Hearthstone

I only just got into the game the other day, This is my best battle yet. Priest had 22 health left and i had 1 and i killed him in one round haha. (Got a lucky fire ball)

 
I really like this game. I am still terrible in Arena, getting better at the draft but still need work on execution during games.

I have had the game go both ways for me. Sometimes I think I have it won and lose and vice versa. I have lost when I had 20+ health and they had less than 5.

I sometimes play the early game too fast and probably miss calculate things.
 
mngl1200 said:
I had a game drag out so long I won because the other guy ran out of cards. 5 rounds of him getting no cards killed him. I played paladin and he played mage.
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I have played against a rouge who's deck has the sole purpose was to wombo combo cards that make the opponent draw so many cards that they get discarded. Also makes a mage deck out so quick, and just kill you with the over draw.
 
Well for fun last night I installed Hearthstone on my Dell Venue 8 Pro and it runs great with the touchscreen.

Now I have another game to play during lunch at work.
 
Been playing this a bit lately, still new'ish. Mostly been rolling a level 10 custom deck control druid. Takes some getting used to but if I control enemy minions and basically keep 1-2 cards for end game I win every time. Aggro rush decks crush me, everything else is manageable.
 
Either people are getting worse at arena or I've gotten a fair amount better. 7 of my last 9 runs have been 7+ including one 12-1
 
ive been having Horrid luck in the arena lately, the amount of b.s decks i go against with so much damn removal, counters and legends its just been horrid.... ill have a good deck im like yeah this should go at least 5 wins, i'll win 2 straight and then get completely destoryed or rng'd to death at the end. then ill build a deck that is plain garbage and go 5 wins.

been stuck around 7 to 8 wins.

in constructed im rank 12 right now with Rogue midrange.

still obsessed with the game tho.

however in march ill prob be taking a short break. Titanfall coming out and South Park Stick of Truth need some attention.
 
i have the worst f'n luck in the arena. i keep losing with good decks barely at the end. and i dont draw the shit i need to win and its GG..... perfect play at the end of the game i have 2 giants i dont pull either of them. i love when im counting my outs and i have like 10 outs to win the game and 15 cards in the deck and i dont get the 10 outs and its GG..

im pretty frustrated right now after the match i just had.. such b.s
 
I do not just get arena. I have gotten better at drafting and understanding the value and strengths of cards; however, I still cant muster more than 3-4 wins per run.

I just don't get what I am doing wrong, I play pretty well in constructed.

Really enjoying this game though. It has seemed to give me my card game fix without have to drop ass loads of money on MTGO. I am glad I never pulled the trigger on that.
 
Syntaxx said:
i have the worst f'n luck in the arena. i keep losing with good decks barely at the end. and i dont draw the shit i need to win and its GG..... perfect play at the end of the game i have 2 giants i dont pull either of them. i love when im counting my outs and i have like 10 outs to win the game and 15 cards in the deck and i dont get the 10 outs and its GG..

im pretty frustrated right now after the match i just had.. such b.s
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XvMMvX said:
I do not just get arena. I have gotten better at drafting and understanding the value and strengths of cards; however, I still cant muster more than 3-4 wins per run.

I just don't get what I am doing wrong, I play pretty well in constructed.

Really enjoying this game though. It has seemed to give me my card game fix without have to drop ass loads of money on MTGO. I am glad I never pulled the trigger on that.
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Syntaxx said:
ive been having Horrid luck in the arena lately, the amount of b.s decks i go against with so much damn removal, counters and legends its just been horrid.... ill have a good deck im like yeah this should go at least 5 wins, i'll win 2 straight and then get completely destoryed or rng'd to death at the end. then ill build a deck that is plain garbage and go 5 wins.

been stuck around 7 to 8 wins.

in constructed im rank 12 right now with Rogue midrange.

still obsessed with the game tho.

however in march ill prob be taking a short break. Titanfall coming out and South Park Stick of Truth need some attention.
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Hahaha exactly where I'm at too guys! I'll make a deck that's pretty decent, then win maybe 4 games, before losing 2 or 3 games in a row. The last deck I made was a rogue that had 4 eviscerates, plenty of 2's and 3's to combo all of them if I wanted. Went 2-0 right off the bat, then lost the next 2 before winning 2 more...

