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It's more like $650 for the 6700K + GTX 970 no? So the rest of the build (case, OS, RAM, PSU, HSF, and 2TB HDD) runs you $225... You are NOT gonna do better than that DIY. The DDR4, HDD, and OS alone are worth the $225; so if you want all those things and can live with a PSU/mobo that are an unknown quantity this might be worth it.
Just saying, even with a case and/or mobo swap it comes in ahead of DIY prices. I do wonder how they arrived at 12GB tho, hopefully it's 4+4+2+2 and not some other config that leaves you with single channel bandwidth, could easily see them doing that tho. In truth, larger DIMMs would probably be more useful in the long run.
That case's airflow scares me. Doesn't look like there is much ventilation and is that a single 80mm fan in the back? Probably sounds like a wind tunnel when gaming.
If you need a gaming rig though and didn't want to build it yourself this is a cheap option...but yeah I'd personally be willing to pay more for a quieter, better case with more control over the PSU and other options.
Also my full ATX mobo days are over...
I think most people will have to pay tax so the difference for the other parts is still closer to $300.
$300 for those parts is still a deal...he forgot to put in motherboard in his $225 comment. That alone is around $90-100+ for a Z150/Z170 board.
It's more like $650 for the 6700K + GTX 970 no? So the rest of the build (case, OS, RAM, PSU, HSF, and 2TB HDD) runs you $225... You are NOT gonna do better than that DIY. The DDR4, HDD, and OS alone are worth the $225; so if you want all those things and can live with a PSU/mobo that are an unknown quantity this might be worth it.
Just saying, even with a case and/or mobo swap it comes in ahead of DIY prices. I do wonder how they arrived at 12GB tho, hopefully it's 4+4+2+2 and not some other config that leaves you with single channel bandwidth, could easily see them doing that tho. In truth, larger DIMMs would probably be more useful in the long run.
True, I'm guessing that does disable dual channel?
is a 6700k worth the upgrade over a 4790?
Probably not since you have to do a whole platform upgrade for marginal performance updates.
well I am looking to get a prebuilt for a friend ,I can get a 4790 system for $600, or this for $850. This has a better gpu and DDR4, but other than that....
Depends on what GPU is in the other system. I mean a 970 is pretty high end for the average person, and a new one still goes for over $300 if you were going to upgrade yourself.
Given the diminutive form-factor, I was figuring they are using a tweaked board design with only two RAM slots, so a single 8 and a single 4 would give you 12GB. This lets them get rid of some 4GB sticks or charge a bit more to go full on 16GB.
That is correct. It is config'ed with 1x8GB and 1x4GB.
That is correct. It is config'ed with 1x8GB and 1x4GB.
Personally I would swap the 12GB of retarded single channel ram for 16GB (8GBx2) and the 2TB HDD for a 256GB SSD and with the 970 and the 500W PSU (which is a $30 "upgrade" over the base 300W PoS) the total is only $910...Well worth the extra $35 to get 4GB of extra ram+dual channel support and an SSD vs a HDD...
For anyone considering this, keep in mind the ship date isn't until Oct 5th as of this post..Looks like HP might be having some supply issues with SkyLake?
Personally I would swap the 12GB of retarded single channel ram for 16GB (8GBx2) and the 2TB HDD for a 256GB SSD and with the 970 and the 500W PSU (which is a $30 "upgrade" over the base 300W PoS) the total is only $910...Well worth the extra $35 to get 4GB of extra ram+dual channel support and an SSD vs a HDD...
For anyone considering this, keep in mind the ship date isn't until Oct 5th as of this post..Looks like HP might be having some supply issues with SkyLake?
That's just stupid on their part (and the consumer I guess for not doing any research). You spend $900 on a new computer and don't even get dual channel memory...something that has been around since the old Nforce2 chipset and the Athlon XP's.
Flex mode
This mode results in both dual and single-channel operation across the whole of DRAM memory. The figure shows a flex mode configuration using two DIMMs. The operation is as follows:
The 2 GB DIMM in slot 1 and the lower 2 GB of the DIMM in slot 2 operate together in dual-channel mode.
The remaining (upper) 2 GB of the DIMM in slot 2 operates in single-channel mode.