cageymaru
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Intel has already let known that Haswell 2011 is NOT compatible with Sandy Bridge-E/Ivy Bridge-E 2011.What's this LGA2011-3 business? Is it just getting my hopes up that there's a possible BIOS update that'll allow SB-E/IVB-E mobo's the ability to swap out chips? Assuming DDR4 support I'm guessing that's just a placeholder for the actual socket name.
Haswell-E beast that would feature 8 cores, faster clocks and 20 MB of L3 cache. Intel is aiming for an 55% IPC improvement over quad cores with their flagship Haswell-E processors
Therefore, Haswell-E will not fit on current Socket 2011 boards. That's why it becomes a dilemma of sorts-- Do you go with IVB-E now but are stuck on a dead end socket? Or, do you wait one year plus for Haswell-E?
The difference between IB-E and Haswell-E will be similar to the ~5% difference between IB and Haswell. Combine that with a new platform along with new memory and you're going to see a minor performance boost for around 2x the price. Complaints on the internet will be epic!
I'm in the same boat, and will most likely have a 4930K-based system before the end of the year.There is no dilema for me. I waited for HW already and after I seen what it do, I thought about getting quad channel, and durable socket.
So it's either Ivy-E, or 4670K. And this quarter.
The mediocrity of upcoming releases caused me to go ahead with Haswell. I will definitely stay with it at least until Skylake-E.
Then again, they *COULD* have given us 8-10 core SB-E CPUs over a year ago..
/endrant
I am sorta pissed that Intel is sitting back and riding the money train instead of giving us Haswell-E now..They clearly have the chips ready, as the process has been mature for some time..The X99 chipset is ready, and I know DDR4 hasn't been ramped up yet, but what is to stop them from releasing a chipset with DDR3 support now, and then DDR4 later?
Both AMD and Intel have been this in the past. With Intel, it was done with the P4 first being Rambus only, and then Intel relenting to pressure and releasing an SDRAM chipset..Then with the SD/DDR and then DDR1/2 3/4 changes..
Then again, they *COULD* have given us 8-10 core SB-E CPUs over a year ago..
/endrant
What's this LGA2011-3 business? Is it just getting my hopes up that there's a possible BIOS update that'll allow SB-E/IVB-E mobo's the ability to swap out chips? Assuming DDR4 support I'm guessing that's just a placeholder for the actual socket name.
8 cores is all you will get with Haswell-E, any more than that and intel risks damaging sales of its very profitable Xeon cpu's (which are rumoured to have upto 14 cores).
Oh and as for the why so late rants, - The i7-4xxx cpu's are tied into the launch dates of the 1p and 2p E5 xeon's.
Why all this whining? You can have your 12 core CPU anytime you want.
https://www.sabrepc.com/p-4202-inte...-2697-v2-27ghz-lga2011-server-cpu-retail.aspx
Oh wait, you want it for $100? Come back around 2030
If that CPU were unlocked, I'd buy a bunch of them...at least three of them.
The issue here is that there isn't a fully enabled, unlocked CPU available at ANY price. All I want is a fully enabled, fully unlocked, dual capable CPU with no features, cores or cache neutered. I don't care what Intel wants to charge for it...
Intel should have an early access program to allow enthusiasts to purchase their next gen platforms. This way, we get the cutting edge hardware we crave, and Intel gets feedback and valuable information regarding the hardware's issues, limits and how it behaves when flogged...
Maybe if they raised the price to $5000 or so for the unlocked 12 core 24 threaded workstation CPU to make sure they were not hurting server sales by releasing an unlocked server processor. Although that would be way out of my price range.
Maybe if they raised the price to $5000 or so for the unlocked 12 core 24 threaded workstation CPU to make sure they were not hurting server sales by releasing an unlocked server processor. Although that would be way out of my price range.
I wonder what the yields are on the top-end chips. They wouldn't want enthusiast demand to cut into their limited supply for professional customers.