Edit: Also what the FUCK is up with druid armor. It seriously has me pissed off the last few days, there was an arena game where the druid was down to 2 health. Had a 10/1 on the board, hero powered and attacked it, only took the 1 armor away. He preceded to beat me in the next 3 turns. I've been trying to pay more attention, it seems like maybe half the time or a little more a druid will only lose his armor no matter how high of an attack something has, then not as often I see it working like the rest ( subtracting health after excess damage thru armor )
 
I've never seen that with Druid.

It's really not about just drafting the best card, and the best card isn't always the same for different classes. For example Hunter/Warlock generally want to draft faster decks, while Druid/Paladin want to draft slower decks. Then it's about picking the cards that support that best. On top of that, you need to make sure you have a good curve. I had 8 out of 10 arena runs at 7+, with the 2 that didn't refund both getting 5. I followed that up with a 2-3 because for the life of me I couldn't get a curve and basically had all 4's with just a few everything else. I had really good 4's, like 3 Truesilver, 2 Consecrate, 2 Blessing of Kings, 2 Yeti, but the lack of both an early and late game just meant I got annihilated.

A lot of the time in arena people underutilize their hero power. On a class like Shaman you want a lower curve for 2 reasons. 1 you're probably going to overload and still want something to play, and 2 you want to be able to totem often. But you don't want to draft too many support cards. Yes, Flametongue totem is amazing, no you don't want 3 of them. Stuff like that, you don't want too many cards that are going to end up rotting in your hand if you don't have board control

I also see a lot of people not clear when they really should because they don't think about what could go wrong if they don't, and it costs them the game.
 
Played a game with my Paladin deck last night that was just bizarre.

It was against a Warlock and I got the worst starting hand EVER. I had no cards to play (even after taking the mulligan) until turn 4, but they all synergized together so I was really limited on how I could play them to any effect.

The game went on for a while and he actually got me down to 1 health, but then I was able to take board control back and I decided to keep playing until he eventually killed me with a direct damage spell.

This NEVER happened! The most bizarre thing was when he used Drain Life against a minion (I had no taunt on the field) instead of hitting me with it! I couldn't believe he did that! Then I turned the entire game around (got back 2 health from Truesilver, so I was at 3) and then I murdered him with a 2X blessing of kings minion.

I had no right to win that game, but I did. So bizarre!
 
I am pretty impressed they took down Hearthstone for 8 hours today and didn't actually patch anything in the game. I lost a few games over the weekend due to bugs, it is getting a bit ridiculous how long it is taking them to fix simple issues with core game play (positioning bugs, cards in hand overlapping, cards "floating" off the screen, secrets covering up creatures if you counter another secret with one...).

Slow changes to the game and content will be what eventually kills it. The "Its a beta" thing shouldn't be an excuse, solving these problems isn't hard in Unity.
 
ocellaris said:
I am pretty impressed they took down Hearthstone for 8 hours today and didn't actually patch anything in the game. I lost a few games over the weekend due to bugs, it is getting a bit ridiculous how long it is taking them to fix simple issues with core game play (positioning bugs, cards in hand overlapping, cards "floating" off the screen, secrets covering up creatures if you counter another secret with one...).

Slow changes to the game and content will be what eventually kills it. The "Its a beta" thing shouldn't be an excuse, solving these problems isn't hard in Unity.
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I agree that game breaking bugs have been around for too long. But Blizzard takes down all battle.net games on tuesdays whether or not they have a patch. As far as I know hearthstone has about 20 something odd people in the dev team which isnt an excuse for the card overlapping bug to exist for so long. Though so far I find that if you play the card farthest to the left it fixes the bug lol.
 
Ah, I thought the 8 hours of downtime days were for patches. 20 people on a team for a game like Hearthstone seems appropriate. I would love to be a fly on the wall int those planning meetings to see how they manage to not fix issues for so long.

I understand most games proceed fine without encountering bugs, it is just extremely frustrating to lose because of a bug that has been around for multiple months. The Chinese knockoff version of Hearthstone has the bugs fixed as well (allegedly).

I stopped spending money on the game until they manage to show some motivation towards fixing it.
 
ocellaris said:
Ah, I thought the 8 hours of downtime days were for patches. 20 people on a team for a game like Hearthstone seems appropriate. I would love to be a fly on the wall int those planning meetings to see how they manage to not fix issues for so long.

