This is not meant to start a flame war by fanboys. I want an honest answer as I have read so many different things conflicting each other It seems intel still has a slight edge in gaming by like 3-5% on a clock for clock basis as some said games are still better optimized for intel Core ringbus architecture even though AMD is even or slightly ahead clock for clock in single threaded and multithreaded raw compute power at same clock speed. Although some say intel still has a slightly better IPC at same clock speed, but the gap is almost nill when it comes to 8 core CPUs. Although the confusing thing is, it seems AMD 16 core 3950X is break even or even slightly ahead of intel's Core i9 10980XE 18 core CPU Despite haivng 2 less cores: https://www.forbes.com/sites/antony...-better-than-amds-ryzen-9-3950x/#4eea8f17405f And that is with 2 less cores!! ANd evne some bewnchmarks show it winning against intel's 28 core $3000 CPU which would have to mean single threaded performance is much better for AMD. https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd/ryzen-9-3950x-beats-intel-28-core-cpu How could that be if intel is even or still slightly ahead on Coffee Lake 8 core CPUs compared to Ryzen 8 core CPUs clock for clock? Is it that intels higher core counts are mesh topology which is inferior to AMD's current Zen 2 architecture and even intel's own ring bus topology for current geb apps? Obviously AMD wins on being able to stuff more cores into CPU easier and at least at almost break even performance IPC because of lower power consumption and easier to cool it with 7nm fabric vs intel's 14nm fabric Although intel Coffee Lake CPUs overlcok better while being stable as long as the cooling is up to par to deal with the more heat. What are everyone's thoughts on AMD seeming to win on 16 or more core CPUs vs intel's even higher core counts, but lose or be only even with intel on 8 core Zen 2 CPUs vs Intel' Coffee Lake 8 core CPUs?