HOT ! Various 1TB NVMe with coveted E12 Controller $135 aprox retail

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Needed a cheap SSD for a laptop, so I picked up the 256GB version of this today at Microcenter for $37.99.

It's still imaging (via slow USB) so I guess I'll find out how I like it tomorrow.
 
DF-1 said:
I have a MSI GL63 8SE-209 on the way. I was going to get the inland premium 2tb for $215 instead of the hp ex950 for $225.

But then I ran across a thing saying that the 2tb uses a different E12S that has 1/2 the dram and no one is quite sure how bad it is. Anyone know anything?
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Mine is benchmarking about 100mbps over the advertised speeds so ~3300 read/~3000 write. From what I've read the smaller amount of RAM would probably hurt if you were using it as a server cache drive or something but for home use it's probably unnoticeable.
 
AP514 said:
Well, how do you like it ???
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All is not smooth sailing in the laptop it went into. I'm having some blue screens, and thh fans seem to be running much faster than before, but this may be a number off things going on:

1.) Could be that the Inland drive is problematic somehow.

2.) Could be the that the RAM I installed at the same time is bad or not fully compatible. (I really shouldn't have done them at the same time.)

3.) Could be a bad Dell BIOS, but I am on the latest rev (I updated it when I first started having issues)

I haven't had time to troubleshoot yet, but my first step is going to be to put the original RAM back in and see if anything improves.

If it doesn't, I'll stick the new RAM back in, and replace the drive with a data drive and see how things behave.

Might be these Del XPS 15's are just fucked. Don't know why I couldn't have a Latitude...
 
Micro Center upped the price another $10 to $119. Stinks as it was $99 less than 2 weeks ago.
 
Eshelmen said:
Are they that much worse?
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Yes. And when the price delta between the QLC drive and the better one is only 5-7%, then why penny pinch given the drawbacks.

If it was $140-150, and it was just going to be a Steam drive, maybe diff story. But for main drive, fuck QLC.
 
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My MC only offers the Phison E12 in the 2 TB flavor. At least I got a 1 TB for the threadripper box. In need of another nvme though
 
odditory said:
Yes. And when the price delta between the QLC drive and the better one is only 5-7%, utterly pointless to penny pinch given the drawbacks.

If it was $140-150, and it was just going to be a Steam drive, maybe diff story. But for main drive, fuck QLC.
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That's pretty much what I'm going for. My 1tb ssd is for my OS and the top two or three games I regularly play. My external is just not cutting it for load times. Need more stability for games.
 
I ordered the Sabrent Rocket 1TB TLC for the laptop and the PCIe 4.0 version for the desktop a couple days ago. I thought about waiting for the Inland Premium to drop in price by about $20 again for the laptop and for Samsung to release their PCIe 4.0 consumer drives until I read about the incoming price increases.
 
odditory said:
Yes. And when the price delta between the QLC drive and the better one is only 5-7%, then why penny pinch given the drawbacks.

If it was $140-150, and it was just going to be a Steam drive, maybe diff story. But for main drive, fuck QLC.
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I wouldn't buy QLC over TLC at the same price, but I have no problem with the QLC drive I have in a laptop right now. About the only concern is that they slow down when you start dumping hundreds of gigabytes onto them at full speed, but otherwise? Snappy read speeds like any other NVMe, and outside of USB3, hard to find something quick to write to it.
 
I wish I would have grabbed one when they were $99 I have a feeling the price isn't going to go back down for a while now.
 
Thread title updated to reflect new increased pricing.

Also,

SSD prices and memory are expected to raise drastically in 2020. I heard this directly from Microcenter employees that were told this thru the corporate office / meetings. If you have followed my postings here, you will know I was able to predict the 2tb NVME inland before it launched. These are the same people that gave me that info that gave me this info about the price increases.

Prices are supposed to into the $150 - $160 range for 1tb NVMe based drives by the summer.

Memory is expected to get back into the $200 range for 16gb's of DDR4.

Get your NVMe and Memory now.
 
SixFootDuo said:
Thread title updated to reflect new increased pricing.

Also,

SSD prices and memory are expected to raise drastically in 2020. I heard this directly from Microcenter employees that were told this thru the corporate office / meetings. If you have followed my postings here, you will know I was able to predict the 2tb NVME inland before it launched. These are the same people that gave me that info that gave me this info about the price increases.

Prices are supposed to into the $150 - $160 range for 1tb NVMe based drives by the summer.

Memory is expected to get back into the $200 range for 16gb's of DDR4.

Get your NVMe and Memory now.
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Now as in the next few weeks, right?
 
SixFootDuo said:
Prices are supposed to into the $150 - $160 range for 1tb NVMe based drives by the summer.

Memory is expected to get back into the $200 range for 16gb's of DDR4.

Get your NVMe and Memory now.
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Grabbed the Inland for $120 @ MC last weekend....

So you're saying I should get another 16GB for $80 while the gettin's good??
 
I'm not terribly impressed with my Inland ssd so far.

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DogsofJune said:
I'm not terribly impressed with my Inland ssd so far.