I understand most games proceed fine without encountering bugs, it is just extremely frustrating to lose because of a bug that has been around for multiple months. The Chinese knockoff version of Hearthstone has the bugs fixed as well (allegedly).

I stopped spending money on the game until they manage to show some motivation towards fixing it.
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I absolutely agree with you. I spent $50 on the game and thats all I will ever spend. Blizzard takes down all battle.net games so they can do server maintenance and patches whether or not patches are there they will still take it down. But yea I have lost one game because of a bug and when I watch people like Trump play and see the bug decide whether or not he will get the fireball off and win the game or lose it pisses me off a lot.
 
I love watching Trump play. I'm such a backseat gamer. But I have learned A LOT from watching Trump. Also like Kripp when Trump is not streaming.
 
EdGaRRRRR said:
I love watching Trump play. I'm such a backseat gamer. But I have learned A LOT from watching Trump. Also like Kripp when Trump is not streaming.
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Yea, I love watching them both play. Trump more than kripp because he always trys to explain his reasoning and that I am trying to get decent at arena which Trump is a master at. Watching people play in Hearthstone is very beneficial because I get to know different decks and different strategies that I might not see otherwise.
 
ocellaris said:
I am pretty impressed they took down Hearthstone for 8 hours today and didn't actually patch anything in the game. I lost a few games over the weekend due to bugs, it is getting a bit ridiculous how long it is taking them to fix simple issues with core game play (positioning bugs, cards in hand overlapping, cards "floating" off the screen, secrets covering up creatures if you counter another secret with one...).

Slow changes to the game and content will be what eventually kills it. The "Its a beta" thing shouldn't be an excuse, solving these problems isn't hard in Unity.
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$20 says they'll release a "mega patch" to deal with these issues eventually and it will break so many other things that they'll roll it back or else it'll take down the servers for an entire day or more. It's Blizzard Patching 101. You don't fix individual issues. You save them all up and try to make a blanket patch. It's never worked right for any of their games, yet they keep on trying, year after year.
 
Astral Abyss said:
$20 says they'll release a "mega patch" to deal with these issues eventually and it will break so many other things that they'll roll it back or else it'll take down the servers for an entire day or more. It's Blizzard Patching 101. You don't fix individual issues. You save them all up and try to make a blanket patch. It's never worked right for any of their games, yet they keep on trying, year after year.
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Ah yes, the classic Blizzard approach... "We noticed one class was a bit unbalanced, so we decided to make you wait three months and then change every spell they have at at the same time to balance things out"

*three months later*

"We are monitoring class balance at all points in time, DPS meters don't mean anything"
 
ocellaris said:
ISlow changes to the game and content will be what eventually kills it. The "Its a beta" thing shouldn't be an excuse, solving these problems isn't hard in Unity.
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Actually, I suspect that is the problem. Unity. Every single Unity game I've played has had rather a lot of bugs, and many of them seem to persist for long periods of time. Hell the whole Unity3D engine wouldn't run on my system because I had a font installed it didn't like (seriously, all Unity games crashed because the file UNCL.TTF was in my fonts directory, removing that fixed it).

I think because of the way Unity is bolted together from QT, Mono, and so on and tries to abstract everything, it ends up being harder to debug some issues than with other engines.

That aside I just tried Hearthstone and... I'm not seeing how people get in to this game. I like the concept but this pay-2-win crap is annoying. I know, I know, the high end cards can't better than the basic ones but creating a nice and balanced deck needs lots of cards and that means either buying cards, or being a punching bag.

I fail to see any appeal in this game, on account of the F2P model. I don't want to spend tons of time losing over and over saying "man if I just could have had car X, Y, or Z in my deck I could have done it!" and I don't want to give them money to reward a design like that.
 
Ya, Hearthstone is officially the biggest bunch of pay-2-win BS I've seen in a long time. It's match making that "matches you against an opponent of equal skill" means "Puts your brand new deck composed of nothing but basic cards up against a guy with multiple golden legendaries. Are you SURE you wouldn't like to give us a bunch of money to get similar cards?"

