HOT: Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD PCI-Express 3.0 x4 $109 Newegg

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  1. SixFootDuo

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    HOT: Intel 660p 1TB NVMe SSD PCI-Express 3.0 x4 $109 Newegg

    1800MBs Read / 1800MBs / Write, or so.

    https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?sdtid=12874948&SID=79c3b4423a0b11e984433e364c14c4010INT&AID=10446076&PID=1225267&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Slickdeals LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&Item=9SIA6ZP8A93479&ignorebbr=1&cm_sp=

    HardOCP community discussion on this drive https://hardforum.com/threads/hot-i...ssd-124-amazon-use-hardocp-affiliate.1977614/


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  2. Adidas4275

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    these are getting cheap!

    I know the issues they have but man 1TB for almost $100 is a nice price
     
  3. Betauser

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    If you dont mind, what issue they've had or having? Planing to get one.

     
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  4. sabrewolf732

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    they slow to a crawl when moving massive amounts of data, and they slow down when using over 50% of capacity.
     
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  5. wadec22

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    PC perspective did a great job communicating what this drive is and does.



    33 min into it Allen talks about it in detail and he knows his drives. It's a great drive for it's target audience. You need to determine if that's you.
     
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  6. Adidas4275

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    sad that whole PCper group is gone ;(

    They were such a good resource for so long. Happy for them they got great jobs, but a loss for the rest of us
     
  7. Staples

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    A hellava deal.

    I agree. They were the best of the old PC hardware sites still around.
    Hell, I remember Sharkyextreme and they were great till he left.
     
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  8. Grimlaking

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    Meh I wouldn't say they were the best. They were good... but I'm really only active on one forum for consumer tech review sites.... ahem. *looks around*
     
  9. SixFootDuo

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    Just to reign this back in a bit and bring a bit more perspective to this deal, we are talking a 1tb NVMe SSD for $100 dollars basically ... even when it's nearly full / full .. it still out performs a sata3 SSD.

    If you're stuffing your boot drives up to the brim, filling them up, imho, you're doing it way way wrong.
     
  10. Staples

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    In for one.
    One of my WD Black spinners (11yo) just went out a few weeks ago. This should make a great replacement.

    Now I need to upgrade to a motherboard that has a native slot.
    I have an older M.2 drive. I use an adapter that plugs into a PCI-E slot and uses a SATA cable to connect to the SATA controller. Of course I am limited to 6GB speeds.
    Are there any adapter that plug into a PCI-E slot and actually use the PCI-E bus for data transfer? Presumably the bandwidth of the PCI-e x4 bus is faster than the SATA3 controller.
     
  11. sabrewolf732

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    I bit on this for my main drive. I also have a seagate 2TB hybrid drive that I'll run as a secondary. Old samsung evo and crucial mx100 will go to spare PCs
     
  12. Furious_Styles

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    This isn't newegg it's an affiliate. So keep that in mind when buying.
     
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    Does anyone test these NVMe drives on the M.2 slot on the back of a motherboard? Obviously not touching the case but just isolated and I don't think air will move much back there.

    Then logically I would use a SATA drive back there but the motherboard manual is clear it's incompatible for SATA and that isn't going to work.
     
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    I've used a m.2 slot on the back of a board before but that's because my particular case had a cutout around that spot so it wasn't an issue anyway. I think you'll need to see the case as YMMV for sure.
     
  16. Staples

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    If it means anything, I got a shipping confirmation number within 2 hours after ordering.
     
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  17. M76

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    I already filled mine over half and I get the same transfer speeds when it was empty.
     
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  18. jmilcher

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    I am happy with it and I paid 125. So if it ships for 110 it should make someone happy.
     
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  19. geok1ng

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    11c/GB is the best SSD price i have ever seen.

    Nope, it does not
    write latency is terrible.
    - Good gaming/midia drive
    -Would never use it as scrath drive for video editing
    -If i can keep it below 50%, could consider using it as a boot drive, but then again, 3D NAND SATA is not that expensive(13-15c/GB), and i could enjoy the full capacity without caveats.
     
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    Good gaming / media drive? I mean, isn't that what people are using these drives for %99.9% of the time for?

    No one is expecting this drive to be KING SHIT of them all, it's a $100 NVMe 1TB drive ... that's just crazy insane price.

    I really don't get anything negative about this $100 NVMe 1TB drive. No one here is expecting this thing to grab a beer from the fridge, fix it a sandwich and do their laundry.

    Just trying to get these kids a drive to load up their games quickly, their apps, etc etc for cheap. Not find them a SSD that's going to be able to perform brain surgery on them.
     
  21. Jim Kim

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    It's a drive that delivers M.2 NVME PCIe speeds at SATA prices and for the majority of people that will use it that's good enough.
    Those that need it for a special purpose will know enough to understand that it's not for them and if they don't it's caveat emptor all the way.
     
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  22. SixFootDuo

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    well said
     
  23. M76

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    1. Depends on the workload, in sequential reads/writes it outperforms sata drives by a margin of about 1:3.
    2. Yes, write latency is terrible fora modern SSD. For someone coming from a spinner drive or from a first gen SSD it's still heaven on earth.
    3. Isn't that what almost every SSD is used for? As a gaming or application drive?
    4. And that was said numerous times that it is not for that, even by me in this thread that it is not for editing hundreds of GBs worth of video data. Does that make it less of a bargain? Nope.
    5. Boot drives get tons of writes so no, it shouldn't be used as a boot drive. This is a born gaming drive, nothing more, nothing less. And as I've said that 50% myth is just that, a myth. Performance doesn't tank after 50% I still get the same 1600Mb/s reads.
     
