these is non-destructive - that means it doesn't wipe your data - but obviously I would never trust that. If you're at 12.1 (vs. 11.0) it's probably not worth upgrading, I was just giving you an option that might improve your benchmarks results. In my opinion, as I stated earlier, it's not a big deal, your AS SSD score is decent. The reason 12.1 is worthwhile is that it cleans up SLC performance.
 

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Ah man... The ram I had in my shopping card jumped by $30 too. Wonder how long this blip will last. Seems a shame to leave a chassis empty.
 

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Anyone ever keep a running list of all the e12 drives out there? That could be useful.
 

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Now $125.
... and the Inland Premium went from $139.99 to $129.99 at Microcenter and Amazon.

Unrelated to the thread but worth mentioning the Intel 660p 1TB is $109.99 at Newegg with promo code (must be email subscriber so possible YMMV). Yes I know it's QLC and the controller is not the E12, but it carries a 5 year warranty backed by Intel and it comes with Intel software.

Would rather play around with one of these E12's though. I'll repeat what others have said already - wish I grabbed one at $99!!
 
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I use the MyDigitalSSD BPX Pro as my gaming drive and have no complaints at all. It's been great (didn't realize I was already using an E12 drive before buying the Inland... lol)
 

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I'll update the thread in a day or two to reflect all the good deals on these E12 drives. I'll use the links you guys have provided.
 
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Walked into a MicroCenter and lo and behold, price of the Inland Premium jumped up $20 to 129.95! Goddamn.

The only good thing about the 'new' Inland Premium 1 TB is that it is indeed single layer, so it will fit in more laptops / badly designed Tbolt enclosures like the Wavlink.

Guess I should have bought more at the $99 pricepoint back when it was dual layer and larger DRAM.
 
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News Flash- better update the thread title, the Pioneer just went back up to $124.99 on Amazon. Grrrr! Goddamn retailers all following MC's pricing.
 
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