This just again reinforces my dislike against free to play games. Fortunately, I have given them $0 so nothing lost. It just amazes me at how companies keep doing this, and more that people keep buying in to it. I keep hoping shit like this will die off, but it shows no sign of it.
 
Sycraft said:
Ya, Hearthstone is officially the biggest bunch of pay-2-win BS I've seen in a long time. It's match making that "matches you against an opponent of equal skill" means "Puts your brand new deck composed of nothing but basic cards up against a guy with multiple golden legendaries. Are you SURE you wouldn't like to give us a bunch of money to get similar cards?"

This just again reinforces my dislike against free to play games. Fortunately, I have given them $0 so nothing lost. It just amazes me at how companies keep doing this, and more that people keep buying in to it. I keep hoping shit like this will die off, but it shows no sign of it.
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Well, depends on how you play and RNG. Trump went through and beat multiple Legendary Warrior decks with his F2P I didnt spend a single dollar mage deck. Also this is a TCG of course those with money and time have better decks, doesnt mean they will beat you. Hearthstone gives you plenty of chances to get the deck you want without having to spend a single dime, of course if you elect you can get there faster but doesnt guarantee you anything.
 
I've elected to uninstall it and play games that are more fun. Maybe I'm just the worst player in the world. Well, if so, it isn't doing a good job matching me up against the second worst player in the world since I just get stomped. I'd venture to say I'm not that awful either, as I seem to stomp the expert AIs and I've watched a fair bit online (which is what got me interested) so I have a good handle on the cards. For all that the "worthy opponents" it matched me against beat me 0-9, each one having various rare and legendary cards, until I said "fuck this" and left and uninstalled.
 
Sycraft said:
Ya, Hearthstone is officially the biggest bunch of pay-2-win BS I've seen in a long time. It's match making that "matches you against an opponent of equal skill" means "Puts your brand new deck composed of nothing but basic cards up against a guy with multiple golden legendaries. Are you SURE you wouldn't like to give us a bunch of money to get similar cards?"
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Sycraft said:
For all that the "worthy opponents" it matched me against beat me 0-9, each one having various rare and legendary cards, until I said "fuck this" and left and uninstalled.
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totally agree...its classic blizzard...the moment some guy rips out legendary ragnaros, I leave, yell at the screen and tell the bastard to go play ranked

its on my 'next to delete list' of games too...it was fun for awhile but not so much anymore

NEXT!
 
Play ranked then. They people with the uber decks will rank up and you won't have to deal with them.
 
I mean, because they have legendaries doesn't mean they win. You just have to actually learn how to play, and learn how to build a deck, and know what to craft with your cards. Players like Trump have made it to legend on nothing spent and just the 1 arena run.

That's at the extreme end of things. If you try get good at arena so that you can run it fairly consistently you can build up a good card stock in a reasonable amount of time. I've actually started dabling in other regions since we can region swap now, I might try to see how far I can get next season in the other regions on limited cards.
 
Well, I'm not willing to "learn to play" anymore than I have. If "learn to play" means "lose a whole bunch" then I'm not interested. I'm pretty used doing ok, or at least not incompetent, when I start a new game. It isn't like I jumped right in to this. I had watched about 20 hours of video of good players playing, read up on all the cards in the game, built a deck that was recommended online, and played 4ish hours of practice against the computer.

If that's not enough to be worth one win, then I'm not interested. I do not want a game that you have to spend years on to become any good. I'll go and play something fun instead, I have a lot of those :).
 
Sycraft said:
Well, I'm not willing to "learn to play" anymore than I have. If "learn to play" means "lose a whole bunch" then I'm not interested. I'm pretty used doing ok, or at least not incompetent, when I start a new game. It isn't like I jumped right in to this. I had watched about 20 hours of video of good players playing, read up on all the cards in the game, built a deck that was recommended online, and played 4ish hours of practice against the computer.

If that's not enough to be worth one win, then I'm not interested. I do not want a game that you have to spend years on to become any good. I'll go and play something fun instead, I have a lot of those :).
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Normal play mode is extremely hit or miss. I don't consider myself very good, just looked up a few premade free deck on hearthpwn and have kinda tweaked them eventually to something I like/think would be better, then hopped into it. Especially the last few days, I had a rogue deck I made last week that was doing decent. About 50% win rate maybe a little more, then I got a rogue/warrior quest yesterday, preceded to lose 5 games in a row before giving up playing until the next day. I swear I am the king of losing games by 1 turn.. So many games I'll be in the lead, have like 10-15 life advantage and end up losing somehow before I could finish them off next round.

