Hopper in 1 year and not 2?

sirmonkey1985

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doubt it.. maybe on the enterprise side at the ultra top end but generally nvidia has stuck to their minimum 2 year release cycle on the consumer side.. both Nvidia and AMD have pretty much agreed that the 1 year release cycle fiesta that was happening about 10 years ago was unsustainable.
 

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I can see NVidia deciding to reserve more capacity up front after AMD squeezed them out badly on 7nm; but don't see any radical changes likely unless AMDs next generation is fast enough to require it. OTOH The 30xx cards have been delayed a few months because of Corona disrupting supply chains; I could see Hopper still being planned to launch 2 years after when Ampere was supposed to be launched leaving the latter with a slightly shorter lifetime.

The real question is when in 2021 will NVidia's reserved 5nm capacity need to be used. If not until very late in the year, a slightly early Hopper is plausible. If in the first 2/3rds or 3/4ths of the year, starting with a die shrunk Ampere refresh seems more plausible.
 

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No credibility at all. All kind of talk cropped up with Turing that it was a placeholder, and that 7nm NVidia cards would be arriving in 6 months... We know how that turned out.

The reality of this game, is that it costs Hundreds of Millions of dollars to launch a new line of GPUs, they need to run them as long as possible to make back that massive up front investment.

2 years is pretty much to be expected going forward.
 

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doubt it.. maybe on the enterprise side at the ultra top end but generally nvidia has stuck to their minimum 2 year release cycle on the consumer side.. both Nvidia and AMD have pretty much agreed that the 1 year release cycle fiesta that was happening about 10 years ago was unsustainable.
I recall nvidia used to have a 6 month cycle. Those were the days :D :D

They even tried to implement a 6-12 month cycle when they tried to enter the mobile market. It failed even before it started. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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I recall nvidia used to have a 6 month cycle. Those were the days :D :D

They even tried to implement a 6-12 month cycle when they tried to enter the mobile market. It failed even before it started. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
Manufacturing and R&D costs was a lot cheaper 20 years ago.
 

Stoly

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https://www.notebookcheck.net/DigiT...5-nm-Hopper-GPUs-one-year-later.464133.0.html

I am not sure about the credibility so i wanted to know if you guys heard anything? Do you guys think the 3xxx Series will be short lived? Or run out 2 years?
I would have believed it if "Big Ampere" wasn't released already. But it seems nvidia has consolidated top to bottom. After Volta/Turing. They are still missing a SoC for their self driving/AI/robotics solutions, so there's that.

I do think nvidia could come up with a "tweaked ampere refresh" on a smaller process if its viable.
 

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I would have believed it if "Big Ampere" wasn't released already. But it seems nvidia has consolidated top to bottom. After Volta/Turing. They are still missing a SoC for their self driving/AI/robotics solutions, so there's that.

I do think nvidia could come up with a "tweaked ampere refresh" on a smaller process if its viable.
When was the last time they did that? With Tesla 11 years ago?
 
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