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    It is the single cheapest 1TB SSD on market, by at least a 20% margin here in CEU, including the cheapest SATA drives. So it does it at less than SATA prices.
     
  25. SixFootDuo

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    I just realized something, society is not ready for cheap 1tb NVMe SSD's @ a $100 price point. Maybe the Russians or Chinese are behind this price drop? And I think we now have secretive CIA "tech" operatives among us trying to spin how this possibly could not be a good deal at $100 from just about every possible "tech" logic known and unknown to man-kind.

    And it's working guys, my mind is telling me there is just NO damn way folks this could be a good deal at all @ $100 dollars. No way I tell ya'll. My head hurts, it hurts ... the "tech" demons are in my head now.

    Wait, I just heard a voice, a voice inside my head ...... it's telling me that this $100 1TB NVMe SSD will burst into flames when it' half full ... that's it's made out of the cheapest possible materials known and unknown to man-kind.

    I'm scared guys, I'm really scared ... I am going to go to hell for buying one of these $100 1tb NVMe SSD drives with a 5 year warranty ..... it's going to blow up in the middle of the night now and take my computer with it ... so scared guys, so scared.
     
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  26. jmilcher

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    for what it’s worth, in case anyone searches the internet and finds this post in a decade, I was able to use this in the following:

    2015 MacBook Pro 13” with Mojave.

    Used it with a sintech adapter for ngff to nvme.

    Boot camp did not work properly, but it’s buggy and rarely does. For what it’s worth bootcsmp failed to work properly on the stock apple ssd until I did some work on it.

    But I manually installed Windows 10 on usb, and had zero issues with this ssd.

    Writes are more than twice as fast as the stock ssd. Reads are about 10-15% faster.
     
  27. singe_101

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    Have you ever used an external M.2 enclosure?
     
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    I did. I actually ran bootcamp off an external for a while.

    But with the price of this drive, I no longer had to do that. Other than manually installing windows and partitioning the drive, it wasn’t bad.

    And it feels much faster not running Windows off a external dongle.
     
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    Well I wasn't planning on getting one of these, but I apparently maxed out my game drive yesterday. I figure this thing is basically the perfect drive for gaming...especially at ~10c per gigabyte.
     
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    Yeah it's really hard to beat the price/performance of this drive for gaming.
     
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    This would be perfect for that. It’s actually cheaper per gb than the 2 tb variant which is rare.
     
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    Very nearly my situation. Put it in a 2017 MacBook Air (not the 2018 let down model). Used the Sintech adaptor. Zero problems with installation. I did put some thermal tape between the drive and the bottom plate to pull away the heat. The 660p in particular has very low power usage compared to the “high performance” drives like the Samsungs. Which is good for battery life. NVME drives use a lot of power, so watch out for that on laptop installations.

    Boot camp also failed for me, was it on the copying part? To the FAT32 temp drive? I ended up using Parallels, which is great aside from the hundred dollar price tag. I have a previous Windows 10 installation on an external thunderbolt 2 SSD that I can use if I absolutely need all the performance.

    But overall, I’m happy with this drive. It’s faster than the 128GB that came with the Air and I only payed $140, which was still a great price.

    For those thinking, the stock Apple drives are a little longer than a standard NVME. The Sintech adaptor also makes the drive longer in addition to fixing the connector differences.
     
  33. jmilcher

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    One great reason I chose the drive besides price was the low energy consumption. That’s very important to me vs performance for my situation.

    It failed either at “creating partition” when it started to attempt to copy the files. It tries to change the partition before copying the files and fails.

    Boot amp is buggy at best and people struggle with on all apple hardware much of the time.

    I did not want to run a virtual machine. I didn’t not need to flip between the os’s without rebooting and I was not going to spend a hundred bucks on a now annual licensing scheme. If you needed to run Windows in a vm in order to flip between them as needed that would make sense.


    Windows is much more responsive imo when it has access to all resources on th hardware.

    Anyways I just made a bootable usb drive in Mojave, and prepared a usb stick with the windows drivers downloaded from the boot camp assistant menu.

    Partition the drive outside of the os using a bootable apple installation usb drive. Under utilities partition your disk accordingly. The format doesn’t matter since windows will reformat the partition during installation anyways.

    Reboot, hold the option key with the Windows 10 (Mac formatted) bootable stick. Choose “EFI” as the boot drive and install windows as you normally would.

    Once Windows boots, plug in the usb stick with the windows drivers boot camp assistant made.

    Install the drivers and bam you are all set.

    Boot camp is not a requirement. It was just a tool to sometimes help.

    I will say once I understood I didn’t need bootcamp to do it, a understood how to do it, dual booting this machine with Windows was actually very simple with the correct tools.

    And if you ever decide to remove the windows partition in the future, it’s much easier imo than dealing with a windows dual boot setup.
     
  34. geok1ng

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    The 2TB has twice the SLC cache and twice the wirte endurance.

    Not sure if it has more DRAM cache. the 1TB has 256MB DRAM, about 1/4 of the DRAM available on othet 1TB SSDs.
     
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    i couldn't agree more, quad nand performance is all over the place.
     
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    I just got it and now I have two :D Moved all my games to the 2nd drive and have one dedicated to windows 10 and certain programs.