Ranked is really a lot better, I really only play my mage deck in it, I think it's the most fun so far yet, rank 13 currently. I still only run into a few legendaries here and there, not many though. Usually have a wayy better win ratio in ranked.

Also, I've been pretty much only playing to finish whatever quests I have built up.Then use the gold for arena games. Even finishing with only 1 or 2 wins you usually only end up paying an extra 15-20 gold over just buying a pack and imo I think its more fun than regular play mode, even with shitty luck at card drafts.
 
Sycraft said:
I've elected to uninstall it and play games that are more fun. Maybe I'm just the worst player in the world. Well, if so, it isn't doing a good job matching me up against the second worst player in the world since I just get stomped. I'd venture to say I'm not that awful either, as I seem to stomp the expert AIs and I've watched a fair bit online (which is what got me interested) so I have a good handle on the cards. For all that the "worthy opponents" it matched me against beat me 0-9, each one having various rare and legendary cards, until I said "fuck this" and left and uninstalled.
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I thought the same thing, until i started playing ranked games. You start off at level 25 and gain rank from there. you get matched against people at or very close to your same rank. The only time I really get stomped is when the ladders reset. Then it takes a few days for the really good players to rank up past my skill level and I'm playing people on par with me again.
 
leezard said:
I thought the same thing, until i started playing ranked games. You start off at level 25 and gain rank from there. you get matched against people at or very close to your same rank. The only time I really get stomped is when the ladders reset. Then it takes a few days for the really good players to rank up past my skill level and I'm playing people on par with me again.
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Yea, I have seen Ranked play be more fair lol. Though I did move through 25 to 12 in a couple of hours. Also of note I only have at any time no more than 2 legionaries in my deck. The only good one I use in almost all my decks are Ragnaros and I seem to fair OK against the 6+ legendary warriors.
 
learn to play, read articles, guides, redics, learn to counter meta. if you want to take it seriously, if u dont, then who cares if u lose, play arena more. make some friends online, play matches with them, learn from each other. And it doesnt kill you to spend $20 and buy a small pack kit, you'll be happy.
 
I'm fucking done with this game. Just drafted the best deck I've ever drafted in arena. Only got one or two shit cards, rest were all good. I'm a fairly good player, usually can at least manage 6 wins if not more in arena. I went 0-3 on that fucking deck.

It's like I'm playing constructed decks in arena. Some guy had 2 timber wolves, 3 buzzards, a couple of those hyenas and like 4 of those unleash the hounds. (Of couse you can't draft that, but fuck me in arena? Fuck. Then after he got all those wolves a nice free sea giant. TIMES FUCKING 2)

I haven't spent a single cent on the game, but with gold and arena runs I've opened about 30 packs, haven't got a single legendary yet. I think I got one epic.. I can draft good decks, but my luck is just such shit that I'm constantly getting owned by bullshit combos that people somehow manage to get in arena drafts.
 
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I haven't spent a single cent on the game, but with gold and arena runs I've opened about 30 packs, haven't got a single legendary yet. I think I got one epic.. I can draft good decks, but my luck is just such shit that I'm constantly getting owned by bullshit combos that people somehow manage to get in arena drafts.
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I have a sneaking suspicion that the random number generator may not be so random and the amount of money you've given them may influence things other than just getting decks.
 
Hmm I've got Ragnaros, Thainos, Crush, Alex, Al akir and golden Cairn from boosters without spending any money so not really :D
 
jh24 said:
Hearthstone will get its first mini-expansion. Adventure Mode, singleplayer campaign/mode with different new area's/bosses, 30 new cards including 5 legendaries, etc.

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/13665269/beware-the-curse-of-naxxramas-4-11-2014
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I wish they would open up team/group battles, or fix some of the bugs instead. Like the armor bug thats STILL around. Which is why I mostly don't play except to do the 3 quests that get built up. There's no excuse for why damage still doesn't carry thru past armor into life sometimes. So many games have turned around because the opponent got saved overall from not taking an extra 3-10+ damage.
 
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