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Here's my 512gb premium in my server, from mid last year so it's seen some use. Interesting differences between the as ssd test and the crystaldiskmark one. Note I did not stop ongoing operations so this wasn't a clean testing environment. Seems my write speed have tanked a bit from doing the tests?
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Now here's my main system's 970 evo 500gb nvme, doesn't look much different? This one's been installed for over a year. Looks like it isn't suffering from the write slowdown in crystaldiskmark, though this one has more active air over it:
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Edit: What would you consider impressive?
 
SixFootDuo said:
Thread title updated to reflect new increased pricing.

Also,

SSD prices and memory are expected to raise drastically in 2020. I heard this directly from Microcenter employees that were told this thru the corporate office / meetings. If you have followed my postings here, you will know I was able to predict the 2tb NVME inland before it launched. These are the same people that gave me that info that gave me this info about the price increases.

Prices are supposed to into the $150 - $160 range for 1tb NVMe based drives by the summer.

Memory is expected to get back into the $200 range for 16gb's of DDR4.

Get your NVMe and Memory now.
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You made my life just a little more complicated and easy at the same time, thanks. ;) I am going to pick up one 32GB kit of the OLOY memory, one 16GB kit of 3600 GSkill memory and sell the kit of 16GB 2800 ram to my friend for $50. Then I will have 2 machine with 32GB, one with the 4 x 8GB 3600 Ram, one machine with the 32GB kit and one machine will stay with 16GB. I really do not need it at all but, my friend can make use of it, since he does animation and other such stuff. (He will end up with 32GB of ram as well.)

I do not want to spend the money but, if I end up needed it by the end of this year, I will deeply regret not buying it now. I have a ton of SSD storage in all 3 computers so I have no need for upgrading there for a long time to come.

Edit: The ram I am selling him is exactly the same as the ram I installed in the computer I built for him about 2.5 years ago.
 
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On the topic of increasing pricing. It looks like I'm just going to have to live with what I have.

I wanted to get a 2tb inland or sabrent, but that's just not going to happen.
 
arnemetis said:
Here's my 512gb premium in my server, from mid last year so it's seen some use. Interesting differences between the as ssd test and the crystaldiskmark one. Note I did not stop ongoing operations so this wasn't a clean testing environment. Seems my write speed have tanked a bit from doing the tests?
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Now here's my main system's 970 evo 500gb nvme, doesn't look much different? This one's been installed for over a year. Looks like it isn't suffering from the write slowdown in crystaldiskmark, though this one has more active air over it:
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Edit: What would you consider impressive?
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It was early, was looking for number in the 3k mark and it's the difference in apps for tests, but it just doesn't "feel" like the WD one in my other box.

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thecold said:
What would you consider impressive? I mean it lands exactly where it's expected as it's class/model/controller.
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Filling up the rest of the m2 slots on this mobo and raid.

As I said, just "feels" sluggish at times
 
It's supposed to be a gradual increase through out 2020. To be honest, memory prices can't really go much lower, SSD's as well. It was explained to me that while consumers enjoy lower pricing, it's actually very healthy for both the consumer and manufacturer when prices are not too low. We should see 2tb and 4tb drives start to become more mainstream with prices on those sizes coming down.

They guys at Microcenter were all around me trying to explain this and that to me, giving me examples, etc etc.

For example they had a bin full of 120 SSD's for $15 or $17 each. There isn't a lot of profit on those drives for the manufacture / reseller. The same logic starts to apply to 1tb NVMe drives when they are $89 dollars or in that area.

Time will tell but I have no doubt that prices will increase. How fast to how much? Only time will tell.

I think it's a safe bet to buy now while $120 is honestly, not a lot of money considering the massive performance gain you get.

1tb NVMe drivers were $200 - $250 12 - 13 months ago, easy.

What's a fair price to most of you? For me, it's $150 ... I've more than comfortable spending that kind of money.

Of course this is all speculation on my part and or "rumors" I'm hearing from the Microcenter sales guys.
 
SixFootDuo said:
It's supposed to be a gradual increase through out 2020. To be honest, memory prices can't really go much lower, SSD's as well. It was explained to me that while consumers enjoy lower pricing, it's actually very healthy for both the consumer and manufacturer when prices are not too low. We should see 2tb and 4tb drives start to become more mainstream with prices on those sizes coming down.

They guys at Microcenter were all around me trying to explain this and that to me, giving me examples, etc etc.

For example they had a bin full of 120 SSD's for $15 or $17 each. There isn't a lot of profit on those drives for the manufacture / reseller. The same logic starts to apply to 1tb NVMe drives when they are $89 dollars or in that area.

Time will tell but I have no doubt that prices will increase. How fast to how much? Only time will tell.

I think it's a safe bet to buy now while $120 is honestly, not a lot of money considering the massive performance gain you get.

1tb NVMe drivers were $200 - $250 12 - 13 months ago, easy.

What's a fair price to most of you? For me, it's $150 ... I've more than comfortable spending that kind of money.

Of course this is all speculation on my part and or "rumors" I'm hearing from the Microcenter sales guys.
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It doesn't seem like rumors since the drive has gone up to $140 since yesterday. That is a 40% increase in the last few months.
 
vegeta535 said:
It doesn't seem like rumors since the drive has gone up to $140 since yesterday. That is a 40% increase in the last few months.
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Amazon still has them for $129 right now. Ordered one from there the other day cause it ships free.
 
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